Katie interviews Marya Stark, founding executive director of Emerge America, about Marya's mother, Helen, who lived for most of her life with a debilitating lung condition that left her with 25% of normal lung capacity.  Helen had nine children, and somehow managed to make each believe that that one child was her favorite. Katie and Marya dig deep into how Helen might have managed to pull that off.<a href='https://katiehafner.com/our-mothers-ourselves-podcast/'>Our Mothers Ourselves</a> is an interview podcast that celebrates extraordinary mothers from all walks of life. Please share the one word that best describes your mother on the <a href='https://katiehafner.com/mother-word-cloud/'>Mother Word Cloud</a>.

Our Mothers Ourselves

Helen Stark -- How Did She Pull That Off?

Katie Hafner -- longtime  New York Times reporter and author of "Mother Daughter Me" -- interviews the offspring of one extraordinary mother. The concept is simple. And sometimes simple turns profound.