Shattered
Sometimes, news stories echo in our minds for years after they’ve occurred. With each season of Shattered, we select one of those complex, true stories and take an in-depth look. Season 4 charts the life and death of Jimmy Hoffa. Season 3 tells the story of a string of murders that took place in the mid-1970s in Oakland County, Michigan. Many people know the case as the Oakland County Child Killer. Season 2 tells the story of Rick Wershe Jr., also known as White Boy Rick. At 14, Rick became the youngest FBI informant ever and helped bring down some of Detroit’s bi...
Mon, June 08, 2020
Introducing Someone Knows Something
Debra has been searching for her son, Donald Izzett Jr. for 25 years. The last time she spoke with him was Mother’s Day. He had called from a road trip, but sounded upset, saying he needed money. Then the phone went dead. Donnie’s friend told police that he dropped him off in New Orleans. But Debra thinks he was murdered. And decides to investigate the case herself. SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING from CBC Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tue, June 02, 2020
A Night in Detroit
On Shattered we look back on some of the biggest stories from Michigan’s past and re-examine them. But today, we're going to tell you about something that happened very recently. Sunday, May 31st in, Downtown Detroit. This episode contains explicit language and violence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bonus · Fri, April 24, 2020
The Best Advice Show
As we continue to work on Shattered: Season 5, we want to tell you about a new, tiny, daily podcast that might be an aural balm fo this challenging moment. It’s easy to feel helpless as each new day breeds more uncertainty. The Best Advice Show , hosted by Zak Rosen, exists as a daily reminder that there are weird, delightful and effective ways to survive and thrive in this world. In every episode of the show, a different contributor offers their own personal take on what they do to make their life better, healthier, saner and more liveable. Subscribe to "The Best Advice Show" wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Wed, April 01, 2020
Introducing: Everything is Fine
As we work away on Shattered: Season 5, host/producer Jeremy Allen is back with a brand new invention. It's a podcast called Everything is Fine. As we navigate one of the strangest time periods in history, we are sure to question everything and wonder if what we’re doing is right. The only solid answer available is, “who the hell knows?!” Jeremy is a father of three and husband to Kelly. Like most of us, he's working from home currently, while trying this whole homeschooling thing out. It’s territory he's not familiar with - at all! Each day for the next few weeks, Jeremy will document what life is like with an audio journal. His family will guest star along the way. Here's a preview. You can subscribe to Everything is Fine wherever you listen to Shattered. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Wed, March 04, 2020
Joyce - Pt. 2
This is part 2 of a 2-part story. This story For Joyce Dixson-Haskett, life had hit a fork in the road. She’d just been released from the hospital after receiving a brutal beating. She knew it was only a matter of time before a “date” would lead to something worse than a 13-day hospital stay. If a “John” didn’t end her life, her trafficker might. If you or someone you know needs help call the trafficking hotline @ 1 (888) 373-7888 Watch more of Joyce’s story here and see our entire series on trafficking here . To subscribe to the Shattered newsletter, go here and to help keep Shattered going, become a member of Shattered Plus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tue, March 03, 2020
Joyce
This is part 1 of a 2 part story. As a young girl from Saginaw, Michigan, Joyce Dixson-Haskett was molested and abused. As she grew up the abuse got worse, and she would eventually be forced into the world of human trafficking. She would be pushed to a breaking point, where she would have to kill or be killed. But that’s only part of her story. If you or someone you know needs help call the trafficking hotline @ 1 (888) 373-7888 Watch more of Joyce’s story here and see our entire series on trafficking here . To subscribe to the Shattered newsletter, go here and to help keep Shattered going, become a member of Shattered Plus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S4 E5 · Tue, January 07, 2020
The Finale
In the summer of 1975, Hoffa was running out of options. His long time organized crime associates told him he should take his pension and retire, but he had no interest in that. He wanted the power back in his hands, presidency of the Teamsters Union. He knew that the only way back to glory was if he could convince east coast crime and labor boss Tony Provenzano to back him. What Hoffa didn’t know, was that a decision had already been made. Mob bosses believed Hoffa was going to share their secrets with the FBI, and so, he had to go. --- Shattered Plus members get ad-free episodes PLUS a bonus episode of Shattered every week. Find out more at https://wdiv.supportingcast.fm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S4 E4 · Tue, December 31, 2019
The Comeback
"When it was time for me to go they shackled and chained me like a wild animal: ten pounds of leg irons, belly band, handcuffs, and a chain running up from the leg irons to the handcuffs. There was a caravan to Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary that looked like a scene from Bonnie and Clyde. I don’t know where the hell they thought I was going to run to." - Jimmy Hoffa --- Shattered Plus members get ad-free episodes PLUS a bonus episode of Shattered every week. Find out more at https://wdiv.supportingcast.fm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bonus · Tue, December 24, 2019
The JFK Assassination
In episode 3, we spent a few minutes looking at Jimmy Hoffa’s possible connection to the JFK assassination. But there are so many details we couldn’t fit into that episode, so we’ve decided to bring you this bonus chapter about what we learned. --- Shattered Plus members get ad-free episodes PLUS a bonus episode of Shattered every week. Find out more at https://wdiv.supportingcast.fm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S4 E3 · Tue, December 17, 2019
Blood Feud
In some ways, the relationship between Jimmy Hoffa and Bobby Kennedy was simple. Hoffa saw a spoiled rich kid. Kennedy saw a corrupt racketeer. An aide to JFK described it best. He called their rivalry a “blood feud” driven by hatred on both sides. --- Shattered Plus members get ad-free episodes PLUS a bonus episode of Shattered every week. Find out more at https://wdiv.supportingcast.fm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S4 E2 · Tue, December 10, 2019
Mobbed Up
La Cosa Nostra is Italian for ‘our thing’ or ‘this thing of ours.’ It’s how members of the Italian Mafia sometimes refer to themselves. The roots of La Cosa Nostra stretch back to 19th century Sicily. Its members began immigrating to the United States and Canada over 100 hundred years ago, and they still exist today. So how did LCN form a partnership with Jimmy Hoffa, and how did their relationship evolve? --- Shattered Plus members get ad-free episodes PLUS a bonus episode of Shattered every week. Find out more at https://wdiv.supportingcast.fm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S4 E1 · Tue, December 03, 2019
A Tyrant of a Foreman
Jimmy Hoffa was a complicated guy, driven by a sincere desire to bring a better life to the members of his union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. Hoffa was also driven by relentless ambition, greed, and an obsession with power. To understand his life and death, we travel back to his humble beginnings, where a tyrannical foreman sets a young Hoffa in motion. From there, an early meeting with some notorious Detroit mobsters redirects Hoffa's path. --- Shattered Plus members get ad-free episodes PLUS a bonus episode of Shattered every week. Find out more at https://wdiv.supportingcast.fm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Trailer · Wed, November 13, 2019
Shattered Presents: Hoffa
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Bonus · Mon, July 08, 2019
Black Friday - UPDATE
An update from Shattered: Black Friday, Season 1. The three missing boys from Morenci, Michigan have been gone for nearly a decade. Andrew, Alexander and Tanner Skelton disappeared on Black Friday of 2010. The boy's father, John Skelton claims he gave them to an underground group to keep them safe from their mother, but police have found no evidence to support that claim. They also haven't found the boys. Recently John's family started questioning some of John's stories. John's own father says he has given him an ultimatum, saying he won't see him again until John tells the whole story. John is more alone than ever before. Also, not long ago police received a tip that led them to property in rural Ohio. A person claimed to have seen John Skelton and his blue van near a pond Thanksgiving day in 2010. A dive team, police dogs and officers from both Ohio and Michigan worked together to find the boys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E8 · Wed, May 08, 2019
Collateral Damage
Almost half a century has passed and the families of Timothy King, Kristine Mihelich, Jill Robinson and Mark Stebbins are left without answers. The families demand more from the authorities. The police and prosecutors say there’s nothing more to give. Is the person responsible still out there? Did the killer die? Is there a massive coverup? The families share their theories. Shattered Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E7 · Tue, April 30, 2019
Dr. Danto
The police and task force are in full gear, searching through mounds of information. Dr. Bruce Danto enters the picture offering theories and helping to profile the killer(s). On April 4th, 1977 a man calling himself Allen sends Dr. Danto a letter, claiming he is the roommate of the Oakland County Child Killer. Eventually Allen would setup a meeting with Dr. Danto. Shattered Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bonus · Thu, April 25, 2019
White Boy Rick - UPDATE
I know we’re in the middle of season 3 of Shattered right now, but Kevin Dietz, host of season 2, White Boy Rick, is back to let you know what’s been going on with Rick and to tell you about a development in his story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E6 · Tue, April 23, 2019
The Magicians' Confession
Frank Shelden and Gerald Richards have just returned to the mainland after taking four boys from St. Joe’s Catholic school to North Fox Island for a three day trip. Michael Dunsmore, Bill Johnson and two other boys were put through horrible, unforgettable, life-altering experiences. One of the two unnamed boys tells his mother a harrowing story about being sexually assaulted by Shelden in a cabin on the island. The boys' mother calls the police to relay the story. Shattered Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E5 · Tue, April 16, 2019
North Fox Island
Francis Shelden was a Millionaire from Ann Arbor, Michigan. He came from a well-to-do family with ties to presidents, governors and even princes. He earned his B.A from Yale and served in the Michigan Air Guard. He had his own company, his own plane, and his own island. He also operated his own pedophile ring. Shattered Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E4 · Tue, April 09, 2019
He's Just Not Here Anymore
The discovery of Timothy King’s body cements suspicions of a serial killer. The lives of the victims’ families are shattered. Police from across the region mobilize in a way never seen before. They have a few leads and suspects, and begin searching for familiar criminals and new faces suspected of involvement in the slaying of these young children. Shattered Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E3 · Tue, April 02, 2019
Captive
Oakland County families are living in terror after three children have been abducted and murdered. The killer is becoming bolder - the most recent victim, Kristine Mihelich, was discovered after being missing for 19 days. Tensions are at an all-time high. But the killer isn’t done. Shattered Podcast . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E2 · Tue, March 26, 2019
There's Something Happening Here
January 1977: five children have been murdered in or near Oakland County in the last year, and now a sixth, Kristine Mihelich, has been abducted. Investigators are seeing similarities in the cases and begin to pursue the possibility of a single killer. Shatteredpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S3 E1 · Tue, March 19, 2019
The Beginning of the End
Shattered Season 3, Child Killer, Episode 1. By 1976, Detroit’s population had plummeted as residents left for the suburbs in droves. The wealthiest, most exclusive destinations were found in Oakland County, where mothers and fathers always felt comfortable letting their children roam the neighborhood until the street lights came on. Life was great and then suddenly, it wasn’t. shatteredpodcast.com This episode is brought to you by Audible ( Audible.com/s3 ) and Care/Of (promo code s350 at checkout). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Trailer · Tue, February 12, 2019
Coming Soon: Child Killer
In Season 3 of Shattered, host Jeremy Allen is back to tell the story of a string of murders that took place in the mid-1970s in Oakland County, Michigan. Many people know the case as the Oakland County Child Killer. The story is well known in southeast Michigan, but it’s never been told with such depth. Child Killer drills through the surface of the story, all the way down to its core. From millionaire cover-ups to a father’s undying love for his son. Egos, confusion and manipulation take over in a seemingly endless pursuit for answers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bonus · Thu, January 10, 2019
Shattered Presents: Crimetown
We're hard at work on our next season of Shattered. In the meantime, though, we think you'll like this episode of another show we're fans of. Welcome to Crimetown . Each season they investigate the culture of crime in a different city. In Season 2, Crimetown heads to the heart of the Rust Belt: Detroit, Michigan. "From its heyday as Motor City to its rebirth as the Brooklyn of the Midwest, Detroit’s history reflects a series of issues that strike at the heart of American identity: race, poverty, policing, loss of industry, the war on drugs, and our universal desire for a savior. Detroit’s a tough town, and its residents are even tougher. They’ve weathered riots, a drug epidemic, political scandal, and innumerable other hardships, but they’re still here—and they have stories to tell. New episodes out Mondays, exclusively on Spotify." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bonus · Thu, January 03, 2019
Shattered Presents: Mismatch
As we prepare for the release of Shattered’s Season 3, we’re excited to share one of our favorite stories from the new season of our another podcast from Graham Media, Mismatch . Hosted by veteran reporter Roger Weber, Mismatch features stories about the incompatible, the unsuitable, and the out-of-step. In this episode: Theodore Roosevelt lived through a bullet in the chest and the carriage accident that killed his bodyguard. He’d beaten the chronic illness that left him gasping for air, dodged a charging rhinoceros, made his own charge up San Juan Hill and gotten through the day on which both his wife and mother died. But now, feverish and emaciated, he was ready for his life to end on The River of Doubt. For more Mismatch, visit mismatchpodcast.com or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Bonus · Thu, December 27, 2018
Introducing Shattered: Season 3
Jeremy Allen, host of season 1, is joined by Kevin Dietz, host of season 2, to announce the subject of Shattered: Season 3 coming in 2019. Follow us on Facebook , Twitter and Instagram as we get closer to the release. Have a happy and healthy new year! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 Enull · Fri, September 07, 2018
Introducing Shattered, Season 2 – White Boy Rick
Welcome to Season 2 of Shattered. When he was 14 years-old, Rick Wershe, Jr. became one of the youngest FBI informants in American history. The inside information he provided led to the downfall of some of Detroit's biggest drug dealers. Once the FBI no longer needed Rick, he became a dealer in his own right, only until being busted on a cocaine possession charge when he was 17. Wershe has been in prison ever since. Hosted by WDIV investigative reporter, Kevin Dietz, Shattered: White Boy Rick chronicles Wershe's improbable life story. Along the way, you’ll meet the sister who stood by him, the drug boss who befriended him, the FBI agents who employed him, and even Matthew McConaughey, who plays the part of Rick’s dad in the upcoming movie, White Boy Rick . You can hear the entire story starting September 6th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E1 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E1: Like Father, Like Son
Chapter 1 – Like Father, Like Son: In 1984, crack cocaine is becoming an epidemic in Detroit. Several African-American drug gangs are battling each other for territory. On the east side of the city, a white teenager is about to find himself at the center of it all when the FBI asks him to learn everything he can about the drug dealers in his neighborhood. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E2 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E2: Summer Job
Chapter 2 – Summer Job: To get inside information on the local drug trade, Rick has to do more than watch from the outside. But it’s not as simple as just heading up to the local crack house with cash in hand. He needs to be known as someone who can be trusted both to buy drugs and to never snitch to police if he gets caught. He needs someone to vouch for him and he knows exactly who it should be, the first family of cocaine on Detroit’s east side, the Curry's. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E3 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E3: Fight Night in Vegas
Chapter 3 – Fight Night in Vegas: When the police keep raiding drug houses rife with cash and cocaine, the Currys don’t think it’s simply bad luck for them or great work by the police. They suspect there is a rat in the organization and they want it exterminated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E4 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E4: I’m No Cocaine Kingpin
Chapter 4 – I’m No Cocaine Kingpin: Rick has given the feds enough information for them to start prosecuting the Curry’s. Out of a job, Rick charts a new path with the skills he's accumulated from the government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E5 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E5: Operation Backbone
Chapter 5 – Operation Backbone: From behind bars, Rick is asked to inform again as part of Operation Backbone, an FBI sting that aims to catch dirty Detroit cops. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E6 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E6: Inspector Todd
Chapter 6 – Inspector Todd: Rick says the reason he’s been languishing in prison for so long has a lot to do with one man, Gil Hill. Hill was the head the Detroit Police Department’s Homicide Unit and he also played the part of a cop in the Beverly Hills Cop trilogy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E7 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E7: Kid Rock and White Boy Rick
Chapter 7 – Kid Rock and White Boy Rick: Rick is granted his first parole hearing in 15 years. Kid Rock shows up to testify on his behalf. Rick thinks he has a chance at parole. But a letter from then Wayne County Prosecutor (and current Mayor of Detroit), Mike Duggan, throws a wrench into Rick’s dream of freedom. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S2 E8 · Thu, September 06, 2018
S2 E8: Just Call Me Rick
Chapter 8 – Just Call Me Rick With Hollywood making a movie about his life and some positive signs coming from the new Wayne County Prosecutor, Rick thinks he might have a shot at parole. As that’s happening - before he was sent to prison, before he sold drugs, before he became an informant, Rick was young and in love with Michelle. All these years later, they’ve reconnected. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 Enull · Sun, April 15, 2018
~~Introducing Shattered, Season 1 – Black Friday~~
Welcome to Shattered, a new true-crime podcast from WDIV in Detroit. Season 1 chronicles the young Skelton brothers’ disappearance on Black Friday, 2010. The mystery of what happened to the boys remains open, with their small Michigan hometown wondering - could a father have committed an unimaginable crime? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E1 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E1: Shattered
Season 1, Chapter 1: The Skeltons, a family of 5, once whole and together has been shattered. John, the father, begins acting erratically and eventually pushes mom, Tanya, too far. But he's not done there. His anger toward Tanya leads to the eventual disappearance of 9-year-old Andrew, 7-year-old Alexander and 5-year-old Tanner Skelton. But how and why? Shattered: Black Friday is the story of true life events from Morenci, Michigan. A small town with a big problem. If you have any information about the whereabouts of Andrew, Alexander and Tanner Skelton, please call the Morenci Police Department at 517-458-7104. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E2 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E2: Irreversible
Season 1, Chapter 2: Andrew, Alexander and Tanner are missing. But before their dad, John, made them vanish, a storm was brewing between him and his wife, Tanya. Tanya gives us a glimpse into life with John before Black Friday 2010. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E3 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E3: Maze Runners
Season 1, Chapter 3: John Skelton sits alone in a cell, with all the answers locked away deep inside his mind. Chief Larry Weeks and Detective Lt. Jeremy Brewer are the past and present lead investigators on the case. Is there any way to find the answers, find the boys, without John's cooperation? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E4 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E4: A Family Thing
Season 1, Chapter 4: We’re welcomed into the home of Tanya Skelton . We get into the alleged abuse of her own sons and John's family’s take on what he did or didn’t do. Tanya also reveals what built her back up after an emotional breakdown. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E5 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E5: Me, Myself and John
Season 1, Chapter 5: With his three sons missing, John sits inside a Michigan prison cell. He doesn't seem worried, but he also doesn't seem to feel guilty. Hear John tell his story, for the first time, in his own words. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E6 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E6: A Simpler Story
Season 1, Chapter 6: John Skelton's stories change every time he tells them. One that has been told, more than once, is that he gave his children to the Amish . Because they are such a private people, there's no record of their thoughts on this possibility. WDIV's Sandra Ali and Jeremy Allen hit the road to get a firsthand account from the Amish. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E7 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E7: Holiday Road
Season 1, Chapter 7: Early morning, Black Friday, 2010, John Skelton's cell phone registers to cell phone towers between Morenci, Michigan and Holiday City, Ohio. Somewhere along this route is where police believe he made his children disappear. Lead Investigator Jeremy Brewer takes us on a ride, following that very route. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E8 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E8: Southern Discomfort
Season 1, Chapter 8: John Skelton’s family in Morenci stays tight-lipped about the case. His mother, father and sister live a thousand miles away in Florida. Jeremy Allen heads to Jacksonville, seeking a perspective we haven’t yet heard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E9 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E9: Missoula, Montana
Season 1: Chapter 9: As investigators work the Skelton case in Michigan, something pops up, but way off their radar. Human remains are found in Missoula, Montana – the remains of 3 kids. Lead Investigator Jeremy Brewer and Tanya try to figure out a connection to Montana. Tanya also struggles with what John Skelton’s family is saying about the case, her boys and her role in all of it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E10 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E10: Dear John
Season 1, Chapter 10: John Skelton has been silent for the better part of a decade. WDIV’s Sandra Ali and Jeremy Allen do their best to get him to speak. In the meantime, police bring someone with Amish ties to confront John. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E11 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E11: Inmate #812593
Season 1, Chapter 11: After the exchange of letters, a visit to the prison and many emails, John Skelton calls us on the phone. The public will hear John’s words in his own voice for the first time in several years. He talks about his meeting with Mose Gingerich, his heart breaking for his ex-wife Tanya and how one of Tanya’s sisters prompted him to reach out and finally call. John discusses hate mail, his internet searches and so much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
S1 E12 · Sun, April 15, 2018
S1 E12: Getting to the Point
Season 1, Chapter 12: Tanner, Alexander and Andrew Skelton’s whereabouts continue to be a mystery. Their father, John has kept the information needed to crack the case locked up inside his head, but now he’s talking. In our second conversation on the phone with John, he opens up about his love for Tanya and admits he made a big mistake. He also says there were other people at his house, who drove his van early in the morning, back on Black Friday 2010. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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