The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on John de Souza, to talk about replacing car batteries, not charging them (
6:20), starting with fleets (
11:30), growing up in Africa and Dubai (
15:00), producing a movie (
19:00), entering uni at 16 (
22:10), selling his first startup to Bill Gates (
24:05), becoming an investor (
27:40), then doing a few more startups (
32:25), alighting on EV charging (
33:40), getting the car companies to buy in to swappable batteries (
39:20), raising $260 million (
42:40), why superchargers aren’t enough (
44:35), the future of the energy transition (
48:20), and his deal with Uber (
50:40).
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