With Johnson in holiday mode, what do we make of Starmer’s move to fill the void with his own cost of living plans? Does his energy bills freeze proposal go far enough? Plus, special guest Tim Walker joins to discuss his Brexit showdown play Bloody Difficult Women and his time working alongside Johnson at The Telegraph. 

• “Brexit is like this awful family secret. The day granny got done for shoplifting that no one wants to talk about…” – Tim Walker
• “The cost of living is driving people into conditions you don’t associate with one of the world’s wealthiest countries. It’s really desperate.” – Arthur Snell 
• “Boris Johnson has always been an effortlessly selfish human being.” – Tim Walker 
• “Journalists have got into bed with the most useless, incompetent and damaging government of my lifetime.” – Tim Walker

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Presented by Andrew Harrison with Alex Andreou and Arthur Snell. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Alex Rees, Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Assistant Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.

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