Ann Arbor businessman Shri Thanedar, a Democratic candidate for governor, talks with Crain's Senior Reporter Chad Livengood about his plan gut "corporate welfare" tax incentive programs, invest in small business incubators and seek $30 billion in new state debt for investments in roads, bridges, underground infrastructure and schools. Thanedar is running in the Aug. 7 Democratic primary against former Senate Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer of East Lansing and Abdul El-Sayed, the former Detroit city health department director.