This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz take the show on the road and gab live with Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers; discuss the new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson; and review the former lawyers and Chief of Staff who will testify against Donald Trump. 

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:

City Cast Madison podcast and Madison Minutes newsletter

Jennifer Rubin for The Washington Post: “Wisconsin Dems’ big wins for the rule of law might be an inflection point”

Scott Bauer for AP: “Wisconsin Supreme Court asked to draw new legislative boundaries over Republican objections”

James Hohmann for The Washington Post: “In Wisconsin, Tony Evers made a virtue of being dull”

Amy Gardner and Michael Kranish for The Washington Post: “New speaker Mike Johnson’s 2020 election denial could have 2024 implications”

Carl Hulse for The New York Times: “The Far Right Gets Its Man of the House”

Ours Was the Shining Future: The Story of the American Dream by David Leonhardt 

Katherine Faulders, Mike Levine, and Alexander Mallin for ABC News: “Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources”

Paul Blumenthal for HuffPost: “The Guilty Pleas In Trump’s Georgia Indictment Are Starting To Roll Uphill”

David French for The New York Times: “Trump’s Lawyers Are Going Down. Is He?”

Here are this week’s chatters:

John: Mark Shanahan for The Boston Globe: “The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 was Boston’s strangest disaster“ and Dark Tide: The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 by Stephen Puleo  

Emily: Hesket Oslo podcast by Arnon Degani; This Is Palestine podcast by the Institute for Middle East Understanding; and The Ezra Klein Show podcast: “The Jewish Left Is Trying to Hold Two Thoughts at Once”

David: Vocal coach Karen Harris and “Jersey Girl” by Tom Waits

Listener chatter from Jake Sinderbrand: University of Wisconsin-Madison: “Wisconsin Idea” and Babcock Dairy Store

Listener chatter from Mike Duncan: