AdExchanger Talks is an advertising and marketing technology podcast from AdExchanger, the leading voice in ad tech. Listen in as AdExchanger’s award-winning editorial team, led by Managing Editor Allison Schiff, interviews industry leaders and explores the issues and trends that matter to brand marketers, ad agencies, publishers, media companies and technology providers.
Tue, April 15, 2025
In 2017, Mediaocean CEO Bill Wise predicted the demise of supply-side platforms. The category survived, but he’s sticking to his theory that pureplay SSPs are a thing of the past. Plus : An update on Mediaocean’s $550 million Innovid acquisition and Wise’s counterpoint to recent criticisms of The Trade Desk.
Tue, April 08, 2025
AI isn’t something a marketer “does.” It’s not a singular action or task, and there is no AI easy button. And so AI researcher and consultant Cecilia Dones tries to “get underneath” the reasons behind why marketers want to integrate AI into their businesses.
Tue, April 01, 2025
To say that David Jones, CEO and founder of The Brandtech Group, is bullish on generative AI would be an understatement. “Every single facet of marketing can be done better, faster and cheaper using technology and AI,” Jones says. “I’d rather have a fast, efficient machine than a slow, grumpy creative with a big ego.” Tune in for more zingers.
Tue, March 25, 2025
As the newly appointed president of Horizon Media Holdings, Bob Lord is dubious that megamergers between holding companies are actually good for the client. “Bigger is not always better,” Lord says.
Tue, March 18, 2025
Microsoft ad sales vet Rob Wilk joined Yahoo last year to lead revenue for the company’s advertising business with one main goal in mind: to evangelize Yahoo’s owned-and-operated properties. Most advertisers just aren’t aware of the inventory Yahoo has to offer – and that’s on Yahoo.
Tue, March 11, 2025
Now that Teads and Outbrain are one, the vision, explained CEO David Kostman when the deal was first announced, is to become an “end-to-end, full-funnel platform for the open internet.” But what does that mean in plain English?
Tue, March 04, 2025
What does it take to serve mid-size brand clients; how is AI transforming media buying; and why – for the love of god – is measurement still so messed up? Mediastruction CEO and Founding Partner Marilois Snowman has a few thoughts.
Tue, February 25, 2025
For publishers, digital advertising is a lot like playing craps, says Aditude’s Justin Wohl. It’s all about tuning out the noise while placing safe bets that work for your monetization strategy.
Tue, February 18, 2025
According to CreativeX, ad creative is responsible for nearly half of sales lift, which is more than reach, recency and targeting combined. So why doesn’t creative get the credit it deserves? Until recently, says Anastasia Leng, CEO and founder of CreativeX, technology wasn’t advanced enough to measure creative decisions at scale.
Tue, February 11, 2025
Many measurement companies are promoting marketing mix modeling as an easy-to-use solution to overcome signal loss. But that couldn’t be further from the truth, says Maor Sadra, CEO and co-founder of incrementality measurement startup INCRMNTAL.
Tue, February 04, 2025
Agencies now have more breathing room to think carefully and be strategic about signal loss solutions, because signal loss isn’t just a third-party cookie thing, says Sisi Zhang, chief data and analytics officer at Razorfish. Specifically, she says, brands need to spend more time testing alternative identifiers.
Tue, January 28, 2025
It’s not easy competing for business with massive holding companies (which are only getting more massive ). But the Omnicom-IPG deal “also creates opportunities for the rest of us,” says Remy Stiles, North America CEO of programmatic agency Kepler.
Tue, January 21, 2025
What do toasters have in common with transparency and online advertising standards? Quite a lot, actually, says Ben Hovaness, chief media officer at OMD Worldwide. If you can trust a set of standards – and companies conform to them – the less transparency you need. It’s like when you plug in a new toaster. “You’re not worried that it's going to burst into flames and destroy your home,” Hovaness says.
Tue, January 14, 2025
Performance marketing can become a crutch for some brands, warns Duolingo CMO Manu Orssaud, especially app-based businesses that are under pressure to show rapid growth. That’s why Duolingo makes organic marketing a top priority.
Tue, January 07, 2025
Tune into the first episode of the year with guest Andrew Frank, VP and distinguished analyst at research firm Gartner. We cover a lot of ground, from the impact of multiple major Big Tech antitrust trials to practical AI use cases (minus the BS).
Tue, December 31, 2024
Scott McKinley shares his journey from professional cyclist and captain of the 1988 US Olympic Road Cycling Team to CEO and founder of data validation provider Truthset. The road was more linear than one might think.
Mon, December 23, 2024
Feels like we’ve been waiting for the convergence of ad tech and mar tech forever. But it’s finally starting to happen, and the time couldn’t be more ripe, says Heather Macaulay, president of product-focused consultancy MadTech.
Tue, December 17, 2024
What is incrementality testing? “I’ve been doing more interviews with journalists lately and realize I need a better answer to this question,” says Haus Head of Strategy Olivia Kory.
Tue, December 10, 2024
Jared Belsky, CEO and co-founder of indie digital agency Acadia, needs your help. He’d like someone to please explain to him why media arbitrage isn’t a form of stealing.
Tue, December 03, 2024
Personalization and customization are great, but when marketers go overboard with targeting, they don’t cast a wide enough net to attract new customers and foster growth, says JP Jansen, SVP of marketing and CMO for North America at Mars Pet Nutrition.
Tue, November 26, 2024
Digital Content Next CEO Jason Kint shares insights from inside the courtroom during closing arguments in US v. Google, ad tech antitrust edition. Plus: Kint noodles on potential remedies in the search antitrust case against Google.
Wed, November 20, 2024
When social media platform Nextdoor launched advertising in 2017, CEO Nirav Tolia declared it would be a $1 billion business by 2020. That didn’t happen. Nextdoor generated $66 million overall in Q3 of this year, and Tolia chides himself for his hyperbole. But Nextdoor has an ambitious plan for advertising growth.
Thu, November 14, 2024
Former Dentsu CEO Wendy Clark, current president of consulting group Consello, sees the renewed controversy around principal-based buying as a symptom of a more fundamental issue: the lack of open dialogue between brands and their agencies.
Mon, November 04, 2024
If the DOJ wins its ad tech antitrust case against Google, it shouldn’t force a breakup, says Arete Research’s Richard Kramer, who proposes this novel solution instead: Google should spin out its network business into a public interest corporation with no hidden fees.
Tue, October 29, 2024
Mike Ryan of Smarter Ecommerce helps advertisers get the most out of their Google Performance Max campaigns. U nderstanding what’s going on inside this walled garden black box product is now the most pressing concern for many retailers and ecommerce advertisers, he says.
Tue, October 22, 2024
As the former CMO of Sonos, Joy Howard’s job was to make people want to buy new electronics. Now, as the recently appointed CMO of Back Market – an online marketplace for refurbished electronics – it’s her job to convince them not to.
Tue, October 15, 2024
Having nipped at Meta’s and Google’s heels for years, Pinterest is finished with being the underdog. It’s been getting very “serious” about its investments in lower-funnel advertising products , says Pinterest CRO Bill Watkins.
Tue, October 08, 2024
Dotdash Meredith’s Lindsay Van Kirk says the cookie-based buying tools she helped develop in her early career at AppNexus placed too much value on unreliable third-party audiences. But contextual tools like DDM’s D/Cipher, which she now oversees, can build a better ad ecosystem for buyers and sellers.
Tue, October 01, 2024
Omar Tawakol is a serial entrepreneur. He sold two companies in five years, including BlueKai to Oracle in 2014. But he’s in no rush with his new virtual product placement startup Rembrand. He says he’s having too much fun. Plus : Meditating on the end of Oracle Advertising.
Tue, September 24, 2024
Covering Google’s ad tech antitrust trial in Virginia is surreal for anyone who’s been in ad tech as long as Ari Paparo. He knows most of the people on the stand.
Tue, September 17, 2024
If Adam Heimlich could travel back in time to alter the future of online advertising, he would go to Google’s acquisition of DoubleClick in 2007, but not necessarily to stop it.
Tue, September 10, 2024
Advanced audience targeting is perhaps the most significant change in TV ad buying structures, says Alison Levin, NBCUniversal’s president of advertising and partnerships, on this week’s episode of AdExchanger Talks.
Tue, September 03, 2024
It’s a misconception that Redditors categorically dislike advertising, says newly hired VP of Ad Product Management Jyoti Vaidee. In fact, 60% of Reddit users want brands to participate in communities, she says, so long as their interactions are relevant and respectful.
Tue, August 27, 2024
Have we finally reached peak retail media, or is the recent explosion of RMNs the sign of a healthy and thriving marketplace? “It’s the right question to be asking, especially at this time,” says Gopuff’s SVP of business, Daniel Folkman, who helped spearhead the company’s advertising business.
Tue, August 20, 2024
Serial ad tech entrepreneur Kamakshi Sivaramakrishnan founded two startups roughly a decade apart, both for a similar reason: making data available across the enterprise in a way that’s also respectful of the consumer.
Tue, August 13, 2024
Last month, Hyundai eliminated the chief marketing officer role and split the function in two: creative and performance. The move makes sense because two brains are better than one, says Angela Zepeda, Hyundai’s former CMO and now its chief creative officer. But there are critics to this approach.
Tue, August 06, 2024
There’s only so much you can do to measure earned media, says Najah Ayoub, CMO of Piece of Cake Moving & Storage. That’s why the brand invests so much in the customer experience. Plus: Piece of Cake’s hybrid MMM/MTA approach to attribution.
Tue, July 30, 2024
AI-powered systems should make the humans that use them smarter, says WPP CTO Stephan Pretorius. “It has to be people first, not technology first.” Plus: why “technology doesn’t destroy jobs, it destroys tasks.”
Tue, July 23, 2024
What does programmatic media have in common with toilet paper? A lot more than you might think, says Sherine Ebadi, managing director of forensic investigations at Kroll. It’s a question of quality (or the lack thereof).
Tue, July 16, 2024
With Judge Amit Mehta’s ruling expected this fall, Adam Epstein, co-CEO of adMarketplace, breaks down the DOJ’s search-focused antitrust case against Google. Plus: why Google’s Performance Max has some search advertisers hopping mad.
Tue, July 09, 2024
It’s time for advertisers to get more nuanced with their approach to brand safety, says Mia Libby, The Wall Street Journal’s SVP of enterprise. It’s okay to be cautious, but excluding all news from programmatic media plans isn’t the answer.
Tue, July 02, 2024
Once consumers are ready to travel, they’re often ready to spend on almost everything, from beauty and booze to electronics and streaming services. And that creates a unique opportunity for advertisers to reach a new audience with high intent, says Christine Maguire, global VP of commercial business at TripAdvisor.
Tue, June 25, 2024
It’s been almost one year since MediaMath went out of business. Two months later, Infillion acquired the assets out of bankruptcy. Now it’s time for the next phase, says Infillion CRO and CMO Laurel Rossi.
Tue, June 18, 2024
Shoppable TV ads may encourage sales, but they lack the measurement and performance benchmarks advertisers expect. Buyers must create their own benchmarks – and can only do so by actually testing these new ad units, including with their upfront budgets, says Mike Fisher, executive director of investment innovation at GroupM US.
Tue, June 11, 2024
It’s hard to set a strategy for AI adoption without getting a little hands-on experience first, says Betty Louie, a partner and general counsel at The Brandtech Group. You have to play around with the different tools before you even know where the guardrails are, she says.
Tue, June 04, 2024
If there’s one thing that makes advertising measurement consultant Andrew Covato roll his eyes and shake his head, it’s the endurance of last-click attribution. Last click may seem “simple” and “tidy,” Covato says, but it doesn’t reflect the full funnel.
Tue, May 28, 2024
Signal loss is real, but don’t write an elegy for data management platforms just yet, says Andy Monfried, CEO and founder of Lotame, which turned 18 this year. Also in this episode: Lotame’s reinvention of itself as a data collaboration platform.
Tue, May 21, 2024
With the rise of generative AI software and major changes to search platforms even in just the past year or two, SEO and SEM tactics are back. Everyone and their mother is trying to figure out how to make search work and what the new world of search marketing even looks like. Enter Navah Hopkins.
Tue, May 14, 2024
What is Google’s true motive in launching the Chrome Privacy Sandbox? An optimist might give Google credit for not dropping the hammer like Apple did. But it’s hard not to be a little cynical about Google’s goals, according to Samantha Jacobson, chief strategy officer at The Trade Desk.
Tue, May 07, 2024
Alternative TV currencies are ready for prime time from a technology standpoint. But media buyers aren’t quite there yet when it comes to adoption, says Josh Chasin, VideoAmp’s former chief measurability officer.
Wed, May 01, 2024
Roblox’s head of immersive media Ashley McCollum explains how the online gaming giant built its ad platform with demand for programmatic video in mind. And she previews Roblox’s ambitions to grow an ecommerce platform for real-world purchases. <div class= "p-message_input__input_container_unstyled
Tue, April 23, 2024
Quad Media President Joshua Lowcock asks all ad tech partners for log files as a matter of course. And if a company isn’t willing to hand them over, that’s a sign it’s probably hiding something. Plus: The fallacy of scale and pondering the true role of a third-party verification partner.
Tue, April 16, 2024
Cookie deprecation and the reduced availability of mobile ad IDs is rocking the ad tech ecosystem. But signal loss is also an opportunity for a younger company to build new privacy-preserving targeting technology and grab market share, according to Remco Westermann, CEO of Verve Group’s parent company, MGI.
Tue, April 09, 2024
Jeromy Sonne only began bootstrapping his ad optimization and analytics startup Daypart.AI in 2023, having missed the heady days of low interest rates and easy money. Still, there’s gold in them thar hills for a programmatic startup that isn’t exactly a DSP, isn’t built on cookie-based data and is native to cloud-based advertising.
Tue, April 02, 2024
If Alex Schultz, Meta’s CMO and VP of analytics, had his way, the term “performance marketing” would be retired. There isn’t a line [between] brand and performance,” he says. “It all performs.”
Tue, March 26, 2024
It’s been more than a year since Bloomberg stopped running third-party programmatic display ads on its website – and it was the right move, says Christine Cook, Bloomberg Media’s global CRO.
Tue, March 19, 2024
Businesses will always need to find a compromise between privacy and utility, but it’s more than possible to strike a healthy balance, says Graham Mudd, president and chief product officer at privacy startup Anonym.
Tue, March 12, 2024
It’s not that enterprise analytics is broken. The bigger issue, says Obele Brown-West, president of data intelligence platform Tracer, is that enterprise analytics was never all that functional to begin with.
Tue, March 05, 2024
Advertisers expect direct proof of performance from their streaming ad buys. But even though most people don’t shop via their TV screens (yet), new ad formats can still help brands boost consideration, says MediaLink Managing Director Mark Wagman.
Tue, February 27, 2024
If you’re an ad tech or martech vendor thinking about pitching a marketer, then Kamal Bhandal, global VP of brand and consumer experience at Invisalign, has some important advice for you.
Wed, February 21, 2024
“There is no scale in multicultural media.” Lashawnda Goffin, CEO of Colossus SSP, has heard that statement many times – and it simply isn’t true. Yet the misperception persists, in part because of problematic programmatic practices.
Tue, February 13, 2024
Do people hate ads? No, according to Vegard Johnsen, who joined eyeo as chief product officer last summer after nearly a decade at Google. What people don’t like, he says, is having no real choice over what they see and not being treated with respect.
Tue, February 06, 2024
Lots of marketers are playing around with generative AI. But for Ally Financial, generative AI is a serious investment, not a game or a gimmick, says CMO Andrea Brimmer.
Tue, January 30, 2024
Over the summer, Gartner placed generative AI at the peak of inflated expectations on its hype cycle covering emerging technologies . Sounds about right. But at the same time, marketers are getting more serious about AI adoption, says Abhay Parasnis, CEO and founder of Typeface.ai.
Wed, January 24, 2024
Rather than a competitor to data clean rooms, Amazon Web Services – which has a data clean room offering of its own – considers itself to be a facilitator of ad tech companies, says Adam Solomon, global head of biz dev and go-to-market for AWS Clean Rooms. Guess there are no competitors in ad tech, only frenemies.
Tue, January 16, 2024
Meet Doceree, a programmatic health care marketing platform with a twist. Rather than allowing brands to target patients on the open web, Doceree has a specialized DSP for targeting doctors with secure messages on physician-only platforms, says CEO Harshit Jain.
Tue, January 09, 2024
Reaching a scaled audience is important for publishers, but scale at all costs is just a race to the bottom in disguise. When publishers have a deep and direct relationship with their readers, advertisers see stronger performance, says Semafor CRO Rachel Oppenheim.
Tue, January 02, 2024
Ad revenue in the US is set to grow in 2024. So pour one out for 2023 – and try not to make the same mistake as last year. Despite a more-than-decent ad market in 2023, media executives nearly manifested a recession out of fear that one was coming, according to professional advertising prognosticator Brian Wieser.
Tue, December 19, 2023
Google’s Performance Max and Meta’s Advantage+ often get tossed into the same bucket, but they’re different animals. And despite certain benefits, advertisers aren’t in love with all that these two have to offer, says Nii Ahene, chief strategy officer at Tinuiti, on this week’s episode of AdExchanger Talks (our last of 2023!).
Tue, December 12, 2023
The Media Rating Council has the same goals of promoting fair media measurement as it did when it formed in the ’60s. But it has had to polish its methodology to keep pace with change in the TV measurement space, says Ron Pinelli, the organization's SVP of digital research and standards.
Tue, December 05, 2023
As TikTok’s global head of marketing science, it’s Jorge Ruiz’s job to prove that ads on the platform can drive results. But marketing measurement is as much an art as it is a science. Also in this episode : self-attribution, the rise (again) of MMM and how TikTok managed to roll with the ATT punches.
Tue, November 28, 2023
Just because a channel isn’t where a final transaction happens doesn’t mean it’s not a performance channel. Connected TV is the perfect example, says Brian Mandelbaum, CEO of commerce data platform Attain.
Tue, November 21, 2023
It’s not that brands don’t care about supporting the news and good journalism. But an overreliance on keyword blocklists has made it seem that way, says Zefr CEO Rich Raddon on this week’s episode of AdExchanger Talks.
Tue, November 14, 2023
Google Analytics dominates the analytics market – but analytics isn’t a zero-sum game, says Ben Young, CEO of insights and measurement startup Nudge. Also: The important of measuring attention and finding "value at the margins."
Tue, November 07, 2023
Local advertisers are spending more on social media platforms today than three years ago, despite being unconvinced social media is the best place to reach their customers. What gives? Corey Elliott, Borell's EVP of local marketing intelligence, explains the story behind the numbers.
Tue, October 31, 2023
State Farm has spent tens of billions of dollars on TV advertising and brand marketing. But programmatic media buying also has a big role to play in helping nurture leads, says Alyson Griffin, State Farm’s head of marketing.
Tue, October 24, 2023
The strategy behind agency holding company reorgs makes sense: consolidation of related assets under one roof. But simply merging creative agencies doesn’t solve the bigger client need, which is bringing creative and media closer together, says Jellyfish CEO Nick Emery.
Tue, October 17, 2023
Advertisers that shun legit news sites for fear of blowback from consumers should think twice – people are smarter than they think, says Vanessa Otero, CEO of Ad Fontes Media, a startup that rates the news for bias and reliability.
Tue, October 10, 2023
Despite good intentions, the ad industry still has a misconception that Black-owned media can’t scale, says Justin Barton, SVP of digital strategy and partnerships at Black Enterprise.
Tue, October 03, 2023
Klarna is best known as a BNPL service. But don’t be surprised if you see the Swedish payments company eventually launch its own retail media network, says CMO David Sandstrom.
Tue, September 26, 2023
Is the programmatic advertising industry in a rut? Maybe just call it a midlife crisis, says JiYoung Kim, president for North America at GroupM Nexus, because there are bright spots – namely, retail media.
Tue, September 19, 2023
At The New York Times, paying subscribers come first – an approach that works on advertising side, too. Hear from newly appointed Chief Advertising Officer Joy Robins, who believes that when media has gone astray, it’s because publications didn’t put the reader at the center of their decision.
Tue, September 12, 2023
Super League Gaming CEO Ann Hand shares lessons learned from building in-game ad experiences and insights into the developing in-game ecommerce market. Also : Is metaverse marketing truly dead?
Tue, September 05, 2023
Looking for unvarnished, sharp views on transparency, the lack thereof, defining ad quality and the industry’s new obsession with made-for-advertising websites? Then this is the episode for you, with guest Tom Triscari, CEO and founder of programmatic advisory firm Lemonade Projects.
Tue, August 22, 2023
Armed with Ads.txt and Sellers.json files, Nandini Jammi, co-founder of Check My Ads Institute, spends her days exposing how money flows through the twisted pipes of the programmatic supply chain. Her goal? To defund disinformation, toxic content and hate online.
Tue, August 15, 2023
CTV’s over-frequency problem is as real as the pressure streaming services are under to grow their average revenue per user. But you don’t have to sacrifice one to achieve the other, says Jamie Power, Disney’s SVP of addressable sales.
Tue, August 08, 2023
The ad industry tends to get lost in its own weeds. (Endless consternation about the end of third-party cookies, anyone?) But the concept of privacy encompasses much more, from dealing with misinformation to promoting competition, says Jules Polonetsky, CEO of the Future of Privacy Forum.
Tue, August 01, 2023
For programmatic podcast advertising to really take off, buyers want the same assurances they’re used to on other channels, including brand safety controls and effective targeting. It’s a process, says Lizzie Widhelm, SVP of ad monetization at SiriusXM-owned SXM Media.
Tue, July 25, 2023
It’s happening folks. The Chrome Privacy Sandbox is going live, third-party cookies will be phased out on Chrome by the end of next year – and don’t expect any further deadline extensions, says Victor Wong, senior director of product for all things Privacy Sandbox.
Tue, July 18, 2023
When will Meta monetize Threads, its new text-based app? Too soon to say, according to Alvin Bowles, Meta’s new sales leader. But if past behavior is the best indicator of future performance, it’s only a matter of time (and user engagement).
Tue, July 11, 2023
Taboola CEO Adam Singolda bristles at the terms “clickbait” and “chumbox.” Quality is subjective, he says. Also : Inside Taboola’s exclusive 30-year native advertising sales deal with Yahoo.
Tue, June 27, 2023
One-fifth of the US population is Hispanic. But Spanish speakers are sorely underrepresented in measurement ratings, so advertisers miss out on audience buying opportunities, says TelevisaUnivision’s Dan Aversano. To bridge that gap, media companies must be more comfortable with privacy-safe data sharing.
Tue, June 20, 2023
Data privacy law is becoming more technically complex, and enforcers are getting increasingly savvy about how online tracking technology works. That’s why being a privacy lawyer today means diving into the technical details, says Daniel Rosenzweig, a senior associate at Norton Rose Fulbright.
Tue, June 13, 2023
The cost of customer acquisition (CAC) is about more than what a brand pays to get someone to visit a website or download an app. Advertisers also need to bake engagement and retention into their CAC, says Braze CEO Bill Magnuson.
Tue, June 06, 2023
There’s a prevailing narrative that supply-side platforms are releasing tools to cut out demand-side platforms in a desperate attempt to differentiate. But “it’s much more nuanced than that,” says Magnite CRO Sean Buckley.
Wed, May 31, 2023
Amazon accounts for more than 40% of retail media’s multibillion-dollar total addressable market. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a big opportunity to scale retailer audiences across the open internet, says Criteo CEO Megan Clarken.
Tue, May 23, 2023
The end of third-party cookies isn’t “Armageddon for marketers,” says Wendi Dunlap, Mediahub’s newly appointed EVP of business intelligence and audience science. It’s an opportunity to test, learn and do better.
Tue, May 16, 2023
Why is there so much misinformation circulating online? Because, unfortunately, “it’s a great business,” says L. Gordon Crovitz, co-founder of NewsGuard, which estimates that advertisers are funneling as much as $2.6 billion a year programmatically to misinformation websites.
Tue, May 09, 2023
Ad tech and cloud tech are converging; there’s no doubt about that. But how much of ad tech will get eaten by cloud platforms? That’s harder to answer, says Myles Younger, head of innovation and insights at U of Digital.
Tue, May 02, 2023
Raashee Gupta Erry spent most of her career in the digital marketing industry at agencies and brands, including Essence and Volkswagen US. Then she took a job explaining ad tech to the Federal Trade Commission. “There’s a wind of change happening,” Gupta says.
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