Relentless Rejects
Being an "into the job" firefighter means you are a relentless student of the craft, on a mission to fulfill your calling to serve others. You reject mediocrity and the idea of being an average firefighter. The term minimum standards is not in your vocabulary and you show up every day to be better than the day before. When the motivation runs out or the critics seem to keep pulling you down, you remember one thing... Honor Over Everything.
S1 E50 · Mon, April 21, 2025
Episode 50: FDIC Aftermath! (Solo episode)
In this milestone episode, Preston reflects on their first experience at the FDIC conference, sharing insights on the importance of community, networking, and personal growth within the fire service. The conversation emphasizes the value of long-term thinking in leadership and the significance of building relationships at such events. Preston also provides practical tips for first-time attendees, highlighting the overwhelming yet energizing atmosphere of FDIC and the innovations showcased at the conference. In this episode, the host reflects on experiences from the FDIC conference, discussing the fitness levels of firefighters, the importance of traditions and brotherhood in the fire service, and the challenges of recruitment and retention. The conversation emphasizes the need for strong leadership and the value of attending conferences for professional development and community building.
S1 E49 · Mon, April 14, 2025
Episode 49: Black Hat Behavior Featuring Josh Watt
In this episode, Preston and Josh discuss the importance of mental health resources for first responders, emphasizing the need for support systems within families and the fire service. They explore the challenges of balancing work and family life, coping mechanisms, and the impact of mental health on firefighters. The conversation also highlights the significance of mentorship and informal leadership, advocating for a supportive firehouse culture that encourages open discussions about mental health. In this conversation, J. Watt discusses the significance of self-motivation in the fire service, the balance between being respected and liked as a leader, and the importance of fostering a culture of self-starting among firefighters. He emphasizes the need for community over branding, the impact of passionate teaching, and the responsibility of firefighters to do the right thing for their crews and the civilians they serve.
S1 E2 · Sat, April 05, 2025
Str8 UP Episode 2: "The Warrior Mindset in Firefighting" With John Chambliss
In this episode of the Straight Up Podcast, hosts Relentless Rejects and John Chambliss discuss the importance of a warrior mindset in the fire service, the impact of leadership on morale, and the challenges of promotions based on testing rather than experience. They emphasize the need for strong support from administration and the value of audience-driven content in their podcast. The conversation also touches on the significance of social media in shaping perceptions within the fire community. In this conversation, John and Relentless Rejects discuss the critical importance of maintaining high standards within the fire service, emphasizing accountability, training, and mentorship. They explore the need for a disciplined approach to emergency response, the significance of being prepared and familiar with gear, and the value of personal growth through challenges. The dialogue highlights the necessity of fostering a culture of support and motivation among firefighters to ensure safety and efficiency on the job.
S1 E47 · Fri, April 04, 2025
Episode 48: "Passing the torch, 72 Years of Firefighting Wisdom" featuring Dylan Clark and Edward "Pop Pop' Porter
This conversation features a heartfelt interview between Dylan Clark and his grandfather, Edward Porter, who has dedicated 72 years to public service, including significant time in the fire service. They discuss the evolution of firefighting, memorable experiences, and the importance of legacy in the fire service. Dylan shares his journey and the influence of his grandfather on his career, while Ed reflects on his early days in firefighting and law enforcement. The conversation highlights the challenges and changes in the fire service over the decades, as well as the personal stories that shape their experiences. In this engaging conversation, Preston and Dylan Clark explore the multifaceted aspects of leadership, respect, professionalism, and mental health within the fire service. They discuss the evolution of leadership styles across generations, the importance of earning respect through actions and appearance, and the critical need for mental health awareness among first responders. Dylan shares personal experiences and lessons learned from his extensive career, emphasizing the significance of training, taking action, and maintaining professionalism. The dialogue culminates in a heartfelt reflection on the legacy of firefighting and the importance of passing on knowledge to future generations.
S1 E47 · Tue, March 11, 2025
Episode 47: Staying True to Yourself featuring Eric Wheaton
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, Preston and Sean engage in a deep conversation with Chief Eric Wheaton about various aspects of firefighting, family dynamics, and personal growth. They discuss the importance of mental health resources for first responders, the challenges of balancing family life with a demanding career, and the generational differences in how firefighters share their experiences. Chief Wheaton emphasizes the significance of raising resilient children, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, and the value of being comfortable with discomfort. The conversation also touches on the philosophy of chasing excellence over promotions, the role of social media in recruitment, and the importance of building a strong truck culture within fire departments. In this conversation, Eric Wheaton shares his experiences and insights from his firefighting career, discussing the importance of teamwork, effective tactics, and the value of mentorship. He recounts real-life rescue stories that highlight the unpredictability of fire alarms and the necessity of being prepared for any situation. Eric also addresses the challenges of imposter syndrome and the significance of staying true to oneself in the fire service. He reflects on his involvement with ULFSRI, the creation of the Book of Mentors, and his aspirations for life after retirement, emphasizing the importance of family and personal fulfillment. Link to the fundraiser from podcast. If you’re willing and able! https://www.theyardfoundation.org/mayday/laramies-hero-help-dylan-schilt-overcome-his-injuries?fbclid=IwY2xjawIzMrVleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHYasccvnuHkbusj6vx4C3hKSRWYW36n3gG1ZCXpSalwy0RhozIKMH6crMA_aem_6FHdCxyX5q77dBNdTClnvg
S1 E46 · Thu, February 20, 2025
Episode 46: The Heart of Firefighting: Family and Mentorship, featuring Sean Dorobiala
Summary In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host and firefighter enthusiast Preston Lyons speaks with Sean Dorobiala, a fellow firefighter from Colorado. They discuss the importance of family support in the demanding fire service, Sean's unique path to becoming a firefighter, the significance of mentorship in personal and professional growth, and the vital role of camaraderie and culture within firehouses. The conversation highlights the challenges and rewards of balancing work and family life, the impact of mentors like Rob Fisher, and the necessity of fostering a supportive and engaging environment in the fire service. In this conversation, Dorbs and Preston delve into the significance of firehouse culture, emphasizing the importance of family dynamics and mental health within the fire service. They discuss the challenges faced by roving firefighters and the impact of consistent crew relationships on mental well-being. The conversation also highlights the role of the F.O.O.L.S. organization in fostering a supportive community for firefighters. Dorbs shares his passion for teaching and mentorship, stressing the need for a commitment to learning and the importance of aggressive firefighting tactics. They conclude by discussing the value of attending conferences for networking and professional growth. In this engaging conversation, Dorbs and Preston explore the significance of conferences in the fire service, the importance of personal development, and the influence of passionate leaders. They discuss the dangers of modern fires, the need for continuous learning, and the value of investing in oneself. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of community, mentorship, and the unwavering commitment to the fire service oath.
S2 E1 · Fri, February 07, 2025
Str8 Talk Episode 1 featuring John Chambliss
In this episode, Preston discusses the critical importance of mental health in the fire service, emphasizing the need for real conversations, overcoming failure, and building a supportive culture with John Chambliss from 48 STR8 Supplements. They explore the impact of tragedy on brotherhood, the difference between motivation and discipline, and the significance of creating a safe environment for firefighters. The conversation highlights the necessity of building relationships and community within the firehouse to enhance mental well-being and performance. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the importance of pride in the fire service, the impact of criticism, and the need for effective training for the next generation of firefighters. They emphasize the significance of real talk with leadership, transparency, and the necessity of self-care and mental health awareness. The discussion also highlights the importance of building a supportive culture within the fire service to foster growth and motivation among firefighters.
S1 E45 · Tue, January 28, 2025
Episode 45: The Non-Traditional Truck Company featuring Captain Arthur Ashley from Street Smart Tactics
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, Captain Arthur Ashley shares his extensive experience in the fire service, discussing the importance of mental health resources for first responders, the significance of family, and the transition into retirement. He emphasizes the need for a strong mindset and training in firefighting, the critical role of leadership and company officers, and the unique responsibilities of truck companies. The conversation also touches on the importance of confidence versus cockiness in the field and the value of teaching and mentorship in shaping the next generation of firefighters. In this conversation, Arthur Ashley shares his insights on the realities of firefighting, the importance of mentorship, and the need for effective training. He discusses the risks associated with the job, the significance of understanding time and opportunity in emergency situations, and the concept of a non-traditional truck company. Arthur emphasizes the importance of community, accountability, and mental health awareness within the fire service, encouraging firefighters to seek help and continuously improve their skills.
S1 E43 · Fri, January 17, 2025
Episode 44: Rising from the Ashes: The Journey of Jeremy Sanders
In this episode, Jeremy Sanders discusses his journey with Crew 1st Culture, emphasizing the importance of family, mentorship, and building a supportive tribe. He shares personal experiences of vulnerability, resilience, and the challenges he faced in the fire service, including a significant demotion. Jeremy reflects on the concept of the Phoenix, symbolizing rebirth and growth through adversity, and encourages listeners to embrace their stories and support one another.
S1 E43 · Fri, January 10, 2025
Episode 43: The Relentless Fire Wife, featuring Kellie Lyons
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host and firefighter Preston Lyons interviews his wife, Kellie Lyons, about their journey together, the challenges of being married to a firefighter, and the importance of communication and balance. They discuss Kellie's career as a Physician Assistant, the impact of Preston's job on their family life, and the mental health challenges that come with the profession. The conversation emphasizes the need for understanding and support between partners, especially in high-stress careers like firefighting and healthcare. This conversation delves into the complexities of mental health, work culture, and personal fulfillment within the firefighting profession. The speakers share their experiences with saying no, navigating toxic environments, and the importance of community and networking outside their department. They also discuss the challenges of balancing work and family life, particularly during the pregnancy and NICU experience of their child, highlighting the emotional and physical toll of their professions. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the complexities of navigating parenthood, particularly through the lens of their NICU experience. They discuss the importance of support systems, the evolution of personal identities as parents, and the challenges of balancing career aspirations with family responsibilities. The conversation emphasizes the need for open communication, understanding of mental health issues, and the unique dynamics faced by spouses of firefighters. Ultimately, they highlight the significance of partnership and mutual support in overcoming life's challenges together.
S1 E42 · Tue, December 31, 2024
Episode 42: "New Levels, New Devils"
Summary In this conversation, Preston reflects on the year 2024, discussing personal growth, the importance of learning from mistakes, and the evolution of the fire service. He emphasizes the significance of facing criticism, setting goals for 2025, and building a supportive community. The discussion highlights the challenges firefighters face and the need for continuous improvement and resilience in their careers.
S1 E41 · Wed, December 18, 2024
Episode 41: The Brotherhood of Firefighters: More Than Just a Job. Featuring Brian McRee
In this episode of the Rejects Podcast, Preston interviews Brian McRee, a firefighter from a combination department in Georgia. They discuss Brian's journey from the military to the fire service, the importance of brotherhood and training, and the impact of personal loss on his perspective of firefighting. Brian shares his experiences with accountability in the fire service, the need for aggressive training, and the importance of building traditions in a young department. The conversation emphasizes the need for firefighters to prioritize public safety over personal safety and to hold each other accountable for their actions. In this conversation, Preston and Brian discuss the evolution of firefighter training, emphasizing the importance of realistic scenarios and hands-on experiences. They explore the significance of brotherhood within the fire service, highlighting how it can be fostered through shared experiences and mentorship. Brian shares insights into his department's growth and aspirations, aiming for a stronger, more capable team. The discussion also touches on the challenges faced by new generations in maintaining the brotherhood and the calling of the fire service.
S1 E40 · Wed, December 11, 2024
Episode 40: "Quit hiding behind that mask" featuring the Unmasked Firemen
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston engages in a dynamic conversation with the Unmasked Firemen, a group of passionate firefighters from Atlanta. They discuss their journeys into the fire service, the importance of fitness and accountability, and the mission behind their platform aimed at inspiring younger firefighters. The conversation highlights the challenges of overcoming imposter syndrome, the significance of a supportive community, and the need for honesty and transparency in the fire service culture. In this conversation, the hosts discuss the importance of fitness culture within the fire service, emphasizing the need for leading by example and fostering a strong firehouse culture. They explore the role of leadership in creating a supportive environment, the distinction between training and working out, and the value of embracing failure as a learning opportunity. The discussion also touches on the significance of the Smoke Diver program and the evolution of their platform, Unmasked Firemen, highlighting the importance of transparency and community engagement.
S1 E39 · Wed, December 04, 2024
Episode 39: "Craftsmanship is not a crime!" Featuring Kevin Housley from FF Craftsmanship
In this episode, Preston and Captain Kevin Housley discuss the importance of family, relationships, and mental health in the firefighting profession. Kevin shares his journey into firefighting, emphasizing the significance of human performance psychology and resilience. They explore proactive steps firefighters can take to foster a healthy work environment and the role of training and teaching in personal and professional growth. The conversation highlights the need for a cultural shift in the fire service to prioritize mental health and well-being. In this conversation, Kevin and Preston explore the importance of humor in training, the evolution of coaching styles, and the significance of creating a culture of continuous learning within the fire service. They discuss the role of human performance psychology in enhancing firefighter effectiveness and the need for instructors to engage with their students meaningfully. The conversation also touches on the challenges of navigating holiday stress and the importance of mental health awareness in emergency services. Kevin shares insights from his experiences and the development of the Firefighter Craftsmanship platform, emphasizing the need for ongoing education and support in the field.
S1 E38 · Wed, November 27, 2024
Episode 38: "Forgiveness and Grace for the fire service" featuring Matt Ballard from Free Burn 2023
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston speaks with Matt Ballard, a seasoned paramedic and founder of Freeburn 2023. They delve into Matt's journey through the fire service, his struggles with mental health, and the importance of peer support and community resources. Matt shares his experiences with trauma, the stigma surrounding mental health in first responders, and the transformative power of EMDR therapy. The conversation emphasizes the need for open dialogue, understanding, and support among first responders to combat the rising rates of suicide and mental health issues in the field.
S1 E37 · Wed, November 20, 2024
Episode 37: The After Action Report: Overcoming challenges as an acting/out-of-class officer
In this conversation, Preston discusses the challenges faced by acting officers in the fire service, particularly when working in a culture that does not align with their personal standards and motivations. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining personal standards, leading by example, and finding ways to motivate others in a crew that may not share the same drive. The conversation highlights the need for resilience and the continuous pursuit of personal and professional growth, even in challenging environments. #firefighterpodcast #firefighter #leadershipdevelopment #personaldevelopment
S1 E36 · Wed, November 13, 2024
Episode 36: Transforming Pain into Purpose, featuring Steve (Stewie) Stawecki
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston engages with guest Stewie Stawecki, discussing their personal journeys in the fire service, the importance of training, accountability, and the impact of family support. They reflect on the evolution of the fire service post-9/11, the significance of mastering the basics, and the value of networking through conferences. Stewie shares his experiences, lessons learned from real-life scenarios, and how he transformed challenges into opportunities for growth and mentorship. In this engaging conversation, Stewie and Preston explore the evolution of learning in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of networking, mentorship, and adapting techniques. They discuss funding opportunities for training in Michigan, the significance of building relationships within the community, and the impact of influential figures in the fire service. The dialogue highlights the need for open-mindedness and passion for the job, encouraging firefighters to embrace their roles and support one another.
S1 E35 · Wed, November 06, 2024
Episode 35: The Heart of Firefighting: Family and Support, featuring Michael Ramirez
This conversation with Preston and Michael Ramirez delves into the experiences and challenges faced by firefighters, emphasizing the importance of community, support, and mental health. The speakers share personal anecdotes, discuss career paths, and reflect on the VFAMM, devotionals, and 75 Hard. They highlight the significance of training, networking, and personal growth within the profession, ultimately fostering a sense of camaraderie and shared understanding among firefighters.
S1 E34 · Wed, October 30, 2024
Episode 34: Creating a Culture of Accountability featuring Noah Katz from Priority Fire Training
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston interviews Noah Katz, a captain at Engine Company 15 in Phoenix and co-founder of Priority Fire Training. The conversation explores the importance of family in the fire service, the challenges of balancing work and personal life, and the mission-driven mindset that fuels success in both areas. Noah shares insights on creating a supportive firehouse culture, the impact of community events like the Jesse Castillo conference, and the philosophy behind the 'No Good Dudes' mantra, emphasizing performance and accountability over mere camaraderie. In this conversation, Noah Katz discusses the importance of building a culture of belief within the fire service, emphasizing the need for setting clear expectations and measurable objectives. He highlights the significance of creating a supportive environment where team members can thrive and learn from each other. The discussion also touches on the challenges of navigating the fear of failure and the importance of understanding the mission. Noah shares his personal journey of learning to enjoy the process rather than just focusing on the destination, and he concludes with insights on customer service in the fire department. In this conversation, Noah Katz shares his unique perspective on customer service within the fire department, emphasizing the importance of meeting both internal and external expectations. He discusses the significance of setting high-performance standards and the necessity of training under realistic conditions to prepare for real-world scenarios. The dialogue also explores the balance between task-oriented training and skill development, advocating for a culture of continuous improvement and high expectations in the fire service.
S1 E33 · Thu, October 24, 2024
Episode 33: Step into the Forge, featuring Zach Menden
In this episode, Preston and Zach Menden discuss the importance of family in the context of fitness and personal growth. Zach shares his journey from powerlifting to incorporating his children into his fitness routine, emphasizing the need to prioritize family while maintaining personal health. They explore how to tailor fitness programs for firefighters and the significance of tracking progress in training. The conversation highlights the balance between personal goals and family responsibilities, showcasing how fitness can be a family affair. In this conversation, Zach Menden discusses his journey in the fire service, the importance of tailored fitness programs for firefighters, and the critical need for mental health awareness and support within the profession. He shares personal experiences, including becoming an interim fire chief at a young age and the challenges of dealing with trauma and suicide in the line of duty. The discussion emphasizes the significance of vulnerability, support systems, and proactive mental health practices for firefighters. In this conversation, Preston and Zach Menden delve into the critical aspects of mental health, particularly within the firefighting community. They discuss the importance of recognizing subtle signs of distress, the necessity of open communication, and the role of physical fitness in maintaining mental well-being. Zach shares his personal journey of healing, emphasizing the significance of vulnerability and the impact of journaling on emotional intelligence. The discussion also touches on Zach's rebranding efforts to foster community connection and his 'Keep Pushing Challenge' aimed at raising awareness about mental health struggles. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for support, understanding, and proactive measures in addressing mental health issues.
S1 E32 · Fri, October 18, 2024
Episode 32: Balancing Legacy, Preston Lyons FFN Article Review
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects Podcast, Preston discusses the challenges of balancing a career in firefighting with family responsibilities. He shares personal experiences and insights on the importance of communication with family, the struggle for work-life balance, and the significance of establishing a legacy. The conversation emphasizes the need for firefighters to prioritize their families while also pursuing their passion for the fire service, ultimately advocating for a holistic approach to personal and professional life.
S1 E31 · Fri, October 11, 2024
Episode 31: Firehouse Vigilance: A Journey of Growth featuring Corley Moore
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston interviews Chief Corley Moore, discussing the importance of prioritizing family in the firefighting profession, the challenges of maintaining relationships, and the journey of personal growth. They delve into the themes of work-life balance, the impact of supportive partnerships, and overcoming imposter syndrome in the fire service. Chief Moore shares insights from his experiences and emphasizes the significance of mindset and preparation in both personal and professional realms. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the themes of mastery in leadership, the importance of self-reflection, and the dynamics of organizational culture. They discuss the concept of 'co-classity'—the clarity of self-perception—and how it impacts personal growth and effectiveness. The dialogue also touches on the significance of constructive feedback and the creation of the Firehouse Vigilance community, emphasizing the value of connection and shared experiences among firefighters. In this conversation, Corley shares his journey of self-discovery and transformation, emphasizing the importance of learning from experiences, the art of engaging presentations, and the significance of clarity in achieving goals. He discusses the value of networking and the challenges posed by critics and haters, ultimately highlighting the rewards of putting oneself out there and the necessity of consistency over intensity in personal and professional growth. In this conversation, Corley and Preston explore various themes related to the fire service, including the importance of psychological safety, the impact of stress on firefighters, and the role of mentorship in shaping careers. They also discuss Corley's journey with Firehouse Vigilance, his love for fiction and nonfiction literature, and his aspirations for the future of the podcast. The conversation emphasizes the ongoing fight against complacency and the significance of community and support in the fire service.
S1 E30 · Thu, October 03, 2024
Episode 30: Leadership through Generations featuring Rob Fisher
In this episode, Preston interviews retired battalion chief Rob Fisher, who shares his experiences in the fire service, the challenges of retirement, and the importance of maintaining a work-life balance. They discuss the implementation of truck company operations in suburban settings, the significance of leadership and mentorship, and the evolving nature of the fire service. Rob emphasizes the need for curiosity and good decision-making in leadership roles, as well as the value of informal mentorship in personal and professional growth.
S1 E29 · Fri, September 27, 2024
Episode 29: Mindset Matters: The Key to Firefighting Success featuring Rob Ramirez
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects Podcast, Preston interviews Rob Ramirez, a seasoned firefighter and rescue team manager for FEMA. They discuss Rob's journey in the fire service, the challenges of balancing work and personal life, and the importance of experience and data in firefighting. Rob shares insights on imposter syndrome, the significance of relatability in teaching, and effective training methods. The conversation emphasizes the need for continuous learning and growth in the fire service, as well as the importance of understanding and respecting the experiences of others in the field. In this conversation, Rob Ramirez discusses his unique approach to firefighter training, emphasizing the importance of mindset, adaptability, and practical skills over rigid structures. He shares insights from his experiences, including the creation of Mayday Mindset Training, which focuses on preparing firefighters for real-life scenarios. The discussion also touches on overcoming mental barriers in training, the critical role of Rapid Intervention Teams (RIT), and the future of firefighter education.
S1 E28 · Wed, September 25, 2024
Episode 28: Creating a Legacy Through Mentorship, featuring Bryan LaFleur
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects, Preston and Captain Brian LaFleur discuss the intricacies of the fire service, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning, mentorship, and effective leadership. They explore the challenges independent thinkers face, called 'trouble-making mavericks,' and the need for officers to cultivate their potential. The conversation highlights the significance of understanding crew dynamics, explaining the rationale behind decisions, and managing passion to avoid burnout. Ultimately, the episode serves as a guide for firefighters seeking to navigate their careers with purpose and resilience. In this conversation, Bryan Lafleur and Preston discuss the challenges and growth opportunities within the fire service, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, leadership, and personal responsibility. They share personal experiences of overcoming adversity, the significance of building relationships, and the responsibilities of being an officer. The dialogue highlights the need for continuous learning and the impact of positive mentorship on career development.
S1 E27 · Mon, September 16, 2024
Episode 27: The Role of the Senior Probie: Passion and Leadership
In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston engages with Sam Thrash, a firefighter from Texas, to discuss the importance of honoring fallen firefighters, particularly in the context of 9/11. They delve into the significance of firehouse culture, the journey from being a probie to a senior firefighter, and the vital role of mentorship and training in shaping the next generation of firefighters. Sam emphasizes the fire service's need for passion and leadership, highlighting how a strong sense of brotherhood can positively impact the profession. The conversation also touches on the importance of continuous learning and sharing knowledge through platforms like social media.
S1 E26 · Mon, September 09, 2024
Episode 26: The Grass Isn't Always Greener featuring Paul Shoemaker from the Next Level Training Network
In this conversation, Preston interviews Paul Shoemaker, a Colorado firefighter and founder of Next Level Training. They discuss Paul's journey in the fire service, his passion for teaching, and the challenges he faced along the way. They also touch on the importance of authentic conversations and the impact of podcasts in connecting like-minded individuals. The conversation highlights the need for self-reflection and the realization that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Paul Shoemaker shares his journey of personal growth and transformation within the fire service. He discusses the importance of humility, the impact of negative experiences on his mindset, and the realization that he needed to change himself rather than blaming external factors. He also emphasizes the role of his family, particularly his wife, in supporting his career and personal development. Paul Shoemaker discusses the importance of family and surrounding oneself with like-minded individuals. He emphasizes the need to align with people with similar challenges and goals, particularly in the fire service. Paul also shares his passion for teaching and the responsibility that comes with it. He talks about the evolution of Next Level Training and his vision for the future, which includes creating a platform for other firefighters to teach. Paul highlights the significance of mentorship and empowering backseat firefighters to become subject matter experts. He concludes by encouraging listeners to prioritize family and reach out to him for any questions or discussions about lithium-ion batteries or extrication. 00:00 Introduction and Background 09:21 Paul's Journey in the Fire Service 19:18 The Power of Authentic Conversations 28:30 Challenges and Self-Reflection 35:02 The Grass Isn't Always Greener 46:09 The Role of Humility in Personal Growth 56:55 The Importance of Family Support 01:08:17 Family and Like-Minded Individuals 01:13:38 The Passion and Responsibility of Teaching 01:18:04 The Vision for Next Level Training 01:26:50 Empowering Backseat Firefighters 01:34:43 Prioritizing Family and Reaching Out for Discussions
S1 E25 · Sat, August 31, 2024
Episode 25: "Heart and Hustle" featuring Sean Ryan from Animal House Training
Preston interviews Sean Ryan, a 20-year fireman and lead instructor in this episode. They discuss Sean's journey into the fire service and the importance of brotherhood and family. They also touch on the role of training and the selection of training cadre members. The conversation emphasizes the need for a positive and supportive culture within the fire service and the importance of continuous improvement and learning. The talk explores the challenges of working with a new generation of firefighters and the importance of maintaining discipline and accountability. It delves into the generational gap and the need to adapt teaching methods to reach younger firefighters. The conversation also discusses the process of cutting recruits who are not meeting the standards and the importance of physical fitness in the fire service. Additionally, it touches on the creation and purpose of Animal House Training, a group focused on sharing knowledge and improving the fire service. In this final part of the conversation, Sean and Preston discuss the importance of networking and spreading knowledge in the fire service. They talk about the value of having a strong team and cadre that can provide honest feedback and help firefighters improve. They emphasize the need to embrace failure and learn from it, as well as the importance of training in gear to prepare for the challenges of the fireground. Sean also shares his experience as a cancer survivor and how it has motivated him to push himself and encourage others to prioritize their health and fitness. They conclude by discussing the importance of managing risks and being prepared to provide the highest quality service to the community.
S1 E24 · Tue, August 27, 2024
Episode 24: Are you an Asset or Liability? Featuring Marcos Orozco from Hardknox Sunday
Marcos Orozco has been into fitness his entire life and he's been training in bunker gear for nearly two decades! He has been on a mission to help others by creating fitness programs through his Hardknox platform and teaching nationwide. Marcos is a no-nonsense fireman who walks the walk. This episode was recorded in person and it was very refreshing not to have to talk to a screen! Stay Relentless.
Thu, August 22, 2024
Episode 23: "The Art of the Senior Man" featuring Jess Rodzinka
Jess Rodzinka is known for his teaching and lectures on the "Senior Man" position in the fire service. After speaking with him in this episode, I discovered that Jess is on a mission to not only create good firefighters but also GREAT HUMAN BEINGS!
S1 E22 · Thu, August 15, 2024
Episode 22: "Don't Suck!" featuring Remi Kline and Mason Bellamy from Firefighter Endurance
The Firefighter Endurance boys grace the podcast with some rejuvenating passion for firefighting, fitness, and all-around grit. I am going to love seeing where these two end up. Their passion is much-needed and contagious.
S1 E21 · Thu, August 08, 2024
Episode 21: "The Gold Standard for Competition" featuring Scott Vadakin
Episode 21 features one of my favorite people in the fire service, Scott "Pope" Vadakin. One of the most humble and dedicated people in the fire service. Scott is an FDIC instructor, lead training instructor, and cadre member of the True Grit Training LLC. When Vadakin speaks, people listen. See why he resonates with people so well in this latest episode.
S1 E20 · Thu, August 08, 2024
Episode 20: "Plain and Simple" featuring John Chambliss
EPISODE #20 baby!! We hit the mark Rejects! This episode brings on a good ol' homegrown Texas boy who has a passion to serve and build others up around him. John is the creator of 48str8 supplements, a product that is healthy, clean, and created for first responders. He has a no-nonsense approach to being fit for the job and treating rookies the right way.
S1 E19 · Thu, August 01, 2024
Episode 19: Passion, Love, and Experience featuring Mike "Bull" Torres
This episode brings in one of the most passionate and charismatic people I know in the fire service. When you listen to Mike talk, you can feel the love he has mixed with his hilarious swagger. Mike and I talk a lot about how mentors have influenced him to be the man he is today, and how his Mom has always been his biggest motivator to be the absolute best. I hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as I did just hosting it. This is part 1 of our conversation, and we plan to do a live one soon.
S1 E18 · Fri, July 26, 2024
Episode 18: Making the Search Outside of Your Bubble with Justin Lorenzen aka J Lo
On this week's episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, Justin Lorenzen discussed his recent trip to the Firemanship Fire Conference, his journey and experiences in the fire service, getting your wife involved, and much more. I hope you enjoy it.
S1 E17 · Fri, July 12, 2024
Episode 17: Set Your Own Standard, featuring Chief Dennis Reilly
In this episode, Chief Dennis Reilly brings his 50 years of passion and experience to the podcast. It was great listening to someone who has lived and experienced what works and what doesn't. I only hope to be able to give half of what he has contributed to this profession.
S1 E16 · Wed, July 03, 2024
Episode 16: "The Humble Assassin" featuring Matt Magee
Matt Magee is stoic, reserved, and humble, but don't get it twisted... there is a dormant beast inside. Matt Magee is a 20-year member of the fire service and his journey through the smoke diver programs, fitness, and mental toughness are worth listening to and sharing. Episode 16 is the roadmap to prepare for life, firefighting, and smoke diver.
S1 E15 · Wed, July 03, 2024
Episode 15: "Heavy Hitters" featuring Jesse Horton
Get ready to be hit over the head with a hailstorm of gold nuggets. Jesse Horton from Horton's and Hunt brings the heat. The word PASSION in all caps comes to mind when I think of Jesse. When you hear him speak, you know he is on a warpath to make the fire service better than he found it. Please tune in for this episode, it will go down in the record books.
S1 E14 · Thu, June 27, 2024
Episode 14: Failure is inevitable. Featuring Mike Nasti from Tip of the Spear Leadership
Mike Nasti is passionate about leadership in the fire service from any position. In Episode 14 we discuss what it takes to be a leader and a company officer in the fire service.
S1 E13 · Thu, June 20, 2024
Episode 13: "Sweat Equity" featuring Danny Beauvais from Student of the Game Fire Podcast
Right out the gate, Danny B was throwing punches! He is as real as they come and the fire service needs more of his style and authenticity. Tune in to Episode 13 to hear the Student of Game Fire Podcast host drop some truth bombs and talk about his why.
S1 E12 · Fri, June 14, 2024
Episode 12: The Bravest Strongman Club featuring Will Hegedus
On this episode, I had the great honor of hosting Will Hegedus from the FDNY, creator of the Bravest Strongman Club. Will loves to debate hot topics like various types of fitness in the fire service, but also, when and when not to train in gear! His passion for tradition and brotherhood is very strong and unique for anyone who doesn't fire fire on the East Coast. You won't want to miss this one!
S1 E11 · Fri, June 07, 2024
Episode 11: Faith, Family, Fire featuring John Spera from Fit to Fight Fire
This has been one of my favorite conversations with one of my favorite people. John Spera is an amazing firefighter, but more importantly, a strong man of faith. In this episode, we discuss the three pillars of his foundation: Faith, Family, and Fire and why it must be in that order.
S1 E10 · Thu, May 30, 2024
Episode 10: "Accountability is coming" featuring Logan Hinkle from Rural Fire Tactics
This episode features my friend, Logan Hinkle. A young, passionate fireman doing great things in the fire service. I guarantee he will be a big name in the fire service soon, so embrace this conversation now so you can look back on it.
S1 E9 · Thu, May 23, 2024
Episode 9: The "Williams Key" to building resiliency. Featuring Trevor Williams
Trevor may be one of the most interesting and selfless people in the fire service. From his upbringing as a missionary in Africa and Haiti, to not only surviving the Haiti earthquake of 2010 but risking his life to help strangers in a time of chaos. That was before he joined the LA County Fire Department and created a new way to defeat doors without destroying them as a probie! You won't want to skip this one!
S1 E8 · Thu, May 16, 2024
Episode 8: Tailboard Misfits featuring John Velez
In this episode, John Velez from Tailboard Misfits comes out to make a special announcement. We also talk about mentorship, leadership, and the elusive senior man!
S1 E7 · Thu, May 09, 2024
Episode 7: Tailboard Leadership, leading from the bottom up. Featuring a (Mustacheless) Ljay Geist!
I had the pleasure of speaking with Ljay Geist, a western Kansas firefighter making a HUGE impact on the fire service. Watch this episode to see his very first appearance without a mustache and hear the story of why!
S1 E6 · Mon, May 06, 2024
Episode 6: "The New Old School" With Joshua Everetts
In this episode, I sit with Joshua Everetts at the COBC conference in Pensacola. Josh is passionate about marriage, the fire service, and the path he walked to get where he is today.
S1 E5 · Sun, April 28, 2024
Episode 5: Humble Work Ethic, with Logan Broberg from Rogue Firemanship
In this episode, I discuss culture and leadership in the fire service with Logan Broberg. You can immediately tell that Logan is the real deal and super humble. His work ethic is astronomical, but he will tell you he is just a normal dude. You will not be disappointed with this episode, please like and share to help spread the word.
S1 E4 · Thu, April 18, 2024
Episode 4: The 5 Steps to Take to Create Change When Returning From Fire Conferences
In this episode, I discuss why fire conferences are important for passionate firefighters, the article I wrote in Firefighter Nation, and the five steps you MUST take when returning to your department after a fire conference.
Bonus · Fri, April 12, 2024
Episode 3 (Part 2): Adam Haywood Part two: post LCC Fire School review
Adam Haywood and I discuss our experience at the LCC Fire School in Parsons, Kansas. We take a deep dive into the lectures, the H.O.T. classes, and good ol' small-town USA hospitality.
S1 E3 · Wed, April 10, 2024
Episode 3 (Part 1): Nobody Can Escape Me, with Adam Haywood
I had a great conversation with Adam Haywood from Independent Fire Training. We chatted about all things fire service, Adam's journey starting his training company, and rapid-fire questions for Preston! We even did it while traveling to Parson's Kansas for the LCC Fire School.
S1 E2 · Wed, April 03, 2024
Episode 2: Character, Mindset, and the six expectations every great firefighter should possess
In episode two, I discuss why having a good character and a strong mindset are the foundation of what it means to be a great firefighter. Along with that, I discuss the personal expectations that I have for myself when I am working on the job.
S1 E1 · Sat, March 30, 2024
Episode 1: The Introduction
In the very first episode of Relentless Rejects, the host Preston Lyons talks about what being a Relentless Reject is and discusses further the direction of the podcast. This podcast is for firefighters who are into the job but face the harsh reality of everyone not feeling the same way. Overcoming the peer pressure to be mediocre is tough, but you should be relentless in your pursuit to make an impact.
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