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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Exploring what it means to live a good life. What does it mean to live a good life? What is true happiness? What are the habits, practices, and dispositions that contribute to authentic human flourishing? No Small Endeavor examines these questions with host Lee C. Camp. You'll hear from best-selling authors, philosophers, scientists, artists, psychologists, theologians and even the occasional politician—courageous, impassioned people taking seriously the question of how to live a good life. Striving for a good life is No Small Endeavor, and we’re here with you on the road. Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

Mon, April 28, 2025
Sissy Goff: How to Raise Resilient Kids
There is no doubt that we are living in a rapidly changing world. Whether the topic is politics, technology, or climate - the future that our children face will likely look very different than previous generations. Given the modern challenges of smartphones, social media, and rising mental health issues, should our parenting also be evolving? Sissy Goff is the author of 13 books full of practical parenting advice for just such questions. She's been counseling kids and families for over 30 years, and her latest project focuses on building resilience in children. In this episode Sissy shares practical strategies every parent can use to help their children flourish, as well as advice for adults navigating the digital age. Show Notes Resources: Sissy’s Podcast Sissy's Books “Breath” by James Nestor “The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt “How to Find Meaning After Loss” by David Kessler “The Road Back to You” by Suzanne Stabile “Quiet Power” by Susan Cain Similar Episodes: Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz Angela Duckworth Alfie Kohn Transcript Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows. Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https://www.i
Bonus · Fri, April 25, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Sheryl Crow
This is our unabridged interview with Sheryl Crow. After a stellar performance on No Small Endeavor Live, 9 time Grammy Winner Sheryl Crow sits down with Lee to discuss the tension between ambition and creativity, the profound realization that accompanied her breast cancer diagnosis, and the impact of mindfulness and meditation on her daily life. Crow also tells the story behind her posthumous duet with Johnny Cash, the social advocacy that has defined her career, and how embracing an unconventional life led her to motherhood. All that, plus Sheryl's musical performance at No Small Endeavor: Live! Join us as we explore the challenges and triumphs of over 3 decades in the public eye. Show Notes Resources: The Sheryl Documentary " Forever " " Weather Channel " " Redemption Day " " Love Is A Good Thing " Sharon Salzberg & Faith Similar Episodes: Russ Taff: Music, Addiction and Redemption Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance Transcript Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows. Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a
Mon, April 21, 2025
Sheryl Crow: Becoming Who She Always Was
After a stellar performance on No Small Endeavor Live, 9 time Grammy Winner Sheryl Crow sits down with Lee to discuss the tension between ambition and creativity, the profound realization that accompanied her breast cancer diagnosis, and the impact of mindfulness and meditation on her daily life. Crow also tells the story behind her posthumous duet with Johnny Cash, the social advocacy that has defined her career, and how embracing an unconventional life led her to motherhood. All that, plus Sheryl's musical performance at No Small Endeavor: Live! Join us as we explore the challenges and triumphs of over 3 decades in the public eye. Show Notes Resources: The Sheryl Documentary " Forever " " Weather Channel " " Redemption Day " " Love Is A Good Thing " Sharon Salzberg & Faith Similar Episodes: Russ Taff: Music, Addiction and Redemption Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance Transcription Link Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows. Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: I
Bonus · Fri, April 18, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Mike Cosper
This is our unabridged interview with Mike Cosper. How do you raise criticisms about a group of which you consider yourself to be a member? Mike Cosper hosted The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, a podcast critiquing a lot of the tendencies of American Christianity. “ People are looking at Christianity and saying, is it true?” he says. “I think where I landed after my own negative experiences was asking, is it good?” In this episode, we cover some of the key issues such a question has raised for Mike - like celebrity culture and toxic masculinity - as well as what it’s like to do the work of insider critique in such a public role. Show Notes Resources: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Mike’s books Similar NSE episodes: Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe Katelyn Beaty: How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="https://www.facebook.com/NoSm
Mon, April 14, 2025
Mike Cosper: A Critique of American Christianity
How do you raise criticisms about a group of which you consider yourself to be a member? Mike Cosper hosted The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, a podcast critiquing a lot of the tendencies of American Christianity. “ People are looking at Christianity and saying, is it true?” he says. “I think where I landed after my own negative experiences was asking, is it good?” In this episode, we cover some of the key issues such a question has raised for Mike - like celebrity culture and toxic masculinity - as well as what it’s like to do the work of insider critique in such a public role. Show Notes Resources: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Mike’s books Similar NSE episodes: Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe Katelyn Beaty: How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook |<a href="https://www.youtube.com
Bonus · Fri, April 11, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Rainn Wilson
This is our unabridged interview with Rainn Wilson. Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica… and spirituality? In a time of cultural division and political polarization, what role can spirituality play in healing our fractured world? Rainn Wilson—best known as Dwight Schrute from The Office —isn't just a comedy icon. He’s also become an unlikely voice for spiritual reflection in Hollywood, where such conversations are often taboo. In this candid and thought-provoking interview, Wilson opens up about why he believes our divided world desperately needs a renewed spiritual vocabulary—and what that might look like beyond traditional religion. Show Notes Resources: “Soul Boom” by Rainn Wilson Laughing Matters Documentary Similar NSE episodes: Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen The Road to Character: David Brooks PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <strong
Mon, April 07, 2025
Rainn Wilson: Dwight Schrute Talks About Religion (Best of NSE)
Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica… and spirituality? In a time of cultural division and political polarization, what role can spirituality play in healing our fractured world? Rainn Wilson—best known as Dwight Schrute from The Office —isn't just a comedy icon. He’s also become an unlikely voice for spiritual reflection in Hollywood, where such conversations are often taboo. In this candid and thought-provoking interview, Wilson opens up about why he believes our divided world desperately needs a renewed spiritual vocabulary—and what that might look like beyond traditional religion. Show Notes Resources: “Soul Boom” by Rainn Wilson Laughing Matters Documentary Similar NSE episodes: Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen The Road to Character: David Brooks PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/
Bonus · Fri, April 04, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Marisa Franco
This is our unabridged interview with Marisa Franco. How important is it to have friends? Loneliness has reached epidemic levels in many countries, with research suggesting that it’s harder than ever for us to make and keep friends. And according to Marisa Franco, the issue isn’t trivial. “ Loneliness is as toxic for our bodies as smoking 15 cigarettes a day,” she says. “We are fundamentally social creatures… it's okay that you really want friends.” In this episode, she explains why friendship is a crucial aspect of a flourishing life, and gives helpful advice for those looking to make and keep friends. Show Notes Resources: “Platonic” by Marisa Franco The US Surgeon General’s Advisory on the Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community Similar NSE episodes: Alexandra Solomon: How to Have Flourishing Relationships Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: The Good Life - Lessons from the World’s Longest Study on Happiness Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https
Mon, March 31, 2025
Marisa Franco: How to Make (and Keep) Friends According To Science
How important is it to have friends? Loneliness has reached epidemic levels in many countries, with research suggesting that it’s harder than ever for us to make and keep friends. And according to Marisa Franco, the issue isn’t trivial. “ Loneliness is as toxic for our bodies as smoking 15 cigarettes a day,” she says. “We are fundamentally social creatures… it's okay that you really want friends.” In this episode, she explains why friendship is a crucial aspect of a flourishing life, and gives helpful advice for those looking to make and keep friends. Show Notes Resources: “Platonic” by Marisa Franco The US Surgeon General’s Advisory on the Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community Similar NSE episodes: Alexandra Solomon: How to Have Flourishing Relationships Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: The Good Life - Lessons from the World’s Longest Study on Happiness Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram</stro
Bonus · Fri, March 28, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Drew Holcomb
This is our unabridged interview with Drew Holcomb. ”The scarcity of life is what gives it value,” says singer-songwriter Drew Holcomb. “If we all lived forever, there would be no sort of rush to love and rush to justice and rush to mercy and rush to know people.” Drew’s new album, Memory Bank, co-created with his wife Ellie, is full of personal stories of love, resilience, mortality, and a strong but subtle social conscience. It was his father that inspired the title track on the album saying on their frequent family road trips that “ hope you guys don't expect to inherit anything. I put all my money in the memory bank.” Drew reflects on the impact this perspective has had on him, his art, and his faith. Drew and Lee also share their excitement about going on tour together this spring, along with Malcolm Gladwell, for No Small Endeavor: Live. Show Notes Resources: Drew’s website "The Last Sweet Mile" by Allen Levi Similar NSE episodes: Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss Russ Taff: Music, Addiction, and Redemption Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https://www.instagra
Mon, March 24, 2025
Drew Holcomb: All My Money Is in the Memory Bank
”The scarcity of life is what gives it value,” says singer-songwriter Drew Holcomb. “If we all lived forever, there would be no sort of rush to love and rush to justice and rush to mercy and rush to know people.” Drew’s new album, Memory Bank, co-created with his wife Ellie, is full of personal stories of love, resilience, mortality, and a strong but subtle social conscience. It was his father that inspired the title track on the album saying on their frequent family road trips that “ hope you guys don't expect to inherit anything. I put all my money in the memory bank.” Drew reflects on the impact this perspective has had on him, his art, and his faith. Drew and Lee also share their excitement about going on tour together this spring, along with Malcolm Gladwell, for No Small Endeavor: Live. Show Notes Resources: Drew’s website "The Last Sweet Mile" by Allen Levi Similar NSE episodes: Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss Russ Taff: Music, Addiction, and Redemption Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<a h
Bonus · Fri, March 21, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Jacques Pépin
This is our unabridged interview with Jacques Pépin. “Food is the great equalizer.” This is the mantra that has fueled the career of Jacques Pépin, who is respected as one of the finest chefs in the world. It has led him to cook for presidents and in world-class restaurants, and inspired him to write over thirty books. In this episode, he explains the role food plays in a flourishing life, describing how it breaks down barriers, builds community, and recalls us to ourselves, all while describing his own journey from a small French village to international culinary fame. Show Notes Resources: Jacques’s website “The French Chef” SNL sketch “La Technique” by Jacques Pépin Similar NSE episodes: Ben Cohen: Peace, Justice, Ice Cream Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm Peter Harris and Jo Swinney: A Place at the Table PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="h
Mon, March 17, 2025
Jacques Pépin: Food and The Good Life
“Food is the great equalizer.” This is the mantra that has fueled the career of Jacques Pépin, who is respected as one of the finest chefs in the world. It has led him to cook for presidents and in world-class restaurants, and inspired him to write over thirty books. In this episode, he explains the role food plays in a flourishing life, describing how it breaks down barriers, builds community, and recalls us to ourselves, all while describing his own journey from a small French village to international culinary fame. Show Notes Resources: Jacques’s website “The French Chef” SNL sketch “La Technique” by Jacques Pépin Similar NSE episodes: Ben Cohen: Peace, Justice, Ice Cream Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm Peter Harris and Jo Swinney: A Place at the Table PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook |<a href="https://w
Bonus · Fri, March 14, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Francis Collins
This is our unabridged interview with Francis Collins. Francis Collins has led some of the most significant scientific initiatives of our time, including the Human Genome Project and the National Institutes of Health under three U.S. presidents. In his new book, The Road to Wisdom , Collins grapples with the erosion of public trust in science, the polarization of society, and the challenge of discerning truth in the modern age. In this conversation, Collins shares insights from his experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic, his journey from atheism to Christian faith, and the importance of humility in the pursuit of knowledge. He reflects on his unlikely friendship with the late atheist Christopher Hitchens, the philosophical roots of truth skepticism, and the need for genuine dialogue across divides. Join us as we explore how wisdom, truth, science, and faith intersect—and why curiosity and compassion might just be the antidote to our age of distrust. Show Notes Resources: "The Road to Wisdom" by Francis Collins Similar NSE episodes: Quincy Byrdsong: Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder David Wilkinson: The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith Rachel Held Evans, Francis Collins, and Ed Larson: Faith, Science, Humility PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https://www.instagram.co
Mon, March 10, 2025
Francis Collins: The Road to Wisdom in an Age of Distrust
Francis Collins has led some of the most significant scientific initiatives of our time, including the Human Genome Project and the National Institutes of Health under three U.S. presidents. In his new book, The Road to Wisdom , Collins grapples with the erosion of public trust in science, the polarization of society, and the challenge of discerning truth in the modern age. In this conversation, Collins shares insights from his experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic, his journey from atheism to Christian faith, and the importance of humility in the pursuit of knowledge. He reflects on his unlikely friendship with the late atheist Christopher Hitchens, the philosophical roots of truth skepticism, and the need for genuine dialogue across divides. Join us as we explore how wisdom, truth, science, and faith intersect—and why curiosity and compassion might just be the antidote to our age of distrust. Show Notes Resources: "The Road to Wisdom" by Francis Collins Similar NSE episodes: Quincy Byrdsong: Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder David Wilkinson: The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith Rachel Held Evans, Francis Collins, and Ed Larson: Faith, Science, Humility PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="htt
Bonus · Fri, March 07, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Nancy French
This is our unabridged interview with Nancy French. Nancy French has spent her career helping others tell their stories. As a five-time New York Times bestselling ghostwriter, she has worked with prominent conservatives, celebrities, and political figures. But in her new memoir, Ghosted: An American Story , Nancy turns the pen on herself, recounting her own journey through faith, politics, and personal betrayal. A lifelong conservative, Nancy never expected that standing against Donald Trump would lead to ostracism from her own community. Nor did she foresee how uncovering systemic abuse at a major Christian camp would result in personal vitriol toward her. In this deeply honest conversation, Nancy and Lee discuss the personal cost of truth-telling, the cultural divide in America, and how faith can persist even amid profound disappointment. Show Notes Resources: Ghosted: An American Story by Nancy French David French’s NYT column USA Today article : Kanakuk Abuse Investigation Gretchen Carlson’s work on NDAs, workplace harassment No More SAMHSA Similar NSE episodes: David French & Russell Moore: How Should Christians Do Politics Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Kristin Du Mez sits with David French PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a h
Mon, March 03, 2025
Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe
Nancy French has spent her career helping others tell their stories. As a five-time New York Times bestselling ghostwriter, she has worked with prominent conservatives, celebrities, and political figures. But in her new memoir, Ghosted: An American Story , Nancy turns the pen on herself, recounting her own journey through faith, politics, and personal betrayal. A lifelong conservative, Nancy never expected that standing against Donald Trump would lead to ostracism from her own community. Nor did she foresee how uncovering systemic abuse at a major Christian camp would result in personal vitriol toward her. In this deeply honest conversation, Nancy and Lee discuss the personal cost of truth-telling, the cultural divide in America, and how faith can persist even amid profound disappointment. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Ghosted: An American Story by Nancy French David French’s NYT column USA Today article : Kanakuk Abuse Investigation Gretchen Carlson’s work on NDAs, workplace harassment No More SAMHSA Similar NSE episodes: David French & Russell Moore: How Should Christians Do Politics Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Kristin Du Mez sits with David French PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmalle
Bonus · Fri, February 28, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Mpho Tutu van Furth
This is our unabridged interview with Mpho Tutu van Furth. What does it mean to ask someone for forgiveness? The experience after Apartheid in South Africa has much to teach us. “In English, you say, ‘I’m sorry, forgive me.’ It’s all about me” Says Mpho Tutu van Furth, daughter to the late Desmond Tutu. But in the South African language of Xhosa “You say ndicela uxolo which means ‘I ask for peace’. And that’s a very different thing than ‘forgive me’” In this episode, explore the deep impact of apartheid in South Africa, the meaning of true forgiveness, and the profound philosophy of Ubuntu. Discover how Mpho carries on her father's legacy of peace and reconciliation while navigating her own journey as an Episcopalian priest and social activist. This heartfelt and enlightening conversation delves into the courage required to love, forgive, and build a just community. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The Desmond & Leah Tutu Legacy Foundation Forgiveness and Reparation: The Healing Journey by Mpho Tutu The Book of Forgiving by Desdmond Tutu and Mpho Tutu Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa Similar NSE episodes: Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Pádraig Ó Tuama: A Poet’s Work in Peace and Reconciliation PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https://w
Mon, February 24, 2025
Mpho Tutu van Furth: The Tutu Legacy of Forgiveness and Reconciliation
What does it mean to ask someone for forgiveness? The experience after Apartheid in South Africa has much to teach us. “In English, you say, ‘I’m sorry, forgive me.’ It’s all about me” Says Mpho Tutu van Furth, the daughter to the late Desmond Tutu. But in the South African language of Xhosa “You say ndicela uxolo which means ‘I ask for peace’. And that’s a very different thing than ‘forgive me’” In this episode, explore the deep impact of apartheid in South Africa, the meaning of true forgiveness, and the profound philosophy of Ubuntu. Discover how Mpho carries on her father's legacy of peace and reconciliation while navigating her own journey as an Episcopalian priest and social activist. This heartfelt and enlightening conversation delves into the courage required to love, forgive, and build a just community. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The Desmond & Leah Tutu Legacy Foundation Forgiveness and Reparation: The Healing Journey by Mpho Tutu The Book of Forgiving by Desdmond Tutu and Mpho Tutu Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa Similar NSE episodes: Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Pádraig Ó Tuama: A Poet’s Work in Peace and Reconciliation PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<a href="https://t
Bonus · Fri, February 21, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Russ Taff
This is our unabridged interview with Russ Taff. “I was 24 when I won my first Grammy,” says Russ Taff. “And within an hour, all the joy is gone.” Russ is a legend in Gospel music circles. His accolades include six Grammys, sixteen Doves, and three inductions into the GMA Hall of Fame for his work as a solo artist and a member of multiple bands. But underneath—his career, his success, and his past, almost broke him. In this episode, Russ gets vulnerable about his childhood trauma, his self-hatred, his alcoholism, and his long road to recovery and forgiveness. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Russ’s Website "Cover Story" by Russ Taff Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss Megan Barry: Addiction, Loss, Possibility Ashley Cleveland: Does This Make My Butt Look Big? PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
Mon, February 17, 2025
Russ Taff: Music, Addiction, and Redemption
“I was 24 when I won my first Grammy,” says Russ Taff. “And within an hour, all the joy is gone.” Russ is a legend in Gospel music circles. His accolades include six Grammys, sixteen Doves, and three inductions into the GMA Hall of Fame for his work as a solo artist and a member of multiple bands. But underneath—his career, his success, and his past, almost broke him. In this episode, Russ gets vulnerable about his childhood trauma, his self-hatred, his alcoholism, and his long road to recovery and forgiveness. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Russ’s Website "Cover Story" by Russ Taff Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss Megan Barry: Addiction, Loss, Possibility Ashley Cleveland: Does This Make My Butt Look Big? PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram |<a hre
Bonus · Fri, February 14, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Alexandra Solomon
This is our unabridged interview with Alexandra Solomon. Is your love life in need of a tune-up? Just in time for Valentine's Day, renowned relationship expert Dr. Alexandra Solomon joins us to share powerful insights from her book, "Loving Bravely." Discover how self-awareness and understanding your past can dramatically improve your present relationships. Dr. Solomon unpacks the secrets to thriving intimacy, from mastering the art of apology to staying truly present with your partner. Plus, get practical tools for navigating the inevitable challenges of long-term love. Tune in for this insightful conversation that will empower you to build stronger, more fulfilling relationships. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Reimagining Love Podcast “ Loving Bravely” by Alexandra Solomon Similar NSE episodes: Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: Lessons from the World’s Longest Scientific Study of Happiness PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Interview Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube <
Mon, February 10, 2025
Alexandra Solomon: How to Have Flourishing Relationships
Is your love life in need of a tune-up? Just in time for Valentine's Day, renowned relationship expert Dr. Alexandra Solomon joins us to share powerful insights from her book, "Loving Bravely." Discover how self-awareness and understanding your past can dramatically improve your present relationships. Dr. Solomon unpacks the secrets to thriving intimacy, from mastering the art of apology to staying truly present with your partner. Plus, get practical tools for navigating the inevitable challenges of long-term love. Tune in for this insightful conversation that will empower you to build stronger, more fulfilling relationships. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Reimagining Love Podcast “ Loving Bravely” by Alexandra Solomon Similar NSE episodes: Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: Lessons from the World’s Longest Scientific Study of Happiness PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram </
Bonus · Fri, February 07, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Shankar Vedantam
This is our unabridged interview with Shankar Vedantam. We all like to believe that we live our lives rationally, deliberately, consciously. But what if our conscious decision making is just the tip of the iceberg? “ I feel like I have a full picture of what's happening inside my own mind,” says Shankar Vedantam. But it turns out “there is a large portion of our mind that's working outside of our conscious awareness.” Shankar founded Hidden Brain Media in order to teach people what science has uncovered about our brains. In this episode, he discusses why we’re not as autonomous as we think we are, and the profound implications for the ways we act, think, and live. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Hidden Brain” by Shankar Vedantam Hidden Brain Website Shankar’s TED Talk Similar NSE episodes: Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Amishi Jha: Push-ups for Your Brain Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Interview Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook <
Mon, February 03, 2025
Shankar Vedantam: Hidden Brain
We all like to believe that we live our lives rationally, deliberately, consciously. But what if our conscious decision making is just the tip of the iceberg? “ I feel like I have a full picture of what's happening inside my own mind,” says Shankar Vedantam. But it turns out “there is a large portion of our mind that's working outside of our conscious awareness.” Shankar founded Hidden Brain Media in order to teach people what science has uncovered about our brains. In this episode, he discusses why we’re not as autonomous as we think we are, and the profound implications for the ways we act, think, and live. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Hidden Brain” by Shankar Vedantam Hidden Brain Website Shankar’s TED Talk Similar NSE episodes: Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Amishi Jha: Push-ups for Your Brain Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follo
Bonus · Fri, January 31, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Nadia Bolz-Weber
This is our unabridged interview with Nadia Bolz-Weber. “When I left the Christian Fundamentalism of my childhood, I became an activist.” Christian Fundamentalism is often looked down upon for its dualistic, black-and-white outlook, which is often used for policing behavior. But, Nadia Bolz-Weber explains, these are the same extreme tendencies that she found in secular activism after she left the church. Later in life, after working as a comedian and entering recovery, Nadia began to untangle the mindset that had taken her from one extreme to the other. Her long journey has since led her to becoming a Lutheran pastor and a three-time bestselling author. In this episode, she tells her story. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Shameless” by Nadia Bolz-Weber “Pastrix” by Nadia Bolz-Weber Similar NSE episodes: Philip Yancey: Where the Light Fell Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Musa al-Gharbi: We Have Never Been Woke Suzanne Stabile: Exploring the Enneagram PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Interview Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Faceb
Mon, January 27, 2025
Nadia Bolz-Weber: From Fundamentalism to Stand-up Comedy to Ordained Pastor
“When I left the Christian Fundamentalism of my childhood, I became an activist.” Christian Fundamentalism is often looked down upon for its dualistic, black-and-white outlook, which is often used for policing behavior. But, Nadia Bolz-Weber explains, these are the same extreme tendencies that she found in secular activism after she left the church. Later in life, after working as a comedian and entering recovery, Nadia began to untangle the mindset that had taken her from one extreme to the other. Her long journey has since led her to becoming a Lutheran pastor and a three-time bestselling author. In this episode, she tells her story. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Shameless” by Nadia Bolz-Weber “Pastrix” by Nadia Bolz-Weber Similar NSE episodes: Philip Yancey: Where the Light Fell Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Musa al-Gharbi: We Have Never Been Woke Suzanne Stabile: Exploring the Enneagram PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube </str
Bonus · Fri, January 24, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Esau McCaulley
This is our unabridged interview with Esau McCaulley. What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” In this episode, Esau discusses what he uncovered from a season of digging deeply into family and national history, and describes what the experience taught him about race, faith, and the culture of the South in the United States. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “How Far to the Promised” Land by Esau McCaulley Similar NSE episodes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho White Too Long: Robert Jones PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Interview Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <st
Mon, January 20, 2025
Esau McCaulley: How Far to the Promised Land? (Best of NSE)
What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” In this episode, Esau discusses what he uncovered from a season of digging deeply into family and national history, and describes what the experience taught him about race, faith, and the culture of the South in the United States. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “How Far to the Promised” Land by Esau McCaulley Similar NSE episodes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho White Too Long: Robert Jones PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:<a href="https://www.instag
Bonus · Fri, January 17, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Tom Paxton
This is our unabridged interview with Tom Paxton. In the 1960s, during the folk music revival in a neighborhood of New York City called Greenwich Village, a small cafe called the Gaslight hosted many singer-songwriters who were up-and-coming at the time. You might know some of their names, like Bob Dylan and Dave Van Ronk. Among the regulars there was Tom Paxton, who, 60 years and 50 albums later, is still writing and performing folk songs that bear witness to profound societal truths. In this episode, hear from Tom what it was like to perform during those days, what role folk music plays in stirring up the status quo, and thoughts on vulnerability, notoriety, grief, an Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Tom’s Website Doc Watson and Dolly Parton - Merlefest 2001 Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad: Vulnerable Art Transcript of Abridged Interview Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmalle
Mon, January 13, 2025
Tom Paxton: Greenwich Village, Folk Music, and 60 Years of Song
In the 1960s, during the folk music revival in a neighborhood of New York City called Greenwich Village, a small cafe called the Gaslight hosted many singer-songwriters who were up-and-coming at the time. You might know some of their names, like Bob Dylan and Dave Van Ronk. Among the regulars there was Tom Paxton, who, 60 years and 50 albums later, is still writing and performing folk songs that bear witness to profound societal truths. In this episode, hear from Tom what it was like to perform during those days, what role folk music plays in stirring up the status quo, and thoughts on vulnerability, notoriety, grief, an Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Tom’s Website Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad: Vulnerable Art Transcription Link This episode of No Small Endeavor is sponsored by Dwell—the audio bible app. To get 25% off your subscription visit dwellbible.com/nse Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List:<a href="https://nosmallendeavor.com/
Bonus · Fri, January 10, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Makoto Fujimura
This is our unabridged interview with Makoto Fujimura. Makoto Fujimura occupies an unusual intersection of personal realities: He is an abstract expressionist artist who discovered his Christian faith as an art student in Japan. He continually finds himself trying to bridge the divide between religion and art. “I can't really talk about my faith with my artist friends, and I can't talk about art with my Christian friends,” he says. “But for me, it's never been that way.” In this episode, he talks about how he uses traditional Japanese methods of painting — “slow art,” as he calls it — to explore grief, brokenness, and healing. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Art and Faith: A Theology of Making” by Makoto Fujimura ( Yale University Press ) Examples of Mako’s Paintings The Four Holy Gospels "Silence" by Shūsaku Endō Similar NSE episodes: Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad: Vulnerable Art Christian Wiman: Poetry Against Despair Poetry as Politics: Poet Laureates Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe Transcript of Abridged Interview This episode of No Small Endeavor is sponsored by Dwell—the audio bible app. To get 25% off your subscription visit dwellbible.com/nse Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <stron
Wed, January 08, 2025
NSE Presents: A Breach Repairer’s Song
Today we want to share a new podcast. In a world shaped by division, music has the power to bring people together. The new podcast, “A Breach Repairer’s Song” uncovers the harmonies of repair and reconciliation, sharing stories of those who use music to inspire change and heal broken spaces. Hosted by Yara Allen and Reverend Dr. William J. Barber II, the show explores the transformative power of song, activism, and justice. The next thing you’ll hear is the first episode of the series, The Power of Music in Social Movements. If you like what you hear, search for “A Breach Repairer’s Song” wherever you’re listening to us and follow the show for more episodes. Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Mon, January 06, 2025
Makoto Fujimura: Art and Faith
Makoto Fujimura occupies an unusual intersection of personal realities: He is an abstract expressionist artist who discovered his Christian faith as an art student in Japan. He continually finds himself trying to bridge the divide between religion and art. “I can't really talk about my faith with my artist friends, and I can't talk about art with my Christian friends,” he says. “But for me, it's never been that way.” In this episode, he talks about how he uses traditional Japanese methods of painting — “slow art,” as he calls it — to explore grief, brokenness, and healing. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Art and Faith: A Theology of Making” by Makoto Fujimura ( Yale University Press ) Examples of Mako’s Paintings The Four Holy Gospels "Silence" by Shūsaku Endō Similar NSE episodes: Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad: Vulnerable Art Christian Wiman: Poetry Against Despair Poetry as Politics: Poet Laureates Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe Transcription Link This episode of No Small Endeavor is sponsored by Dwell—the audio bible app. To get 25% off your subscription visit dwellbible.com/nse Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitt
Bonus · Fri, January 03, 2025
Unabridged Interview: Oliver Burkeman
This is our unabridged interview with Oliver Burkeman. In an age full of lifehacks, self-help books, and productivity gurus, many of us only end up busier and more stressed than we were before. What if there’s a better way to live a full, fruitful life? "The world is bursting with wonder,” says Oliver Burkeman, “and yet it's the rare productivity guru who seems to have considered the possibility that the ultimate point of all our frenetic doing might be to experience more of that wonder." In this episode, he discusses his New York Times Bestselling book 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals , dispelling many contemporary ideas about productivity, and instead suggesting a wonder-fueled, counterintuitive method for flourishing in the world. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Four Thousand Weeks" by Oliver Burkeman "The Antidote" by Oliver Burkeman “ A Testament of Devotion” by Thomas Raymond Kelly Catherine Andrews, " Why You're Going About Recovering from Perfectionism All Wrong " Similar NSE episodes: Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life: Rebecca DeYoung The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer The Power of Sabbath Rest: Judith Shulevitz PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Interview This episode of No Small Endeavor is sponsored by Dwell—the audio bible app. To get 25% off your subscription visit dwellbible.com/nse Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follo
Mon, December 30, 2024
Oliver Burkeman: In The New Year Embrace Wonder Not Productivity
In an age full of lifehacks, self-help books, and productivity gurus, many of us only end up busier and more stressed than we were before. What if there’s a better way to live a full, fruitful life? "The world is bursting with wonder,” says Oliver Burkeman, “and yet it's the rare productivity guru who seems to have considered the possibility that the ultimate point of all our frenetic doing might be to experience more of that wonder." In this episode, he discusses his New York Times Bestselling book 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals , dispelling many contemporary ideas about productivity, and instead suggesting a wonder-fueled, counterintuitive method for flourishing in the world. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Four Thousand Weeks" by Oliver Burkeman "The Antidote" by Oliver Burkeman “ A Testament of Devotion” by Thomas Raymond Kelly Catherine Andrews, " Why You're Going About Recovering from Perfectionism All Wrong " “ Man’s Search for Meaning” by Victor Frankl Similar NSE episodes: Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life: Rebecca DeYoung The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer The Power of Sabbath Rest: Judith Shulevitz PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="https:
Bonus · Fri, December 27, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Kelly Corrigan
This is our unabridged interview with Kelly Corrigan. “What percentage of all pain in the world is related to wanting to belong?” Kelly Corrigan - who you may know as a New York Times bestselling author and the host of a number of popular radio and TV shows - was a young mother of two when she and her beloved father were both diagnosed with cancer. It was, to say the least, an immensely difficult time. Yet, she found her way through it by relying heavily on her tendency to be vulnerable, rather than hiding her pain from others. “It's just fodder for us to be closer,” she says of her suffering. “The point is to connect.” In this episode, she shares her story, along with much wisdom gleaned from a life of leaning into vulnerability. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Tell Me More” by Kelly Corrigan “The Middle Place” by Kelly Corrigan “Tell Me More” on PBS Kelly Corrigan Wonders Podcast Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="https://www.facebook.com/NoSm
Thu, December 26, 2024
Kelly Corrigan: The Power of Vulnerability
“What percentage of all pain in the world is related to wanting to belong?” Kelly Corrigan - who you may know as a New York Times bestselling author and the host of a number of popular radio and TV shows - was a young mother of two when she and her beloved father were both diagnosed with cancer. It was, to say the least, an immensely difficult time. Yet, she found her way through it by relying heavily on her tendency to be vulnerable, rather than hiding her pain from others. “It's just fodder for us to be closer,” she says of her suffering. “The point is to connect.” In this episode, she shares her story, along with much wisdom gleaned from a life of leaning into vulnerability. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: “Tell Me More” by Kelly Corrigan “The Middle Place” by Kelly Corrigan “Tell Me More” on PBS Kelly Corrigan Wonders Podcast Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/token
Bonus · Tue, December 24, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Meghan Sullivan
This is our unabridged interview with Meghan Sullivan. What does it mean to live a good life, and how do we start? On our show, we make it a habit of repeating our tagline: “Exploring what it means to live a good life.” But in this episode, we address the issue head-on, with the help of Notre Dame Professor of Philosophy Meghan Sullivan. We discuss her book “The Good Life Method,” which gives helpful insight about the kinds of questions philosophers and theologians have been asking for millennia: What does it mean to pursue a life worth living? What sort of end ought we keep in mind in all our doing and living and being? And how might we get there? Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: " The Good Life Method" by Meghan Sullivan "On Bullshit" by Harry G. Frankfurt “The Will To Believe” by William James Similar NSE episodes: Edith Hall: How Ancient Wisdom Can Change Your Life Charles Duhigg: The Power of Habit Rebecca DeYoung: The Seven Deadly Sins Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: The Good Life PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a
Thu, December 19, 2024
Meghan Sullivan: What It Takes to Live a Good Life
What does it mean to live a good life, and how do we start? On our show, we make it a habit of repeating our tagline: “Exploring what it means to live a good life.” But in this episode, we address the issue head-on, with the help of Notre Dame Professor of Philosophy Meghan Sullivan. We discuss her book “The Good Life Method,” which gives helpful insight about the kinds of questions philosophers and theologians have been asking for millennia: What does it mean to pursue a life worth living? What sort of end ought we keep in mind in all our doing and living and being? And how might we get there? Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: " The Good Life Method" by Meghan Sullivan "On Bullshit" by Harry G. Frankfurt “The Will To Believe” by William James Similar NSE episodes: Edith Hall: How Ancient Wisdom Can Change Your Life Charles Duhigg: The Power of Habit Rebecca DeYoung: The Seven Deadly Sins Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: The Good Life PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<
Bonus · Tue, December 17, 2024
Unabridged Interview: The Hillbilly Thomists
This is our unabridged interview with The Hillbilly Thomists. There aren’t many Billboard-charting bluegrass bands made up entirely of Catholic Dominican Friars, who play their shows clad in white tunics and rosaries. In fact, there is precisely one such band: the Hillbilly Thomists. “A Thomist is someone who follows the thought and theological teaching of Saint Thomas Aquinas,” they explain. “We combine it with a little bit of humor about our human condition.” In this episode, they talk about their theology and vocation, as well as how they manage life on the road as priests who have taken a vow of poverty. Plus, they give live performances of some of their finest songs. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The Hillbilly Thomists’ Website Similar NSE episodes: N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry Edith Hall: How Ancient Wisdom Can Change Your Life Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https:/
Thu, December 12, 2024
The Hillbilly Thomists: Bourbon, Bluegrass, and the Bible
There aren’t many Billboard-charting bluegrass bands made up entirely of Catholic Dominican Friars, who play their shows clad in white tunics and rosaries. In fact, there is precisely one such band: the Hillbilly Thomists. “A Thomist is someone who follows the thought and theological teaching of Saint Thomas Aquinas,” they explain. “We combine it with a little bit of humor about our human condition.” In this episode, they talk about their theology and vocation, as well as how they manage life on the road as priests who have taken a vow of poverty. Plus, they give live performances of some of their finest songs. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The Hillbilly Thomists’ Website Similar NSE episodes: N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry Edith Hall: How Ancient Wisdom Can Change Your Life Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<a href="https://twit
Bonus · Tue, December 10, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Audrey Assad
This is our unabridged interview with Audrey Assad. “Why shouldn’t I question that?” This was the question that started Audrey Assad on a journey away from the faith of her childhood and early adulthood. It’s a question that, years later, is still a guiding light for her towards healing and truth-seeking. But asking such questions after years as an acclaimed singer-songwriter in the Christian music industry comes at a cost. Today, Audrey discusses her unreleased memoir “Doubt Becomes Wonder: Embracing the Loss of Everything You Thought You Knew.” They discuss healing from childhood wounds, the consequent navigation of doubt, and Audrey’s experience as a woman in the church. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Audrey’s website "The Body Keeps the Score" by Bessel van der Kolk Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Joy Oladokun: Listen, Love, and Turn the Other Cheek Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twit
Thu, December 05, 2024
Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad: Vulnerable Art
“Sometimes artists have to take a chance and be vulnerable.” Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad are two such artists, whose brilliance is in large part due to their vulnerability. Drew was once heralded by Rolling Stone as “one of Americana’s most popular stars,” and yet he is quick to note that “the human heart was not built for notoriety.” He describes the complex road he took to full-time artistry, his relationship with his fans, the tragic loss of his brother, and more. Audrey found success in the Christian music industry, until her quest for authenticity and truth led her in a new direction. She shares her story, speaking honestly about traumas and doubts that brought her to where she is now. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Drew’s website Audrey’s website "The Body Keeps the Score" by Bessel van der Kolk Similar NSE episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Joy Oladokun: Listen, Love, and Turn the Other Cheek Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: I
Bonus · Tue, December 03, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Peter Levine
This is our unabridged interview with Peter Levine. “In order to really move through trauma,” says Peter Levine, “we have to do that in the body.” As a psychologist with much of his own trauma to work through, Peter has spent his career researching ways to help himself and others come to healing and wholeness. In this episode, he discusses his memoir “An Autobiography of Trauma,” in which he uses his own life story to illustrate his findings. From a standing meeting with an imagined Albert Einstein, to a host of life-changing dreams, listen as he shares how both his professional research and mystical personal experience have taught him much about the ways our bodies hold trauma, and how we can learn to pay attention to our lives and find healing. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "An Autobiography of Trauma: A Healing Journey" by Peter Levine "Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma" by Peter Levine Similar NSE episodes: Amishi Jha: Push-ups for Your Brain Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance Curt Thompson: The Soul of Shame PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="https://www.facebook.com/
Thu, November 28, 2024
Peter Levine: How the Body Holds and Heals Trauma
“In order to really move through trauma,” says Peter Levine, “we have to do that in the body.” As a psychologist with much of his own trauma to work through, Peter has spent his career researching ways to help himself and others come to healing and wholeness. In this episode, he discusses his memoir “An Autobiography of Trauma,” in which he uses his own life story to illustrate his findings. From a standing meeting with an imagined Albert Einstein, to a host of life-changing dreams, listen as he shares how both his professional research and mystical personal experience have taught him much about the ways our bodies hold trauma, and how we can learn to pay attention to our lives and find healing. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "An Autobiography of Trauma: A Healing Journey" by Peter Levine "Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma" by Peter Levine Similar NSE episodes: Amishi Jha: Push-ups for Your Brain Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance Curt Thompson: The Soul of Shame PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/
Bonus · Tue, November 26, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Malcolm Gladwell
This is our unabridged interview with Malcolm Gladwell and Tracy K. Smith To prepare for family dinners and political conversations this holiday season, two guests offer us new ways of being humble and curious. First, well-known thinker and author Malcolm Gladwell reveals why we must learn humility if we are to understand each other. “Humility is a habit,” he says. “Habit is a really important word, because if it's a habit, it means it's something that you have to practice.” Then, former U.S. Poet Laureate Tracy K. Smith offers powerful poems that invite us to acknowledge the full, complex, and beautiful worth of the human beings we encounter. In this episode, listen closely for multiple ways we can cultivate humility, be curious, and have compassion despite our disagreements and differences. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference" by Malcolm Gladwell Similar NSE episodes: Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe: Poetry as Politics Thanksgiving Special: Conversation and Gratitude Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | <strong
Thu, November 21, 2024
Malcolm Gladwell and Tracy K. Smith: Can Curiosity Save Your Holidays?
To prepare for family dinners and political conversations this holiday season, two guests offer us new ways of being humble and curious. First, well-known thinker and author Malcolm Gladwell reveals why we must learn humility if we are to understand each other. “Humility is a habit,” he says. “Habit is a really important word, because if it's a habit, it means it's something that you have to practice.” Then, former U.S. Poet Laureate Tracy K. Smith offers powerful poems that invite us to acknowledge the full, complex, and beautiful worth of the human beings we encounter. In this episode, listen closely for multiple ways we can cultivate humility, be curious, and have compassion despite our disagreements and differences. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference" by Malcolm Gladwell "Wade in the Water: Poems" by Tracy K. Smith Similar NSE episodes: Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe: Poetry as Politics Thanksgiving Special: Conversation and Gratitude Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | <str
Bonus · Tue, November 19, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Kathryn Gin Lum
This is our unabridged interview with Kathryn Gin Lum. When is the last time you heard the word “heathen”? The word was originally used to delineate between European Christians who tended to be in urban centers and pagans in rural areas. “Heathen exists in the mind of the person doing the labeling, right? It's a label that one people foists onto another.” Our guest today, Kathryn Gin Lum, walks us through the history of the term heathen and how it has utterly shaped the world. We discuss her book Heathen: Religion and Race in American History. The idea behind the term was wielded as a weapon to justify colonization and enslavement, and though the term has fallen out of use, she says the mental map of the world it has created has not. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Heathen: Religion and Race in American History" by Kathryn Gin Lum "The Origin of Others (The Charles Eliot Norton Lectures)" by Toni Morrison Similar NSE episodes: Willie James Jennings: The Christian Imagination Eugene Cho Karen Korematsu: Fear, Home and the Asian-American Experience PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Interview Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/leec
Thu, November 14, 2024
Kathryn Gin Lum: How The Label Heathen Shaped the World
When is the last time you heard the word “heathen”? The word was originally used to delineate between European Christians who tended to be in urban centers and pagans in rural areas. “Heathen exists in the mind of the person doing the labeling, right? It's a label that one people foists onto another.” Our guest today, Kathryn Gin Lum, walks us through the history of the term heathen and how it has utterly shaped the world. We discuss her book Heathen: Religion and Race in American History. The idea behind the term was wielded as a weapon to justify colonization and enslavement, and though the term has fallen out of use, she says the mental map of the world it has created has not. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Heathen: Religion and Race in American History" by Kathryn Gin Lum "The Origin of Others (The Charles Eliot Norton Lectures)" by Toni Morrison Similar NSE episodes: Willie James Jennings: The Christian Imagination Eugene Cho and Karen Korematsu: Fear, Home and the Asian-American Experience PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | <str
Bonus · Tue, November 12, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Tim Shriver
This is our unabridged interview with Tim Shriver. On social media and the news, the narrative told about humanity is often one of violence, division, and dehumanization. But is that really who we are? Tim Shriver, best-selling author and chairman of the Special Olympics, doesn’t think so. “My view,” he says, “is that the versions of our lives that most of us lead most days are much more hopeful.” As the nephew of John F. Kennedy, Tim has known great privilege and great grief. As an educator and social worker, he has seen the countless ways that humans defy stereotypes and give grace and hope to one another. In this episode, he talks about why his life and career have led him to the conclusion that the key to a happy life is to live it for the flourishing of others. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Fully Alive: Discovering What Matters Most" by Tim Shriver Tim's Website "Need a Lift?" Podcast Similar NSE episodes: Greg Boyle: Cherished Belonging Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Ben Cohen: Peace, Justice, Ice Cream PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram
Thu, November 07, 2024
Tim Shriver: Living Life for Others
On social media and the news, the narrative told about humanity is often one of violence, division, and dehumanization. But is that really who we are? Tim Shriver, best-selling author and chairman of the Special Olympics, doesn’t think so. “My view,” he says, “is that the versions of our lives that most of us lead most days are much more hopeful.” As the nephew of John F. Kennedy, Tim has known great privilege and great grief. As an educator and social worker, he has seen the countless ways that humans defy stereotypes and give grace and hope to one another. In this episode, he talks about why his life and career have led him to the conclusion that the key to a happy life is to live it for the flourishing of others. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Fully Alive: Discovering What Matters Most" by Tim Shriver Tim's Website "Need a Lift?" Podcast Similar NSE episodes: Greg Boyle: Cherished Belonging Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Ben Cohen: Peace, Justice, Ice Cream PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our
Bonus · Tue, November 05, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Philip Mangano
This is our unabridged interview with Philip Mangano. Is homelessness a problem that can be solved? Historically, efforts made to address homelessness in the US have taken a symptom-management approach, focusing on soup kitchens, clothing drives, and medical programs. But these well-intentioned efforts often have a paradoxical effect: over time, they end up serving more and more homeless people, rather than reducing the number of those unhoused. In this episode, Philip Mangano describes his longtime effort to approach homelessness in a new way. “I took the abolitionist frame,” he says of his renowned Housing-First Initiative. “People were homeless, so the antidote must be a place to live.” Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell "Good to Great" by Jim Collins "The Innovator’s Dilemma" by Clayton Christensen Similar NSE episodes: Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm Charlie Strobel: Remembering a Life Well Lived Musa al-Gharbi: We Have Never Been Woke James Lawson: The Architect of the United States Civil Rights Movement PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="https://www.facebook.co
Thu, October 31, 2024
Philip Mangano: Abolishing Homelessness
Is homelessness a problem that can be solved? Historically, efforts made to address homelessness in the US have taken a symptom-management approach, focusing on soup kitchens, clothing drives, and medical programs. But these well-intentioned efforts often have a paradoxical effect: over time, they end up serving more and more homeless people, rather than reducing the number of those unhoused. In this episode, Philip Mangano describes his longtime effort to approach homelessness in a new way. “I took the abolitionist frame,” he says of his renowned Housing-First Initiative. “People were homeless, so the antidote must be a place to live.” Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell "Good to Great" by Jim Collins "The Innovator’s Dilemma" by Clayton Christensen Similar NSE episodes: Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm Charlie Strobel: Remembering a Life Well Lived Musa al-Gharbi: We Have Never Been Woke James Lawson: The Architect of the United States Civil Rights Movement PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/
Bonus · Tue, October 29, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Christian Wiman
This is our unabridged interview with Christian Wiman. “Suffering, I think, catalyzes an intimacy that couldn't happen otherwise.” Christian Wiman, renowned poet and teacher at Yale Divinity School, does not say these words flippantly. Two decades ago, he was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer and given a life expectancy of five years. He has lived the past twenty years in the shadow of death and the grip of despair. In this episode, while discussing his recent memoir “Zero at the Bone: Fifty Entries Against Despair,” Christian explores faith, doubt, joy, and sorrow in the way only a great poet can, taking the stuff of life - the mundane, confusing, chaotic, and tragic - and making meaning out of it. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Zero at the Bone" by Christian Wiman "My Bright Abyss" by Christian Wiman Similar NSE episodes: Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Pádraig Ó Tuama: A Poet’s Work in Peace and Reconciliation Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days Angela Williams Gorrell and Miroslav Volf: On Joy and Sorrow Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram |<a h
Thu, October 24, 2024
Christian Wiman: Poetry Against Despair
“Suffering, I think, catalyzes an intimacy that couldn't happen otherwise.” Christian Wiman, renowned poet and teacher at Yale Divinity School, does not say these words flippantly. Two decades ago, he was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer and given a life expectancy of five years. He has lived the past twenty years in the shadow of death and the grip of despair. In this episode, while discussing his recent memoir “Zero at the Bone: Fifty Entries Against Despair,” Christian explores faith, doubt, joy, and sorrow in the way only a great poet can, taking the stuff of life - the mundane, confusing, chaotic, and tragic - and making meaning out of it. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Zero at the Bone" by Christian Wiman "My Bright Abyss" by Christian Wiman Similar NSE episodes: Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Pádraig Ó Tuama: A Poet’s Work in Peace and Reconciliation Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days Angela Williams Gorrell and Miroslav Volf: On Joy and Sorrow Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
Bonus · Tue, October 22, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Russell Moore and David French
This is our unabridged interview with Russell Moore and David French. For the last decade of American political discourse, both the Left and the Right have each been developing fierce tribalism, in which it is increasingly costly for one to wage critique at one’s own group. Threats of canceling, doxing, and worse are everyday occurrences for those who speak out of step with their party. Russell Moore and David French have been in the dangerous business of insider critique for a while. As conservative Christians, their criticism of the Right (specifically of Donald Trump) has cost them friends, careers, and safety. In this episode, they discuss why they continue to do the work they do, offering insight on the landscape of politics and religion, and how we might re-frame the way we do discourse. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The After Party "The After Party: Toward Better Christian Politics" Similar NSE episodes: Tim Alberta: The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French David French: Conservatism Without Trumpism Russell Moore: Against, and For, the Tribe PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<a href="https://twitter.c
Thu, October 17, 2024
Russell Moore and David French: How Should Christians Do Politics?
For the last decade of American political discourse, both the Left and the Right have each been developing fierce tribalism, in which it is increasingly costly for one to wage critique at one’s own group. Threats of canceling, doxing, and worse are everyday occurrences for those who speak out of step with their party. Russell Moore and David French have been in the dangerous business of insider critique for a while. As conservative Christians, their criticism of the Right (specifically of Donald Trump) has cost them friends, careers, and safety. In this episode, they discuss why they continue to do the work they do, offering insight on the landscape of politics and religion, and how we might re-frame the way we do discourse. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The After Party "The After Party: Toward Better Christian Politics" Similar NSE episodes: Tim Alberta: The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French David French: Conservatism Without Trumpism Russell Moore: Against, and For, the Tribe PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <str
Bonus · Tue, October 15, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Musa al-Gharbi
This is our unabridged interview with Musa al-Gharbi. Society has never been more focused on equality and diversity… right? The last few decades have been marked by a drastic increase in what often gets labeled “social justice.” Companies and individuals perpetually take very public vows to defend progressive values and denounce all kinds of injustice. But somehow, in spite of all this, social and economic inequalities have only worsened. How is this possible? “The fundamental tension,” argues Musa al-Gharbi, “is that while a lot of us are committed to social justice, we also really want to be elites.” Musa makes the case that an excess of public symbolic gestures has created a backwards world where justice is preached but rarely done, offering a sharp critique of the ways many of us, on all sides of politics and culture, have used social justice as a subtle way to serve ourselves. Show Notes Resources: "We Have Never Been Woke" by Musa al-Gharbi Similar NSE episodes: Eboo Patel: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy Patrick Deneen: Why Liberalism Failed Ben Cohen and Jay Jakub: Ben and Jerry’s and a Better Capitalism Christian Miller: We’re Not as Good (or Bad) as We Think We Are PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/
Thu, October 10, 2024
Musa al-Gharbi: We Have Never Been Woke
*** Vote for us to win a Signal Award. Society has never been more focused on equality and diversity… right? The last few decades have been marked by a drastic increase in what often gets labeled “social justice.” Companies and individuals perpetually take very public vows to defend progressive values and denounce all kinds of injustice. But somehow, in spite of all this, social and economic inequalities have only worsened. How is this possible? “The fundamental tension,” argues Musa al-Gharbi, “is that while a lot of us are committed to social justice, we also really want to be elites.” Musa makes the case that an excess of public symbolic gestures has created a backwards world where justice is preached but rarely done, offering a sharp critique of the ways many of us, on all sides of politics and culture, have used social justice as a subtle way to serve ourselves. Show Notes Resources mentioned: "We Have Never Been Woke" by Musa al-Gharbi Similar NSE episodes: Eboo Patel: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy Patrick Deneen: Why Liberalism Failed Ben Cohen and Jay Jakub: Ben and Jerry’s and a Better Capitalism Christian Miller: We’re Not as Good (or Bad) as We Think We Are PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https://www.i
Bonus · Tue, October 08, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley
This is our unabridged interview with Carissa Carter & Scott Doorley. We live in an era of runaway design, where tech that seemed to solve our problems has gone on to cause unintended consequences. Think about social media’s effect on our collective mental health. Or the once miraculous material known as plastic becoming an environmental hazard. But we can’t predict the future, so what can we do? In this episode, designers from Stanford’s d.school, Carissa Carter & Scott Doorley, discuss their book “Assembling Tomorrow,” which thinks uniquely about design and offers ideas and practices for building and engaging with technology in a way that helps us flourish. Show Notes Resources: "Assembling Tomorrow" by Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley "The Technological Society" by Jacques Ellul Similar NSE episodes: Anna Lembke and John Mark Comer: The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure Meghan O’Gieblyn: Will AI Destroy Humanity? David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:<a hr
Thu, October 03, 2024
Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley: Assembling Tomorrow
We live in an era of runaway design, where tech that once seemed to solve all of our problems has gone on to cause unintended consequences. Think about social media’s effect on our collective mental health. Or the once miraculous material known as plastic becoming an environmental hazard. But we can’t predict the future, so what can we do? In this episode, designers from Stanford’s d.school, Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley, discuss their book “Assembling Tomorrow,” which thinks quite uniquely about design and offers ideas and practices for building and engaging with technology in a way that helps us flourish. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Assembling Tomorrow" by Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley "The Technological Society" by Jacques Ellul Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Anna Lembke and John Mark Comer: The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure Meghan O’Gieblyn: Will AI Destroy Humanity? David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: I
Bonus · Tue, October 01, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Greg Boyle
This is our unabridged interview with Greg Boyle. How do you become truly loving? Father Greg Boyle teaches us to go to the margins. “You don't go to the margins to make a difference. You go so the folks at the margins make you different.” In the 80s and 90s, the city of Los Angeles was ravaged by what is now known as the "decade of death," a period of unprecedented gang violence, peaking at 1000 killings in 1992 alone. It was in the midst of this that Greg Boyle became pastor of the poorest Catholic parish in the city, in order to live and work amongst gang members. He started Homeboy Industries, now the largest gang-member rehabilitation program in the world. In this episode, he tells some breathtaking stories, offering wisdom from a life lived in community with those who society neglects. Notes Resources: "Cherished Belonging" by Greg Boyle "Tattoos on the Heart" by Greg Boyle "Barking to the Choir" by Greg Boyle Homeboy Industries Similar NSE episodes: John Dear: Taking the Beatitudes Seriously Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Pádraig Ó Tuama: The Facts of Life Transcript JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram</stro
Thu, September 26, 2024
Greg Boyle: Cherished Belonging (Best of NSE)
How do you become truly loving? Father Greg Boyle teaches us to go to the margins. “You don't go to the margins to make a difference. You go so the folks at the margins make you different.” In the 80s and 90s, the city of Los Angeles was ravaged by what is now known as the "decade of death," a period of unprecedented gang violence, peaking at 1000 killings in 1992 alone. It was in the midst of this that Greg Boyle became pastor of the poorest Catholic parish in the city, in order to live and work amongst gang members. He started Homeboy Industries, now the largest gang-member rehabilitation program in the world. In this episode, he tells some breathtaking stories, offering wisdom from a life lived in community with those who society neglects. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Cherished Belonging" by Greg Boyle "Tattoos on the Heart" by Greg Boyle "Barking to the Choir" by Greg Boyle Homeboy Industries Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: John Dear: Taking the Beatitudes Seriously Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Pádraig Ó Tuama: The Facts of Life Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/"
Bonus · Tue, September 24, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Meghan O’Gieblyn
This is our unabridged interview with Meghan O’Gieblyn. Will technology change what it means to be human? Thanks to the rise and implementation of Artificial Intelligence (AI), the common sci-fi trope of a machine-perpetuated apocalypse has taken on a new gravity in recent days. But is Chat GPT really going to rebel against humans, or even change things very much at all? “We're at the point where we do have technologies that are incredibly powerful,” says writer and commentator Meghan O’Gieblyn. “They're able to do things that they weren't programmed to do.” In this episode, Meghan discusses AI in great detail, and lays out what she believes to be the social, political, ethical, and even theological issues at stake as humanity learns to live with new technology. Show Notes Resources: Meghan’s Website ' God, Human, Animal, Machine' by Meghan O’Gieblyn Similar NSE Episodes: The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke The Most Polarized Issue in the United States: Katharine Hayhoe Beyond Fake News: Justin McBrayer PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Fol
Thu, September 19, 2024
Meghan O’Gieblyn: Technology and Humanity (Best of NSE)
Will technology change what it means to be human? Thanks to the rise and implementation of Artificial Intelligence (AI), the common sci-fi trope of a machine-perpetuated apocalypse has taken on a new gravity in recent days. But is Chat GPT really going to rebel against humans, or even change things very much at all? “We're at the point where we do have technologies that are incredibly powerful,” says writer and commentator Meghan O’Gieblyn. “They're able to do things that they weren't programmed to do.” In this episode, Meghan discusses AI in great detail, and lays out what she believes to be the social, political, ethical, and even theological issues at stake as humanity learns to live with new technology. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Meghan’s Website ' God, Human, Animal, Machine' by Meghan O’Gieblyn Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke The Most Polarized Issue in the United States: Katharine Hayhoe Beyond Fake News: Justin McBrayer PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instag
Bonus · Tue, September 17, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
This is our unabridged interview with Ayana Elizabeth Johnson. How can you respond to climate change with joy? Those two words—climate change—can fill us with a sense of dread, anxiety, and doom. Those advocating action are often fueled by a sense of breakneck urgency. But for many, such an outlook isn’t motivating. It’s paralyzing. But what if there was another way filled with joy and satisfaction? “This is the work of our lifetime,” says Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, “so why don't we find ways to make it delightful?” In this episode, she explains why the climate crisis is no less dire than the news makes it seem, but why climate activism must be done with hope and joy to be sustainable. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: " What If We Get It Right" by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson GetItRight.Earth Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Debra Reinstra: Healing the Earth Bill McKibben: The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon Katharine Hayhoe: The Most Polarized Issue in the United States PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram |<a hr
Thu, September 12, 2024
Ayana Elizabeth Johnson: What If We Get Climate Action Right?
How can you respond to climate change with joy? Those two words—climate change—can fill us with a sense of dread, anxiety, and doom. Those advocating action are often fueled by a sense of breakneck urgency. But for many, such an outlook isn’t motivating. It’s paralyzing. But what if there was another way filled with joy and satisfaction? “This is the work of our lifetime,” says Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, “so why don't we find ways to make it delightful?” In this episode, she explains why the climate crisis is no less dire than the news makes it seem, but why climate activism must be done with hope and joy to be sustainable. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: " What If We Get It Right" by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson GetItRight.Earth Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Debra Reinstra: Healing the Earth Bill McKibben: The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon Katharine Hayhoe: The Most Polarized Issue in the United States PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <str
Bonus · Tue, September 10, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Edith Hall
This is our unabridged interview with Edith Hall. What if you’re wrong about what it means to be happy? In spite of unprecedented access to things that give pleasure - buy this pill, eat this food, go on this trip - mental health issues are increasing globally at an astonishing rate. It’s clear that the modern idea of happiness is lacking something. In this episode, Edith Hall offers an ancient definition of happiness from Aristotle that might just be the solution to our crisis of despair. “It’s a way of life, it's not a psychological state,” she says. “To live well…submit yourself to your own best self, and don't let transient temptations derail you.” Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode: Aristotle’s Way by Edith Hall Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Jeffrey Rosen: The Pursuit of Happiness Meghan Sullivan: What It Takes to Live a Good Life Gretchen Rubin: The Happiness Project Rebecca DeYoung: The Seven Deadly Sins Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript of Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: In
Thu, September 05, 2024
Edith Hall: How Ancient Wisdom can Change Your Life (Best of NSE)
What if you’re wrong about what it means to be happy? In spite of unprecedented access to things that give pleasure - buy this pill, eat this food, go on this trip - mental health issues are increasing globally at an astonishing rate. It’s clear that the modern idea of happiness is lacking something. In this episode, Edith Hall offers an ancient definition of happiness from Aristotle that might just be the solution to our crisis of despair. “It’s a way of life, it's not a psychological state,” she says. “To live well…submit yourself to your own best self, and don't let transient temptations derail you.” Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode: Aristotle’s Way by Edith Hall Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Jeffrey Rosen: The Pursuit of Happiness Meghan Sullivan: What It Takes to Live a Good Life Gretchen Rubin: The Happiness Project Rebecca DeYoung: The Seven Deadly Sins Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<a href="htt
Bonus · Tue, September 03, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Cyntoia Brown Long
This is our unabridged interview with Cyntoia Brown Long. On August 7th, 2019, Cyntoia Brown Long was released from the Tennessee Prison for Women. It was 13 years after she had been sentenced to life without parole for the murder of a man to whom she had been sex-trafficked. In this special episode, Cyntoia tells an uncensored account of the great personal and systemic brokenness which led to her imprisonment, and the dramatic, at times hard-to-believe nature of the grace and providence which brought her to faith and ultimate release. Please be advised this episode contains details upsetting to some listeners, including references to sexual assault and trafficking. Additional resources are available at NO MORE . Show Notes Resources mentioned: " Free Cyntoia" by Cyntoia Brown Long The JFAM Foundation Similar NSE episodes: Emi Nietfeld: Acceptance Anthony Ray Hinton: An Innocent Man on Death Row Greg Boyle: Homeboys, Delight, Gladness Bill Haslam: Humility and the Art of Politics PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram |<a href="https://twitter.com/leec
Thu, August 29, 2024
Cyntoia Brown Long: Free Cyntoia (Best of NSE)
On August 7th, 2019, Cyntoia Brown Long was released from the Tennessee Prison for Women. It was 13 years after she had been sentenced to life without parole for the murder of a man to whom she had been sex-trafficked. In this special episode, Cyntoia tells an uncensored account of the great personal and systemic brokenness which led to her imprisonment, and the dramatic, at times hard-to-believe nature of the grace and providence which brought her to faith and ultimate release. Please be advised this episode contains details upsetting to some listeners, including references to sexual assault and trafficking. Additional resources are available at NO MORE . Show Notes Resources mentioned: " Free Cyntoia" by Cyntoia Brown Long The JFAM Foundation Similar NSE episodes: Emi Nietfeld: Acceptance Anthony Ray Hinton: An Innocent Man on Death Row Greg Boyle: Homeboys, Delight, Gladness Bill Haslam: Humility and the Art of Politics PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter</st
Tue, August 27, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Quincy Byrdsong
This is our unabridged interview with Quincy Byrdsong. How are the world’s poor and oppressed affected by inequity in healthcare systems? In the United States, “health inequity started with slavery,” says Dr. Quincy Byrdsong, himself a longtime healthcare professional. Since slavery was abolished, health inequities have not gone away, but have become more complex and subtle. In this episode, Dr. Byrdsong discusses how such cases as the infamous Tuskegee syphilis trials have allowed racism and classism to persist in healthcare systems, and what might be done in response to such injustice. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Tuskegee Syphilis Study Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Andre Churchwell: Diversity, Virtue, Healthcare Willie James Jennings: The Christian Imagination Transcript of Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Polic
Thu, August 22, 2024
Quincy Byrdsong: Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice (Best of NSE)
How are the world’s poor and oppressed affected by inequity in healthcare systems? In the United States, “health inequity started with slavery,” says Dr. Quincy Byrdsong, himself a longtime healthcare professional. Since slavery was abolished, health inequities have not gone away, but have become more complex and subtle. In this episode, Dr. Byrdsong discusses how such cases as the infamous Tuskegee syphilis trials have allowed racism and classism to persist in healthcare systems, and what might be done in response to such injustice. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Tuskegee Syphilis Study Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Andre Churchwell: Diversity, Virtue, Healthcare Willie James Jennings: The Christian Imagination Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a
Bonus · Tue, August 20, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Jerry Mitchell: Murder, Race, and Faith
This is our unabridged interview with Jerry Mitchell. In the 1990s, investigative journalist Jerry Mitchell started working on a handful of closed murder cases from the Civil Rights Era which he believed were never brought to justice. Since then, Jerry’s work has led to 24 convictions in Civil Rights murder cases. In this episode, he tells some of the most jaw-dropping stories from his life’s work, from the discovery of sealed spy records which reveal government involvement in racial murder, to interviews with klansmen who made threats on his life. “Them trying to threaten me really made me more determined to do it than ever,” he says. “A life of fear is not worth living.” Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Mississippi Burning" (1988) "Race Against Time: A Reporter Reopens the Unsolved Murder Cases of the Civil Rights Era" Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Dr. Fred Gray: Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Robert Jones: White Too Long Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/tokenss
Thu, August 15, 2024
Jerry Mitchell: Murder, Race, and Faith (Best of NSE)
In the 1990s, investigative journalist Jerry Mitchell started working on a handful of closed murder cases from the Civil Rights Era which he believed were never brought to justice. Since then, Jerry’s work has led to 24 convictions in Civil Rights murder cases. In this episode, he tells some of the most jaw-dropping stories from his life’s work, from the discovery of sealed spy records which reveal government involvement in racial murder, to interviews with klansmen who made threats on his life. “Them trying to threaten me really made me more determined to do it than ever,” he says. “A life of fear is not worth living.” Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: "Mississippi Burning" (1988) "Race Against Time: A Reporter Reopens the Unsolved Murder Cases of the Civil Rights Era" Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Dr. Fred Gray: Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Robert Jones: White Too Long Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:<a href="https://www.ins
Bonus · Tue, August 13, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Clay Hobbs
This is our unabridged episode with Clay Hobbs. What if you knew you had one year left to live? With just 365 days left on earth, how would you spend them? After a terminal cancer diagnosis, host Lee C. Camp’s friend Clay Hobbs was faced with this exact question. Doctors estimated he would die before the year was out, and Clay took them literally. He chose a date, marked it on a calendar, and began planning accordingly. In today’s intimate episode, Lee shares several conversations with Clay in the last year of his life. The friends discuss coming to terms with a terminal diagnosis, saying goodbye, and how the practice of facing death may help us all lead more intentional lives. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: On Death And Dying - Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Rapt: Attention and the Focused Life - Winifred Gallagher Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Oliver Burkeman: Time Management for Mortals Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence The Opposite of Faith is Certainty: Christian Wiman Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<a
Thu, August 08, 2024
Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days
What if you knew you had one year left to live? With just 365 days left on earth, how would you spend them? After a terminal cancer diagnosis, host Lee C. Camp’s friend Clay Hobbs was faced with this exact question. Doctors estimated he would die before the year was out, and Clay took them literally. He chose a date, marked it on a calendar, and began planning accordingly. In today’s intimate episode, Lee shares several conversations with Clay in the last year of his life. The friends discuss coming to terms with a terminal diagnosis, saying goodbye, and how the practice of facing death may help us all lead more intentional lives. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: On Death And Dying - Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Rapt: Attention and the Focused Life - Winifred Gallagher Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Oliver Burkeman: Time Management for Mortals Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence The Opposite of Faith is Certainty: Christian Wiman Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter</stron
Tue, August 06, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Amishi Jha
Our guest today says that for 50% of our lives, we are not paying attention to what we’re doing. In today’s fast-paced, technology-driven world, many of us are coming to terms with the fact that our capacity for paying attention is laughably weak. Our work, mental health, and relationships suffer because of it. But what if there was a tried-and-true way to change this, something like “push-ups for your brain?” Neuroscientist Amishi Jha has dedicated her career to studying this question, and the results are in. In this episode, she describes the practice of mindfulness meditation - why it can work for everyone (not just the spiritual folks), and how it only takes 12 minutes each day to reach one’s “Peak Mind.” Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Peak Mind by Amishi Jha Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Naomi Shihab Nye: The Life Changing Benefits of Paying Attention Charles Duhigg: The Power of Habit Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="https:/
Thu, August 01, 2024
Amishi Jha: Push-ups for Your Brain
Our guest today says that for 50% of our lives, we are not paying attention to what we’re doing. In today’s fast-paced, technology-driven world, many of us are coming to terms with the fact that our capacity for paying attention is laughably weak. Our work, mental health, and relationships suffer because of it. But what if there was a tried-and-true way to change this, something like “push-ups for your brain?” Neuroscientist Amishi Jha has dedicated her career to studying this question, and the results are in. In this episode, she describes the practice of mindfulness meditation - why it can work for everyone (not just the spiritual folks), and how it only takes 12 minutes each day to reach one’s “Peak Mind.” Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Peak Mind by Amishi Jha Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Naomi Shihab Nye: The Life Changing Benefits of Paying Attention Charles Duhigg: The Power of Habit Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="https://www.facebook
Tue, July 30, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Shai Held
This is our unabridged interview with Rabbi Shai Held. “I think part of what it means to live in an honest way with a religious tradition is to live with its ragged edges.” It’s not unusual to assume that one of religion's prime functions is to give us answers. But what if some of life’s hardest questions weren’t meant to be answered, but rather perpetually asked? In this episode, Rabbi Shai Held, author of the book, "Judaism is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life,” exemplifies this possibility, engaging the messiness and joy of life with honest grappling. He argues that some Jews have internalized traditional anti-Jewish bias and he seeks to help recover what has been lost. He shows that love and grace are at the center of a good life. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Judaism Is About Love by Shai Held Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Amy-Jill Levine: A Jewish Take on Jesus Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See the World Miroslav Volf: A Theology of Joy Pete Enns and Jared Byas: The Bible for Normal People PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram |<a href="htt
Thu, July 25, 2024
Shai Held: Judaism Is About Love
“I think part of what it means to live in an honest way with a religious tradition is to live with its ragged edges.” It’s not unusual to assume that one of religion's prime functions is to give us answers. But what if some of life’s hardest questions weren’t meant to be answered, but rather perpetually asked? In this episode, Rabbi Shai Held, author of the book, "Judaism is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life,” exemplifies this possibility, engaging the messiness and joy of life with honest grappling. He argues that some Jews have internalized traditional anti-Jewish bias and he seeks to help recover what has been lost. He shows that love and grace are at the center of a good life. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Judaism Is About Love by Shai Held Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Amy-Jill Levine: A Jewish Take on Jesus Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See the World Miroslav Volf: A Theology of Joy Pete Enns and Jared Byas: The Bible for Normal People PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Episode Transcript JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |<a href="
Tue, July 23, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Peter Enns and Jared Byas
This is our unabridged interview with Pete Enns and Jared Byas. “It was our curiosity about the Bible that is now leading to conclusions that are no longer welcome in these institutions.” Pete Enns and Jared Byas host The Bible for Normal People, a podcast which is loved by some, lambasted by others. They started it as a way to have honest conversations about the Bible, for folks both religious and non-religious -- conversations that cost them both previous jobs at religious institutions. In this episode, they discuss the complexity of the Bible, and what their work has taught them about courage, curiosity, humility, and the dangers of certainty. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The Sin of Certainty by Pete Enns How the Bible Actually Works by Pete Enns Love Matters More by Jared Byas The Bible for Normal People PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Amy-Jill Levine: A Jewish Take on Jesus Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See the World N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube </stron
Thu, July 18, 2024
Pete Enns and Jared Byas: The Bible for Normal People
“It was our curiosity about the Bible that is now leading to conclusions that are no longer welcome in these institutions.” Pete Enns and Jared Byas host The Bible for Normal People, a podcast which is loved by some, lambasted by others. They started it as a way to have honest conversations about the Bible, for folks both religious and non-religious -- conversations that cost them both previous jobs at religious institutions. In this episode, they discuss the complexity of the Bible, and what their work has taught them about courage, curiosity, humility, and the dangers of certainty. Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: The Sin of Certainty by Pete Enns How the Bible Actually Works by Pete Enns Love Matters More by Jared Byas The Bible for Normal People PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Similar No Small Endeavor episodes: Amy-Jill Levine: A Jewish Take on Jesus Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See the World N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Insta
Tue, July 16, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Stanley Hauerwas (Part I)
This is our unabridged interview with Stanley Hauerwas (Part I). “This is my life. I want no other.” Time Magazine has recognized Stanley Hauerwas as the best theologian in America. But you don’t get that title by making everybody happy. Stanley's enigmatic personality is loved by some, lambasted by others. His dogged pacifism is laced with profanity. He’s a stereotypical Texan, but is a vocal opponent of gun ownership. Many think him to be a liberal, but he disavows liberalism. Others call him conservative, but his extreme dislike for evangelicalism and war-making dispute that claim. Wherever you're coming from, you're in for a disarmingly candid episode on one man's life in his own words, a life spent relentlessly seeking the nature of a good life. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode Hannah’s Child by Stanley Hauerwas John Dear NSE Interview PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Poli
Tue, July 16, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Stanley Hauerwas (Part II)
This is our unabridged interview with Stanley Hauerwas (Part II). “This is my life. I want no other.” Time Magazine has recognized Stanley Hauerwas as the best theologian in America. But you don’t get that title by making everybody happy. Stanley's enigmatic personality is loved by some, lambasted by others. His dogged pacifism is laced with profanity. He’s a stereotypical Texan, but is a vocal opponent of gun ownership. Many think him to be a liberal, but he disavows liberalism. Others call him conservative, but his extreme dislike for evangelicalism and war-making dispute that claim. Wherever you're coming from, you're in for a disarmingly candid episode on one man's life in his own words, a life spent relentlessly seeking the nature of a good life. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode Hannah’s Child by Stanley Hauerwas John Dear NSE Interview PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Pol
Thu, July 11, 2024
Stanley Hauerwas: "America's Best Theologian"
“This is my life. I want no other.” Time Magazine has recognized Stanley Hauerwas as the best theologian in America. But you don’t get that title by making everybody happy. Stanley's enigmatic personality is loved by some, lambasted by others. His dogged pacifism is laced with profanity. He’s a stereotypical Texan, but is a vocal opponent of gun ownership. Many think him to be a liberal, but he disavows liberalism. Others call him conservative, but his extreme dislike for evangelicalism and war-making dispute that claim. Wherever you're coming from, you're in for a disarmingly candid episode on one man's life in his own words, a life spent relentlessly seeking the nature of a good life. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode Hannah’s Child by Stanley Hauerwas John Dear NSE Interview PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy </
Bonus · Tue, July 09, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Jeffrey Rosen
This is our unabridged interview with Jeffrey Rosen. “In many ways, we're living in the founders’ nightmare,” says Jeffrey Rosen, president of the National Constitution Center. “All of the founders thought that we could not govern ourselves as a democracy unless we first achieved self-government as individuals.” For Independence Day, Rosen shares how the "pursuit of happiness" mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is defined differently than our contemporary notion of the word. It includes a life in pursuit of self-mastery as what would ensure our individual and collective flourishing. Jeffrey also discusses the goods of stoic philosophy and touts the practice of deep reading as a potential antidote to civic issues the U.S. is facing currently. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode The Pursuit of Happiness by Jeffrey Rosen We The People Podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy:<a href="h
Thu, July 04, 2024
Jeffrey Rosen: The Pursuit of Happiness
“In many ways, we're living in the founders’ nightmare,” says Jeffrey Rosen, president of the National Constitution Center. “All of the founders thought that we could not govern ourselves as a democracy unless we first achieved self-government as individuals.” For Independence Day, Rosen shares how the "pursuit of happiness" mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is defined differently than our contemporary notion of the word. It includes a life in pursuit of self-mastery as what would ensure our individual and collective flourishing. Jeffrey also discusses the goods of stoic philosophy and touts the practice of deep reading as a potential antidote to civic issues the U.S. is facing currently. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode The Pursuit of Happiness by Jeffrey Rosen We The People Podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy </a
Tue, July 02, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Emi Nietfeld
This is our unabridged interview with Emi Nietfeld. “When I was 13, I went to the psych ward for the first time,” recalls Emi Nietfeld. After a childhood spent in manipulative therapy, institutional facilities, foster care, and even times of homelessness, Emi got into Harvard, and then went on to get a great job at Google. This is the classic American rags-to-riches story, of someone overcoming misery to find success and happiness, right? Not exactly. “Those perfect human interest stories are fictions,” she says. “We really do expect people to be perfect in a way that I knew I was not.” In this episode, the nuance of learning to accept one’s pain, and yet refusing to stand for it. ** Please be advised that this episode contains details that may be upsetting to some listeners including references to suicide, sexual assault, and disordered eating. ** Additional resources are available at: SAMHSA National Sexual Violence Resource Center National Alliance for Eating Disorders Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Acceptance by Emi Nietfeld Quote from James Baldwin “Notes of a Native Son” PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter</st
Thu, June 27, 2024
Emi Nietfeld: Acceptance
“When I was 13, I went to the psych ward for the first time,” recalls Emi Nietfeld. After a childhood spent in manipulative therapy, institutional facilities, foster care, and even times of homelessness, Emi got into Harvard, and then went on to get a great job at Google. This is the classic American rags-to-riches story, of someone overcoming misery to find success and happiness, right? Not exactly. “Those perfect human interest stories are fictions,” she says. “We really do expect people to be perfect in a way that I knew I was not.” In this episode, the nuance of learning to accept one’s pain, and yet refusing to stand for it. ** Please be advised that this episode contains details that may be upsetting to some listeners including references to suicide, sexual assault, and disordered eating. ** Additional resources are available at: SAMHSA National Sexual Violence Resource Center National Alliance for Eating Disorders Show Notes Resources mentioned this episode: Acceptance by Emi Nietfeld Quote from James Baldwin “Notes of a Native Son” PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter |
Tue, June 25, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Charles Duhigg
This is our unabridged interview with Charles Duhigg. How do you form a good habit? How do you change a destructive one? “It's up to us to decide which…habits that we wish to embrace,” says Charles Duhigg, author of the longtime bestseller "The Power of Habit." In this episode, he explains how to tackle new and old habits in an empowering way. Plus, Duhigg discusses his new book "Supercommunicators," in which he shares how to understand the type of conversation you're having with someone and how to show them your listening—hint, it’s not with your body language. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg Supercommunicators by Charles Duhigg PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising pr
Thu, June 20, 2024
Charles Duhigg: The Power of Habit
How do you form a good habit? How do you change a destructive one? “It's up to us to decide which…habits that we wish to embrace,” says Charles Duhigg, author of the longtime bestseller "The Power of Habit." In this episode, he explains how to tackle new and old habits in an empowering way. Plus, Duhigg discusses his new book "Supercommunicators," in which he shares how to understand the type of conversation you're having with someone and how to show them your listening—hint, it’s not with your body language. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg Supercommunicators by Charles Duhigg PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by a
Tue, June 18, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Rev. James Lawson
“We started the public desegregation of the nation,” says Reverend James Lawson, “and we did it without hating anybody.” In this episode, the man who Martin Luther King Jr. called friend, mentor, and the very conscience and architect of the Civil Rights Movement, Reverend James Lawson, discusses the United States’ past and present, and what it took to organize a whole population across the country to fight back without throwing a punch. This episode is dedicated to the memory of Reverend Lawson, who passed away on June 9th 2024, at the age of 95. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode James Lawson Full Interview PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Juneteenth Special Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by adv
Thu, June 13, 2024
Juneteenth Special: Fred Gray, James Lawson, and Willie James Jennings
Juneteenth celebrates the day that the final enforcement of the Emancipation Proclamation was given in Texas, officially making slavery illegal in the U.S. But what factors led to the worldview that condoned slavery in the first place, and how might those factors still be affecting the country today? Martin Luther King Jr.’s attorney Fred Gray discusses his work against segregation in the South, particularly in the Montgomery Bus Boycott. Yale professor Willie James Jennings describes the religious and cultural origins of racism. And James Lawson, considered by many as one of the architects of the civil rights movement, explains how he and other leaders came to believe that the only way to effectively desegregate the nation was through non-violent protest. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode James Lawson Full Interview Fred Gray Full Interview Willie James Jennings Full Interview The Christian Imagination by Willie James Jennings Bus Ride to Justice by Fred Gray PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes - Willie James Jennings PDF of Lee's Interview Notes - James Lawson Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube </st
Bonus · Tue, June 11, 2024
Unabridged Interview: John Blake
What has the power to change our minds about the world? In John Blake’s case, it was a surprise encounter. “I knew I had a white mother,” says award-winning journalist John Blake. “Her name is Shirley, and her family hates black people… that's all I knew.” At age 17, John Blake’s father casually asked him if he’d like to meet his mother for the first time. Three days later, he found himself in the waiting room of a hospital. “The meeting is nothing that I expected,” he recalls. “It's incredibly shocking.” Today, Blake tells the story of his childhood, born in the sixties as the son of an interracial couple in Baltimore. His story sheds light on the history of racial prejudice in the United States, and offers wisdom about the ways in which we might find hope and healing in the midst of all kinds of struggle and hostility. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode More Than I Imagined by John Blake PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy:
Thu, June 06, 2024
John Blake: More Than I Imagined
John Blake’s father was Black. The mother he never knew was white. The two met in Baltimore in the 60’s when interracial marriage was illegal. “I knew I had a white mother,” says the award-winning journalist. “Her name is Shirley, and her family hates black people… that's all I knew.” At age 17, John Blake’s father casually asked him if he’d like to meet his mother for the first time. Three days later, he found himself in the waiting room of a hospital where he uncovered a long held family secret. “The meeting is nothing that I expected,” he recalls. “It's incredibly shocking.” Today, Blake tells the story of his childhood shedding light on the history of racial prejudice in the United States. He offers wisdom about the ways in which we might find hope and healing in the midst of all kinds of struggle and hostility. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode More Than I Imagined by John Blake PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: P
Bonus · Tue, June 04, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Naomi Shihab Nye
This is our unabridged interview with Naomi Shihab Nye. What do scientists and poets both agree on? On this show, we often host guests whose work is in scientific or concrete fields, such as psychology or sociology, which rely on experiments and research to come to helpful conclusions. But such conversations sometimes fall short of the wonder and beauty we experience in everyday life, and for such subjects, we turn to the poets. In this episode, award-winning poet Naomi Shihab Nye corroborates what researchers have confirmed—the benefits of paying attention. She shares abundant wisdom for living a good life through the lens of poetry. Her work has a quality that the best poetry has, that of paying rapt attention to small moments, making meaning and hope out of everyday wonders. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode Everything Comes Next by Naomi Shihab Nye PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate
Thu, May 30, 2024
Naomi Shihab Nye: The Life Changing Benefits of Paying Attention (Best of NSE)
What do scientists and poets both agree on? On this show, we often host guests whose work is in scientific or concrete fields, such as psychology or sociology, which rely on experiments and research to come to helpful conclusions. But such conversations sometimes fall short of the wonder and beauty we experience in everyday life, and for such subjects, we turn to the poets. In this episode, award-winning poet Naomi Shihab Nye corroborates what researchers have confirmed—the benefits of paying attention. She shares abundant wisdom for living a good life through the lens of poetry. Her work has a quality that the best poetry has, that of paying rapt attention to small moments, making meaning and hope out of everyday wonders. Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode Everything Comes Next by Naomi Shihab Nye PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC
Bonus · Tue, May 28, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Kristin Neff
This is our unabridged interview with Kristin Neff. Is high self-esteem crucial to human flourishing, or, rather, a hindrance? “The biggest problem with self-esteem is that it tends to be contingent,” says Kristin Neff. “We only feel good about ourselves when we succeed.” Far too often, high self-esteem breeds narcissism, bullying, and prejudice. Kristin is a professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin. She’s also a prominent expert on the topic of self-compassion, which her research has found to be much more effective than self-esteem in helping people flourish. In this episode, she shares what makes self-compassion different from self-esteem, how to cultivate it, and how it can help us to flourish amidst stress, suffering, and everyday life. We also hear briefly from psychiatrist and author Curt Thompson illuminating the negative neurobiological effects of shame while Kristen explains how self compassion can remedy these effects. Show Notes: Similar episodes Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance Judith Moskowitz: How to Flourish Amidst Stress Alfie Kohn: Why You Shouldn’t Punish–or Reward–Your Kids Curt Thompson: The Soul of Shame Resources mentioned this episode Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff Fierce Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff Self-Compassion.org Why Self-Compassion Works Better than Self-Esteem PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple |<a href="https://open.spoti
Thu, May 23, 2024
Kristin Neff: The Power of Self-Compassion (Best of NSE)
Is high self-esteem crucial to human flourishing, or, rather, a hindrance? “The biggest problem with self-esteem is that it tends to be contingent,” says Kristin Neff. “We only feel good about ourselves when we succeed.” Far too often, high self-esteem breeds narcissism, bullying, and prejudice. Kristin is a professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin. She’s also a prominent expert on the topic of self-compassion, which her research has found to be much more effective than self-esteem in helping people flourish. In this episode, she shares what makes self-compassion different from self-esteem, how to cultivate it, and how it can help us to flourish amidst stress, suffering, and everyday life. We also hear briefly from psychiatrist and author Curt Thompson illuminating the negative neurobiological effects of shame while Kristen explains how self compassion can remedy these effects. Show Notes: Similar episodes Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance Judith Moskowitz: How to Flourish Amidst Stress Alfie Kohn: Why You Shouldn’t Punish–or Reward–Your Kids Curt Thompson: The Soul of Shame Resources mentioned this episode Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff Fierce Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff Self-Compassion.org Why Self-Compassion Works Better than Self-Esteem PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spot
Bonus · Tue, May 21, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Amy-Jill Levine
This is our unabridged episode with Amy-Jill Levine. What happens when you get a self-dubbed “yankee Jewish feminist” talking about Jesus? Turns out, you get a fascinating conversation leaving folks of all faiths and worldviews with much to think about. Amy-Jill Levine is a brilliant professor of New Testament, and, perhaps surprisingly, a practicing Jew. In this episode, she uses her knowledge of Jewish culture to highlight common mis-readings of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus’s stance on societal and gender norms, and how “Christian fragility” can impede one’s ability to address religious and social questions honestly. Show Notes: Similar episodes Amy-Jill Levine: Jewish, Yankee Feminist, New Testament Professor John Dear: Taking the Beatitudes Seriously N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See the World Resources mentioned this episode Sermon on the Mount: A Beginners Guide to the Kingdom of Heaven by Amy-Jill Levine PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCyab0&list=PL2Rk2D2fHz
Thu, May 16, 2024
Amy-Jill Levine: A Jewish Take on Jesus (Best of NSE)
What happens when you get a self-dubbed “yankee Jewish feminist” talking about Jesus? Turns out, you get a fascinating conversation leaving folks of all faiths and worldviews with much to think about. Amy-Jill Levine is a brilliant professor of New Testament, and, perhaps surprisingly, a practicing Jew. In this episode, she uses her knowledge of Jewish culture to highlight common mis-readings of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus’s stance on societal and gender norms, and how “Christian fragility” can impede one’s ability to address religious and social questions honestly. Show Notes: Similar episodes Amy-Jill Levine: Jewish, Yankee Feminist, New Testament Professor John Dear: Taking the Beatitudes Seriously N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See the World Resources mentioned this episode Sermon on the Mount: A Beginners Guide to the Kingdom of Heaven by Amy-Jill Levine PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
Bonus · Tue, May 14, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Angela Williams Gorrell
This is our unabridged interview with Angela Williams Gorrell. What is joy? Is it equatable with happiness, or pleasure, or both? Is it to be found in a career, or a romantic partner, or a religion? And if we were to manage it, would our lives forever be free from sorrow, pain, and suffering? In this episode, author and professor Angela Williams Gorrell, who was teaching a class on joy at Yale when she lost three people that she loved in a four-week span, describes her personal experience of finding joy amidst loss. Show Notes: Similar episodes Philip Yancey: Where the Light Fell Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Resources mentioned this episode The Gravity of Joy by Angela Williams Gorrell The Epidemic of Despair PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes - Angela Williams Gorrell Link to Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3Lz
Thu, May 09, 2024
Angela Williams Gorrell and Miroslav Volf: On Joy and Sorrow (Best of NSE)
What is joy? Is it equatable with happiness, or pleasure, or both? Is it to be found in a career, or a romantic partner, or a religion? And if we were to manage it, would our lives forever be free from sorrow, pain, and suffering? In this episode, two guests discuss joy, describing both what it is and, perhaps more importantly, what it is not. Author and professor Angela Williams Gorrell, who was teaching a class on joy at Yale when she lost three people that she loved in a four-week span, describes her personal experience of finding joy amidst loss. And Yale theologian Miroslav Volf, himself no stranger to suffering growing up in a war torn country, explains the connection between joy and sorrow. Show Notes: Similar episodes Philip Yancey: Where the Light Fell Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Resources mentioned this episode The Gravity of Joy by Angela Williams Gorrell The Epidemic of Despair PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes - Angela Williams Gorrell Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify |
Bonus · Tue, May 07, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Karen Korematsu
This is our unabridged interview with Karen Korematsu. What is it like to be an Asian American? In light of the beginning of AAPI month, we present a re-airing of our episode from 2021 with Karen Korematsu and Eugene Cho, two Asian-Americans with unique stories of grief and hope. Karen Korematsu tells the story of her father Fred Korematsu, a famed Japanese-American civil rights activist who refused Franklin Roosevelt’s executive order to report to what FDR himself called “a concentration camp” on American soil shortly after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Show Notes: Similar episodes Eugene Cho: Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk Elise Hu: Obsessed with Beauty Resources mentioned this episode The Korematsu Institute PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes - Karen Korematsu Transcript of Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee:
Thu, May 02, 2024
Eugene Cho and Karen Korematsu: Asian American History is American History (Best of NSE)
What is it like to be an Asian American? In light of the beginning of AAPI month, we present a re-airing of our episode from 2021 with Karen Korematsu and Eugene Cho, two Asian-Americans with unique stories of grief and hope. Karen Korematsu tells the story of her father Fred Korematsu, a famed Japanese-American civil rights activist who refused Franklin Roosevelt’s executive order to report to what FDR himself called “a concentration camp” on American soil shortly after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Eugene Cho discusses his experiences as a Korean-born American immigrant, and how we might learn to love our neighbors in the face of political polarization and racial discrimination. Show Notes: Similar episodes Eugene Cho: Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk Elise Hu: Obsessed with Beauty Resources mentioned this episode Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk by Eugene Cho The Korematsu Institute PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes - Eugene Cho PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes - Karen Korematsu Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/" rel="nofollow" target="_bla
Wed, May 01, 2024
For Your Consideration: The Gist Featuring Sir David King
Today, we’re sharing a special episode from The Gist—hosted by Mike Pesca. Sir David King, formerly the UK's Government Chief Scientific Adviser, is now the Founder and Chair at Cambridge's Center for Climate Repair. He advocates carbon capture technology as part of the mix of solutions to climate change. Many environmentalists are not sold. Mike Pesca has established a seven-year connection to his audience as host of The Gist. For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea. Listen to more episodes of The Gist and follow the podcast: https://pod.link/873667927 Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Bonus · Tue, April 30, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Suzanne Stabile
This is our unabridged interview with Suzanne Stabile. What is the Enneagram, and how can it help us live a good life? “The unexamined life is not worth living,” said Socrates. But if that’s true, how are we to go about examining our lives, and what templates or metrics are we to use? One of the best places to start, suggests author and speaker Suzanne Stabile, is the ancient wisdom tool known as the Enneagram. What at first glance seems like a Myers-Briggs-esque personality test for grouping humanity into neat piles is actually a tool for observing our way of seeing and being in the world and helps us see that not everyone experiences the world in the same way. Using the Enneagram, she says, “I teach people who they're not. I don't teach people who they are.” In this episode, she gives an overview of the ways in which the Enneagram just might help us become more understanding, compassionate, holistic people. Show Notes: Similar episodes Ian Cron: Recovery, the Enneagram, and Being Human Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Resources mentioned this episode The Road Back to You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron The Path Between Us by Suzanne Stabile The Enneagram Journey podcast Suzanne’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify |<a href="https://music.a
Thu, April 25, 2024
Suzanne Stabile: Exploring The Enneagram (Best of NSE)
What is the Enneagram, and how can it help us live a good life? “The unexamined life is not worth living,” said Socrates. But if that’s true, how are we to go about examining our lives, and what templates or metrics are we to use? One of the best places to start, suggests author and speaker Suzanne Stabile, is the ancient wisdom tool known as the Enneagram. What at first glance seems like a Myers-Briggs-esque personality test for grouping humanity into neat piles is actually a tool for observing our way of seeing and being in the world and helps us see that not everyone experiences the world in the same way. Using the Enneagram, she says, “I teach people who they're not. I don't teach people who they are.” In this episode, she gives an overview of the ways in which the Enneagram just might help us become more understanding, compassionate, holistic people. Show Notes: Similar episodes Ian Cron: Recovery, the Enneagram, and Being Human Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Resources mentioned this episode The Road Back to You by Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron The Path Between Us by Suzanne Stabile The Enneagram Journey podcast Suzanne’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify |<a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/814f2501-04a0-4dc3-a771-a6b7d84c3daf/no-small-endeavor-w
Bonus · Tue, April 23, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Bill McKibben
This is our unabridged interview with Bill McKibben. “If we are to take heart from the really good things about American history, we have no choice but to reckon first with the dark sides of it,” says Bill McKibben, journalist, author, and activist. One of the most prominent of environmental activists and authors, McKibben also discusses racial justice, the economic impact of suburbanization, and the relation of the Christian church to social change in America. Show Notes: Similar episodes Katharine Hayhoe: The Most Polarized Issue in the United States Debra Rienstra: Healing the Earth Peter Harris: The Collapse of the Biosphere Chris Doran: Hope in the Age of Climate Change Resources mentioned this episode The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon by Bill McKibben Bill McKibben Interview Notes JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook |<a href="ht
Thu, April 18, 2024
Earth Day Special: Climate and Society
Believe it or not, a 2020 PEW study revealed that the most polarized issue in the US is climate change. How did we get here? How have the warnings of climate science been ignored by half the country? How serious is the climate problem, how immediate are the consequences, and what can regular people like us really do about it? In this episode, four voices discuss the subject from all angles. We hear from cognitive scientist John Cook on the history of climate misinformation, climate researcher Katharine Hayhoe on what the science is actually saying, theologian Debra Rienstra on the ways religion impacts climate-based decisions, and activist Bill McKibben on the ways we can help here and now. Show Notes: Similar episodes Katharine Hayhoe: The Most Polarized Issue in the United States Debra Rienstra: Healing the Earth Bill McKibben: The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon Peter Harris: The Collapse of the Biosphere Chris Doran: Hope in the Age of Climate Change Resources mentioned this episode 2020 PEW Study on Climate Polarization The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon by Bill McKibben Saving Us by Katharine Hayhoe Refugia Faith by Debra Rienstra John Cook Interview Notes Katharine Hayhoe Interview Notes Debra Rienstra Interview Notes Bill McKibben Interview Notes Transcription Link <
Bonus · Tue, April 16, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Pádraig Ó Tuama
This is our unabridged interview with Pádraig Ó Tuama. What if, to be a peacemaker, one might have to wade into trouble and stir the waters oneself? What if, to be a theologian, one might have to leave some of the most troubling questions about God unanswered? What if, to be a poet, one might have to do away with flowery abstraction and accept the nitty-gritty of real life? Pádraig Ó Tuama, host of the podcast Poetry Unbound from On Being Studios, is all of these things - peacemaker, theologian, poet. In this episode, he shares beautiful and troubling stories from his peacemaking work in Northern Ireland, discusses why one must be ready to accept nuance as a condition for any fruitful outcome, and offers observations about the makings of a good life. Show Notes: Similar episodes John Dear: How to Be Nonviolent Michael T. McRay: I Am Not Your Enemy Poetry as Politics: Poet Laureates Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness Resources mentioned this episode "The Facts of Life" - Pádraig Ó Tuama Being Here by Pádraig Ó Tuama Sorry for Your Troubles by Pádraig Ó Tuama Readings from the Book of Exile by Pádraig Ó Tuama Poetry Unbound Corrymeela’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Link to Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple |<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1qxyysbo7hINyfd4W4LoOs" rel="
Thu, April 11, 2024
Pádraig Ó Tuama: A Poet’s Work in Peace and Reconciliation (Best of NSE)
What if, to be a peacemaker, one might have to wade into trouble and stir the waters oneself? What if, to be a theologian, one might have to leave some of the most troubling questions about God unanswered? What if, to be a poet, one might have to do away with flowery abstraction and accept the nitty-gritty of real life? Pádraig Ó Tuama, host of the podcast Poetry Unbound from On Being Studios, is all of these things - peacemaker, theologian, poet. In this episode, he shares beautiful and troubling stories from his peacemaking work in Northern Ireland, discusses why one must be ready to accept nuance as a condition for any fruitful outcome, and offers observations about the makings of a good life. Show Notes: Similar episodes John Dear: How to Be Nonviolent Michael T. McRay: I Am Not Your Enemy Poetry as Politics: Poet Laureates Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness Resources mentioned this episode "The Facts of Life" - Pádraig Ó Tuama Being Here by Pádraig Ó Tuama Sorry for Your Troubles by Pádraig Ó Tuama Readings from the Book of Exile by Pádraig Ó Tuama Poetry Unbound Corrymeela’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify |<a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/
Bonus · Tue, April 09, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Azim Khamisa
This is our unabridged interview with Azim Khamisa. How do you forgive the man who killed your son? In 1995, Azim Khamisa’s only son Tariq was shot and killed while delivering a pizza. The killer was a 14-year-old gang member named Tony Hicks, and due to a recent change of law in the state of California, Tony was tried as an adult and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison. But instead of responding with a call for outrage or revenge, Azim did the unthinkable: he forgave his son’s killer, and he fought for his release. “My interpretation of this tragedy was that there are victims at both ends of the gun,” he says. In this episode, he tells the full story of how he uses his experience to help end youth violence, even recruiting his son’s killer to join in the work. It is one of unimaginable grief, staunch faith, and unwavering compassion. Show Notes: Similar episodes Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode TKF’s website Azim’s website Azim’s TED Talk Email Azim: azim@azimkhamisa.com PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Link to Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCy
Thu, April 04, 2024
Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness (Best of NSE)
How do you forgive the man who killed your son? In 1995, Azim Khamisa’s only son Tariq was shot and killed while delivering a pizza. The killer was a 14-year-old gang member named Tony Hicks, and due to a recent change of law in the state of California, Tony was tried as an adult and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison. But instead of responding with a call for outrage or revenge, Azim did the unthinkable: he forgave his son’s killer, and he fought for his release. “My interpretation of this tragedy was that there are victims at both ends of the gun,” he says. In this episode, he tells the full story of how he uses his experience to help end youth violence, even recruiting his son’s killer to join in the work. It is one of unimaginable grief, staunch faith, and unwavering compassion. Show Notes: Similar episodes Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode TKF’s website Azim’s website Azim’s TED Talk Email Azim: azim@azimkhamisa.com PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | You
Bonus · Tue, April 02, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Dacher Keltner
This is our unabridged interview with Dacher Keltner. “Brief doses…help your heart, your immune system, your stress, your reasoning, your relationships,” says psychologist and bestselling author Dacher Keltner. And believe it or not, he’s not describing some new miracle drug or medical treatment. He’s talking about the experience of awe. He defines awe as “the feeling we have when we encounter vast, mysterious things.” It’s something we all have experienced, but often talk about rather sheepishly. Dacher has spent considerable time seeking it out and studying it, and the results are in. In this episode, he shares his findings, and offers all the ways in which awe is a necessary component to a happy, healthy, flourishing life. Show Notes: Similar episodes Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier? Judith Moskowitz: How to Flourish Amidst Stress Resources mentioned this episode Awe by Dacher Keltner AlanCowan.com Ming Kuo’s 21 pathways by which nature is good for one’s health Brian Sutton and Tammy Rogers performing “Nachstucke” PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM
Thu, March 28, 2024
Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life
“Brief doses…help your heart, your immune system, your stress, your reasoning, your relationships,” says psychologist and bestselling author Dacher Keltner. And believe it or not, he’s not describing some new miracle drug or medical treatment. He’s talking about the experience of awe. He defines awe as “the feeling we have when we encounter vast, mysterious things.” It’s something we all have experienced, but often talk about rather sheepishly. Dacher has spent considerable time seeking it out and studying it, and the results are in. In this episode, he shares his findings, and offers all the ways in which awe is a necessary component to a happy, healthy, flourishing life. Show Notes: Similar episodes Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier? Judith Moskowitz: How to Flourish Amidst Stress Resources mentioned this episode Awe by Dacher Keltner AlanCowan.com Ming Kuo’s 21 pathways by which nature is good for one’s health Brian Sutton and Tammy Rogers performing “Nachstucke” PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwLTRlZGQtOWM4MC1hYmI1MDEyOTliY
Bonus · Tue, March 26, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Philip Yancey
This is our unabridged interview with Philip Yancey. What do we do with the painful parts of our life story? Anybody familiar with Philip Yancey’s work knows that it has cost him more than time to be a bestselling author and journalist. It has cost him a lifetime of pain, loss, and deep spiritual struggle. Philip intentionally waited until recently to write down his story to protect some of the people in it, but now in his seventies, he’s released “Where the Light Fell,” his memoir that shares all the messy details about growing and beyond - losing his father, childhood poverty, parental abuse, ruinous fundamentalist Christianity, militant atheism, a nearly fatal car accident, and more. In this episode he shares how he managed to come to new understanding in the face of suffering. “A writer really only has one gift,” says Philip Yancey, “and that's the gift of his or her own life.” Show Notes Similar episodes: William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Resources mentioned this episode: Where the Light Fell by Philip Yancey My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok Soul Survivor by Philip Yancey PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cu
Thu, March 21, 2024
Philip Yancey: Where the Light Fell
What do we do with the painful parts of our life story? Anybody familiar with Philip Yancey’s work knows that it has cost him more than time to be a bestselling author and journalist. It has cost him a lifetime of pain, loss, and deep spiritual struggle. Philip intentionally waited until recently to write down his story to protect some of the people in it, but now in his seventies, he’s released “Where the Light Fell,” his memoir that shares all the messy details about growing and beyond - losing his father, childhood poverty, parental abuse, ruinous fundamentalist Christianity, militant atheism, a nearly fatal car accident, and more. In this episode he shares how he managed to come to new understanding in the face of suffering. “A writer really only has one gift,” says Philip Yancey, “and that's the gift of his or her own life.” Show Notes Similar episodes: William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty Resources mentioned this episode: Where the Light Fell by Philip Yancey My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok Soul Survivor by Philip Yancey PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiN
Tue, March 19, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Tara Brach
This is our unabridged interview with Tara Brach. How do you accept yourself fully, just as you are? And if you did, would you ever grow? “Being at peace with how we are in the moment is the precondition to transformation,” says psychologist and meditation teacher Tara Brach. In this episode she provides us with a simple practice to find peace and transformation known by the acronym RAIN. “We have amazing potential to change some of the habits that cause ourselves or others harm,” she says, “but we won't be able to access that if we're at war with ourselves.” Hear Tara’s stories from a life of practicing mindfulness, putting on display the wisdom and healing that come from pausing to accept the world as it is. This episode contains a brief mention of disordered eating. If you are in need of support, contact the National Alliance for Eating Disorders at 1-866-662-1235 Show Notes Similar episodes: Kristin Neff: Self Compassion Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Suzanne Stabile: Enneagram Wisdom and Living Well William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Resources mentioned this episode Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron RAIN meditation with Tara Brach Tonglen meditation with Pema Chodron PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify |<a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/
Thu, March 14, 2024
Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance
How do you accept yourself fully, just as you are? And if you did, would you ever grow? “Being at peace with how we are in the moment is the precondition to transformation,” says psychologist and meditation teacher Tara Brach. In this episode she provides us with a simple practice to find peace and transformation known by the acronym RAIN. “We have amazing potential to change some of the habits that cause ourselves or others harm,” she says, “but we won't be able to access that if we're at war with ourselves.” Hear Tara’s stories from a life of practicing mindfulness, putting on display the wisdom and healing that come from pausing to accept the world as it is. This episode contains a brief mention of disordered eating. If you are in need of support, contact the National Alliance for Eating Disorders at 1-866-662-1235 Show Notes Similar episodes: Kristin Neff: Self Compassion Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Suzanne Stabile: Enneagram Wisdom and Living Well William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Resources mentioned this episode Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron RAIN meditation with Tara Brach Tonglen meditation with Pema Chodron PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify |<a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/814f2501-04a0-4dc3-a771-a6b7d84c3daf/no-small-endeavor-with-lee-c-c
Bonus · Tue, March 12, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Malcolm Gladwell
This is our unabridged interview with Malcolm Gladwell. You may think you know Malcolm Gladwell. He is, after all, a New York Times bestselling author of “Outliers,” “The Tipping Point,” “Blink,” and other books. He’s the host of the wildly popular podcast “Revisionist History.” His work is heralded and his opinion asked by many folks on a wide array of issues. But what makes him so different that he has become one of the most successful journalists of our day? In this episode, Malcolm tells a host of stories - from receiving endorsement from his mother to cut class, to attending a Mennonite barn-raising with his mathematician father, to spending three days a week in Freudian therapy as a young adult - all which help explain how he became the wildly curious and unpinnable person that he is, bent on getting to the bottom of things. Show Notes Similar episodes: David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? Bill McKibben: The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation Resources mentioned this episode: Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell Blink by Malcolm Gladwell The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell Revisionist History Podcast Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxp
Thu, March 07, 2024
Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm
You may think you know Malcolm Gladwell. He is, after all, a New York Times bestselling author of “Outliers,” “The Tipping Point,” “Blink,” and other books. He’s the host of the wildly popular podcast “Revisionist History.” His work is heralded and his opinion asked by many folks on a wide array of issues. But what makes him so different that he has become one of the most successful journalists of our day? In this episode, Malcolm tells a host of stories - from receiving endorsement from his mother to cut class, to attending a Mennonite barn-raising with his mathematician father, to spending three days a week in Freudian therapy as a young adult - all which help explain how he became the wildly curious and unpinnable person that he is, bent on getting to the bottom of things. Show Notes Similar episodes: David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? Bill McKibben: The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation Resources mentioned this episode: Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell Blink by Malcolm Gladwell The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell Revisionist History Podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1O
Bonus · Tue, March 05, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Tim Alberta
This is our unabridged interview with Tim Alberta. At No Small Endeavor, we try to talk about the things that really matter to people. Two such things - politics and religion - are notoriously tricky to discuss without generalizing, proselytizing, or stoking division. But in an election year, we can’t ignore a sub-group in the United States that is adamant about combining faith and nation: Christian Nationalists. In this episode, we called in Tim Alberta, author of “The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory” and an expert for the job. He shares what it was like growing up around the movement, offers his criticism of a subculture he knows inside and out, and presents the clear and present danger of conflating religious identity with national identity. Show Notes Similar episodes: Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French David French: Conservatism without Trumpism Russell Moore: Against, and For, the Tribe Randall Balmer – name? Link? Resources mentioned this episode: The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory by Tim Alberta Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Du Mez PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwLTRlZGQtOWM
Thu, February 29, 2024
Tim Alberta: The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory
At No Small Endeavor, we try to talk about the things that really matter to people. Two such things - politics and religion - are notoriously tricky to discuss without generalizing, proselytizing, or stoking division. But in an election year, we can’t ignore a sub-group in the United States that is adamant about combining faith and nation: Christian Nationalists. In this episode, we called in Tim Alberta, author of “The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory” and an expert for the job. He shares what it was like growing up around the movement, offers his criticism of a subculture he knows inside and out, and presents the clear and present danger of conflating religious identity with national identity. Show Notes Similar episodes: Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French David French: Conservatism without Trumpism Russell Moore: Against, and For, the Tribe Randall Balmer – name? Link? Resources mentioned this episode: The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory by Tim Alberta Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Du Mez PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google</
Bonus · Tue, February 27, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Eboo Patel
This is our unabridged interview with Eboo Patel. “Diversity is a treasure,” says President and Founder of Interfaith America Eboo Patel. But what does “diversity” really mean? The term is found these days in public discourse and political debate, in boardrooms and on athletic fields. But Eboo argues that the way it plays out in the United States often misses the point entirely: instead of honoring identity and leaving room for disagreement, we settle for a flattening of culture, calling it “diversity.” “Coherent doesn’t mean univocal,” says Eboo. “In a democracy, you actually get to articulate your identity.” In this episode, Eboo describes why we should treasure our differences - especially religious differences - rather than treat them as insignificant, and provides new ways to frame polarizing issues around religion, race, and politics. Show Notes Similar episodes: David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier? Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French Resources mentioned this episode We Need to Build by Eboo Patel Acts of Faith by Eboo Patel Interfaith America’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM
Thu, February 22, 2024
Eboo Patel: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy
“Diversity is a treasure,” says President and Founder of Interfaith America Eboo Patel. But what does “diversity” really mean? The term is found these days in public discourse and political debate, in boardrooms and on athletic fields. But Eboo argues that the way it plays out in the United States often misses the point entirely: instead of honoring identity and leaving room for disagreement, we settle for a flattening of culture, calling it “diversity.” “Coherent doesn’t mean univocal,” says Eboo. “In a democracy, you actually get to articulate your identity.” In this episode, Eboo describes why we should treasure our differences - especially religious differences - rather than treat them as insignificant, and provides new ways to frame polarizing issues around religion, race, and politics. Show Notes Similar episodes: David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other? Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier? Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French Resources mentioned this episode We Need to Build by Eboo Patel Acts of Faith by Eboo Patel Interfaith America’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwL
Bonus · Wed, February 21, 2024
For Your Consideration: Your Mama's Kitchen with John Batiste
Sharing an episode of Your Mama’s Kitchen, a podcast about cuisine and culture, ingredients and identities, and the meals and memories that make us who we are. Every week, host Michele Norris talks to guests like Michelle Obama, Glennon Doyle, José Andrés and more. Together they explore the complexities of family life and how their earliest culinary experiences helped shape their personal and professional lives—and of course, each guest shares a recipe for a favorite dish from their youth so you can taste a bit of their story. In this episode, singer-songwriter Jon Batiste serenades us with his harmonica-keyboard while reminiscing on the sounds of his childhood kitchen in New Orleans. He describes what it was like to grow up in a big, musical family of jazz legends, and shares some of their favorite Christmas traditions—including competing to see who could make the best and truest gumbo. You can find more Your Mama’s Kitchen here . Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Member: Virtual Only | <a href="https://orders.nosmallendeavor.com/products/standar
Bonus · Tue, February 20, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Anthony Ray Hinton
This is our unabridged interview with Anthony Ray Hinton. “I don’t care whether you did or didn’t do it. I’m going to make sure you’re found guilty.” These were the words that Anthony Ray Hinton says put him on Alabama’s death row for nearly 3 decades for a murder he didn’t commit. In 2015, after numerous appeals, he was released after the US Supreme Court vacated the charges, and the State of Alabama dropped the case. Mr. Hinton is author of the New York Times bestseller, “The Sun Does Shine: How I Found Life and Freedom on Death Row.” His story recounts his harrowing decades on death row, and his intention to make choices for compassion and joy in the midst of the chaos of prison life, spending 23 hours every day in a 5 x 7 cell, and watching 54 individuals pass his cell on their way to the death chamber. “You can sit in that cell and be angry with the world,” he says, “or you can sit in that cell and try to find peace and joy. But you can't say you don't have a choice.” Similar episodes: Pervis Payne: The Death Penalty The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Jameel McGee and Andrew Collins: Dirty Cop, False Arrest, and Unexpected Consequences Resources mentioned this episode The Sun Does Shine by Anthony Ray Hinton The Sun Does Shine (Young Readers Edition) by Anthony Ray Hinton Go Tell It on the Mountain by James Baldwin PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stit
Thu, February 15, 2024
Anthony Ray Hinton: An Innocent Man on Death Row
“I don’t care whether you did or didn’t do it. I’m going to make sure you’re found guilty.” These were the words that Anthony Ray Hinton says put him on Alabama’s death row for nearly 3 decades for a murder he didn’t commit. In 2015, after numerous appeals, he was released after the US Supreme Court vacated the charges, and the State of Alabama dropped the case. Mr. Hinton is author of the New York Times bestseller, “The Sun Does Shine: How I Found Life and Freedom on Death Row.” His story recounts his harrowing decades on death row, and his intention to make choices for compassion and joy in the midst of the chaos of prison life, spending 23 hours every day in a 5 x 7 cell, and watching 54 individuals pass his cell on their way to the death chamber. “You can sit in that cell and be angry with the world,” he says, “or you can sit in that cell and try to find peace and joy. But you can't say you don't have a choice.” Similar episodes: Pervis Payne: The Death Penalty The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Jameel McGee and Andrew Collins: Dirty Cop, False Arrest, and Unexpected Consequences Resources mentioned this episode: The Sun Does Shine by Anthony Ray Hinton The Sun Does Shine (Young Readers Edition) by Anthony Ray Hinton Go Tell It on the Mountain by James Baldwin PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNv
Bonus · Tue, February 13, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Rob Reiner and Dan Partland
This is our unabridged interview with Rob Reiner and Dan Partland. What ideas mobilized people to storm the Capitol on January 6th? The new documentary “God & Country” from acclaimed actor and filmmaker Rob Reiner and director Dan Partland seeks to answer that question. Their journalism explores the motives, philosophies, and ideas behind Christian nationalism, and looks at the implications of those views and how they distort not only our constitutional republic, but Christianity itself. “We've got to find a way to live and not kill each other,” says Rob, “especially not over our ideas.” The film features interviews with experts from many different realms - including historians, theologians, political pundits, and more - in order to shed light on the intermix of power and religion in our day. In this episode, Rob and Dan describe their film, why they made it, and what they learned in the process. Show Notes Similar episodes: Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French Russell Moore: Against, and For, the Tribe Robert Jones: White Too Long Resources mentioned this episode ”God and Country” Trailer PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwLTRlZGQtOWM4MC1hYmI1MDEyOTliYzIvc
Thu, February 08, 2024
Rob Reiner and Dan Partland: Their New Film “God and Country”
What ideas mobilized people to storm the Capitol on January 6th? The new documentary “God & Country” from acclaimed actor and filmmaker Rob Reiner and director Dan Partland seeks to answer that question. Their journalism explores the motives, philosophies, and ideas behind Christian nationalism, and looks at the implications of those views and how they distort not only our constitutional republic, but Christianity itself. “We've got to find a way to live and not kill each other,” says Rob, “especially not over our ideas.” The film features interviews with experts from many different realms - including historians, theologians, political pundits, and more - in order to shed light on the intermix of power and religion in our day. In this episode, Rob and Dan describe their film, why they made it, and what they learned in the process. Show Notes Similar episodes: Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French Russell Moore: Against, and For, the Tribe Robert Jones: White Too Long Resources mentioned this episode ”God and Country” Trailer PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/w
Bonus · Tue, February 06, 2024
Unabridged Interview: David Brooks
This is our unabridged interview with David Brooks. “We’re in the middle of some sort of social crisis,” says New York Times columnist and bestselling author David Brooks. Politics and social discourse have become brutal. Loneliness, hopelessness, and suicide rates have been measured at all-time highs. Trust and friendship have been measured at all-time lows. But all is not lost, according to David. There is still a way forward, and it’s simpler than one might think. “The essential moral act is the act of attention,” he says. “Our goal should be to cast a just and loving attention on others.” In this episode, he discusses his new book, “How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen,” and how truly knowing others calls forth a better version of both oneself and one’s community. A warning: this episode contains mention of suicide. If you or someone you know is in crisis, contact the Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. Show Notes Similar episodes: David Brooks: The Road to Character Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Curt Thompson: The Power Of Being Seen Resources mentioned this episode How to Know a Person by David Brooks The Sovereignty of Good by Iris Murdoch PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTA
Bonus · Fri, February 02, 2024
For Your Consideration: How God Works with David DeSteno
We're pleased on occasion to share with you an episode from other podcasts which we find important and helpful. You may have heard our episode with renowned psychologist David DeSteno, on his book How God Works. I very much enjoyed my conversation with Dave, and found his approach helpful and refreshing. On his podcast, by the same name—How God Works—Dave talks with religious leaders, scientists, and intellectuals from various fields and explores the overlap between scientific research and the teachings of various wisdom and faith traditions. The episode we share today I find particularly helpful: one on hope, and the cultivation of hopefulness in a world marred by seemingly intractable violence and hostility. Dave interviews Pulitzer-prize winning journalist Nicholas Kristof, who discusses ways he's learned to maintain hopefulness even while covering some of the most horrific instances of violence and war-making; and Roshi Joan Halifax, founder of Upaya Zen Center in Santa Fe, NM, about the notion of wise hope, the equanimity it can bring, and the fierce compassion it can unleash. We hope you enjoy this episode of How God Works and consider subscribing. -Lee C. Camp Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Member: <a href="https://orders.nosmallendeavor.com/products/vi
Thu, February 01, 2024
David Brooks: Can We Save Society By Knowing Each Other?
“We’re in the middle of some sort of social crisis,” says New York Times columnist and bestselling author David Brooks. Politics and social discourse have become brutal. Loneliness, hopelessness, and suicide rates have been measured at all-time highs. Trust and friendship have been measured at all-time lows. But all is not lost, according to David. There is still a way forward, and it’s simpler than one might think. “The essential moral act is the act of attention,” he says. “Our goal should be to cast a just and loving attention on others.” In this episode, he discusses his new book, “How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen,” and how truly knowing others calls forth a better version of both oneself and one’s community. A warning: this episode contains mention of suicide. If you or someone you know is in crisis, contact the Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. Show Notes Similar episodes: David Brooks: The Road to Character Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Curt Thompson: The Power Of Being Seen Resources mentioned this episode How to Know a Person by David Brooks The Sovereignty of Good by Iris Murdoch PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi0
Bonus · Tue, January 30, 2024
Unabridged Interview: John Dear
This is our unabridged episode with John Dear. How do you live a good life in a world of 30 wars, 13,000 nuclear weapons, 4 billion people in poverty, racism, gun violence, child hunger, and catastrophic climate change? This is the question posed by activist and Catholic priest John Dear. For years, John has taken part in peace movements alongside folks like Coretta King, Thich Nhat Hanh, and Desmond Tutu. In this episode, he has some unbelievable stories that answer his question in a provocative way. To live a good life, he argues, you cannot support war, nuclear weapons, or violence. “To do the good,” in his words, “means to stop the killing.” Show Notes Similar episodes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson The Business of War: Justin Barringer Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Resources mentioned this episode: German Catholics and Hitler’s Wars by Gordon Zahn Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl The Nonviolent Life by John Dear The Beatitudes Center John Dear’s website Transcript for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/" rel="
Thu, January 25, 2024
John Dear: How To Be Nonviolent (Best of NSE)
How do you live a good life in a world of 30 wars, 13,000 nuclear weapons, 4 billion people in poverty, racism, gun violence, child hunger, and catastrophic climate change? This is the question posed by activist and Catholic priest John Dear. For years, John has taken part in peace movements alongside folks like Coretta King, Thich Nhat Hanh, and Desmond Tutu. In this episode, he has some unbelievable stories that answer his question in a provocative way. To live a good life, he argues, you cannot support war, nuclear weapons, or violence. “To do the good,” in his words, “means to stop the killing.” Show Notes Similar episodes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson The Business of War: Justin Barringer Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Resources mentioned this episode: German Catholics and Hitler’s Wars by Gordon Zahn Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl The Nonviolent Life by John Dear The Beatitudes Center John Dear’s website Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.
Bonus · Tue, January 23, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Martin Sheen
This is our unabridged interview with Martin Sheen. In this episode, Lee sits down with the former President of the United States… At least, that’s how many listeners may know Martin Sheen, an award-winning actor known for his roles in “Apocalypse Now” and “The Departed,” and perhaps most famously for playing President Jed Bartlet in the hit TV series “The West Wing.” But offscreen, Martin is perhaps best described as an ardent Catholic peace activist who has been arrested over 60 times. In this episode, he tells his whole story, full of humor and grace all the way from his childhood, to his acting career, to activism alongside James Lawson and John Dear, and much more. Show Notes Similar episodes: The Architect of The American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Resources mentioned this episode: The West Wing Cathedral Scene PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/" rel="nofollow"
Thu, January 18, 2024
Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist (Best of NSE)
In this episode, Lee sits down with the former President of the United States… At least, that’s how many listeners may know Martin Sheen, an award-winning actor known for his roles in “Apocalypse Now” and “The Departed,” and perhaps most famously for playing President Jed Bartlet in the hit TV series “The West Wing.” But offscreen, Martin is perhaps best described as an ardent Catholic peace activist who has been arrested over 60 times. In this episode, he tells his whole story, full of humor and grace all the way from his childhood, to his acting career, to activism alongside James Lawson and John Dear, and much more. Show Notes Similar episodes: The Architect of The American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Resources mentioned this episode: The West Wing Cathedral Scene PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/leeccamp" r
Tue, January 16, 2024
Unabridged Interview: James Lawson
This is our unabridged interview with James Lawson. The US Civil Rights Movement, like Gandhi's Indian Independence Movement, was famously set apart by its employment of non-violent resistance methods. But have you ever wondered how such a movement was possible on so large a scale? In this episode, we are honored to have the man who Martin Luther King Jr. called friend, mentor, and the very conscience and architect of the Civil Rights Movement: Reverend James Lawson. Now in his 90’s, he discusses the United States’ past and present, and what it took to organize a whole population across the country to fight back without throwing a punch. “We started the public desegregation of the nation,” he says, “and we did it without hating anybody.” Show Notes Similar episodes: Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Dr. Fred Gray: Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Resources mentioned this episode: Fellowship Of Reconciliation (F.O.R.) Rev. James Lawson’s Church: Holman United Methodist PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/" r
Thu, January 11, 2024
James Lawson: The Architect of the United States Civil Rights Movement (Best of NSE)
The US Civil Rights Movement, like Gandhi's Indian Independence Movement, was famously set apart by its employment of non-violent resistance methods. But have you ever wondered how such a movement was possible on so large a scale? In this episode, we are honored to have the man who Martin Luther King Jr. called friend, mentor, and the very conscience and architect of the Civil Rights Movement: Reverend James Lawson. Now in his 90’s, he discusses the United States’ past and present, and what it took to organize a whole population across the country to fight back without throwing a punch. “We started the public desegregation of the nation,” he says, “and we did it without hating anybody.” Show Notes Similar episodes: Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Dr. Fred Gray: Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist Resources mentioned this episode: Fellowship Of Reconciliation (F.O.R.) Rev. James Lawson’s Church: Holman United Methodist PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.
Bonus · Tue, January 09, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Angela Duckworth
What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common? Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.” Surprisingly, it turns out neither talent nor genius is the answer. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.” In this episode, Angela Duckworth explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life. Show Notes Similar episodes: Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan Resources mentioned this episode Grit by Angela Duckworth Character Lab PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/" rel="nofollow" target="_bla
Thu, January 04, 2024
Angela Duckworth: Is Grit the Secret to Success? (Best of NSE)
What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common? Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.” Surprisingly, it turns out neither talent nor genius is the answer. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.” In this episode, Angela Duckworth explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life. Show Notes Similar episodes: Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan Resources mentioned this episode Grit by Angela Duckworth Character Lab PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Episode Transcript Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram
Bonus · Tue, January 02, 2024
Unabridged Interview: Elise Hu
This is our unabridged episode with Elise Hu. What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives? Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery. In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho Resources mentioned this episode Flawless by Elise Hu PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <a href="https://w
Thu, December 28, 2023
Elise Hu: Obsessed With Beauty (Best of NSE)
What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives? Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery. In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho Resources mentioned this episode Flawless by Elise Hu PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
Bonus · Wed, December 27, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Tom and Tony Bancroft
Twins Tom and Tony Bancroft grew up sharing a small bedroom, trying to out-draw each other. Today, they have long careers under their belts working for Disney, Warner Brothers, and many more esteemed animation studios. Their life’s work is a testament to the power of passion, imagination, faith, and brotherhood. In this episode, they discuss how they became animators at the world’s most famous companies, what it’s like to be storytellers for the masses, and what their faith has meant to them over the course of their lives. Show Notes: Similar episodes Johnnyswim: Reality TV, the Cuban Revolution, and a Disco Queen Mother Drew Holcomb: Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss Resources mentioned this episode The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Subscr
Bonus · Tue, December 26, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Heather Holleman
This is our unabridged episode with Heather Holleman. How important is it to be a good conversationalist? In an age of widespread loneliness, close relationships are at a premium, and it’s harder than ever to find common ground, even with those we spend time with on a daily basis. According to Heather Holleman, this is due in part to the fact that we have lost the ability to have what she calls “good conversations.” “Good conversations create personal closeness,” she says. “When you have good conversations, it could intervene in the loneliness epidemic.” In this episode, she discusses her book “The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting in an Age of Isolation and Inactivity,” in which she offers loads of practical tips for becoming better listeners, talkers, question askers, and ultimately, human beings. Show Notes: Similar episodes Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: Lessons from the World’s Longest Scientific Study on Happiness Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Resources mentioned this episode The Six Conversations by Heather Holleman Transcript for Abridged Episode Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/" rel="n
Thu, December 21, 2023
Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation (Best of NSE)
How important is it to be a good conversationalist? In an age of widespread loneliness, close relationships are at a premium, and it’s harder than ever to find common ground, even with those we spend time with on a daily basis. According to Heather Holleman, this is due in part to the fact that we have lost the ability to have what she calls “good conversations.” “Good conversations create personal closeness,” she says. “When you have good conversations, it could intervene in the loneliness epidemic.” In this episode, she discusses her book “The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting in an Age of Isolation and Inactivity,” in which she offers loads of practical tips for becoming better listeners, talkers, question askers, and ultimately, human beings. Show Notes: Similar episodes Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: Lessons from the World’s Longest Scientific Study on Happiness Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Resources mentioned this episode The Six Conversations by Heather Holleman Episode Transcript Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a hre
Bonus · Tue, December 19, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Rebecca DeYoung
This is our unabridged interview with Rebecca DeYoung. Sin. It's a word seen by many as a "religious word," one which evokes all manner of images. Like, maybe Las Vegas. Or the temptation of Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis. But many see it as an irrelevant word to their contemporary life. Our guest today has studied what are traditionally referred to as the seven deadly sins. She proposes that the medieval taxonomy of sin is actually -quite- relevant to our lives today; and that it can steer us -away- from destructive ways of life, and toward habits, practices, dispositions which make possible, a better life. Rebecca DeYoung is author of the award-winning book “Glittering Vices: A New Look at the Seven Deadly Sins and Their Remedies” and a Professor of Ethics, History, and Philosophy at Calvin College. Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Subscriber: NSE+ See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon S
Thu, December 14, 2023
Rebecca DeYoung: The 7 Deadly Sins (Best of NSE)
Sin. It's a word seen by many as "religious word," one which evokes all manner of images. Like, maybe Las Vegas. Or the temptation of Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis. But many see it as an irrelevant word to their contemporary life. Our guest today has studied what are traditionally referred to as the seven deadly sins. She proposes that the medieval taxonomy of sin is actually -quite- relevant to our lives today; and that it can steer us -away- from destructive ways of life, and toward habits, practices, dispositions which make possible, a better life. Rebecca DeYoung is author of the award-winning book “Glittering Vices: A New Look at the Seven Deadly Sins and Their Remedies” and a Professor of Ethics, History, and Philosophy at Calvin College. Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Subscriber: NSE+ See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising progr
Bonus · Tue, December 12, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Peter Harris and Jo Swinney
This is our unabridged interview with Peter Harris and Jo Swinney. “If you live in community, you have no choice but to tell a true story.” Peter Harris, Anglican clergyman and founder of environmental non-profit A Rocha, lost his beloved wife Miranda in a car accident in South Africa. Miranda left behind a grieving community, and an unfinished book. Their daughter, Jo Swinney, found her mother’s unfinished book, full of wisdom and stories from a life dedicated to hospitality. She finished and published it, and in the process, learned much about both grief and joy. In this episode, Peter and Jo sit down in front of a live audience to discuss the legacy of hospitality and faith that Miranda left, what it has been like to grieve, and what it might be like to see a deteriorating world with the same hope that Miranda did. Show Notes: Similar episodes Peter Harris: The Collapse of the Biosphere Katharine Hayhoe: “The Most Polarized Issue in the United States” Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode A Place at the Table by Jo Swinney and Miranda Harris A Rocha International Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/" rel=
Thu, December 07, 2023
Peter Harris and Jo Swinney: A Place at the Table
“If you live in community, you have no choice but to tell a true story.” Peter Harris, Anglican clergyman and founder of environmental non-profit A Rocha, lost his beloved wife Miranda in a car accident in South Africa. Miranda left behind a grieving community, and an unfinished book. Their daughter, Jo Swinney, found her mother’s unfinished book, full of wisdom and stories from a life dedicated to hospitality. She finished and published it, and in the process, learned much about both grief and joy. In this episode, Peter and Jo sit down in front of a live audience to discuss the legacy of hospitality and faith that Miranda left, what it has been like to grieve, and what it might be like to see a deteriorating world with the same hope that Miranda did. Show Notes: Similar episodes Peter Harris: The Collapse of the Biosphere Katharine Hayhoe: “The Most Polarized Issue in the United States” Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode A Place at the Table by Jo Swinney and Miranda Harris A Rocha International Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/N
Bonus · Tue, December 05, 2023
Unabridged Interview: N.T. Wright
This is our unabridged interview with N.T. Wright. How does art affect our theology? “Most Christians believe that the aim of the game is to go to heaven when you die. That’s wrong,” says N.T. Wright, Anglican bishop and bestselling author. In fact, he argues, most Christians have gotten it completely backwards. We don’t go there when we die - it comes to us when we live. In this episode, we discuss how such a drastic theological error can be widely accepted, and why the stories we tell each other through art have a greater impact on our beliefs than we think. Show Notes: Similar episodes William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Rebecca DeYoung: Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life John Mark Comer: The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry Resources mentioned this episode Ask N.T. Wright Anything Podcast Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/leecc
Thu, November 30, 2023
N.T. Wright and the Bancroft Brothers: Theology and Poetry
How does art affect our theology? “Most Christians believe that the aim of the game is to go to heaven when you die. That’s wrong,” says N.T. Wright, Anglican bishop and bestselling author. In fact, he argues, most Christians have gotten it completely backwards. We don’t go there when we die - it comes to us when we live. In this episode, we discuss how such a drastic theological error can be widely accepted, and why the stories we tell each other through art have a greater impact on our beliefs than we think. Plus, we hear on the subject from two master storytellers, Tom and Tony Bancroft. Show Notes: Similar episodes William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Rebecca DeYoung: Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life John Mark Comer: The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry Resources mentioned this episode Ask N.T. Wright Anything Podcast Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | <a href="h
Thu, November 23, 2023
NSE Thanksgiving Special: Conversation and Gratitude
Happy Thanksgiving! How can one be grateful during difficult times? And how do we talk to one another in a polarized world? In this episode, we bring you four conversations to tee you up for a successful and meaningful time with family and friends. First, we hear from six-time Grammy-winner Amy Grant on her newfound gratitude in the wake of a traumatic bike accident. Then, Heather Holleman gives us all practical tips on having great bonding conversations that make people feel seen and heard, transcending the things that divide us. Third, community organizer and activist Diane Latiker shares how she opened up her home and changed the trajectory of a neighborhood through hospitality. Lastly, author Oliver Burkeman reveals the key to living in the moment and transforming the mundane into something meaningful. Altogether, it’s the perfect toolkit for getting in the right frame of mind and heading into the holidays with gratitude and conversation. Show Notes: Similar episodes Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation America’s Gun Epidemic: David Hemenway, Chris Hays, Carly Crouch, and Diane Latiker Oliver Burkeman: Time Management for Mortals Resources mentioned this episode 4,000 Weeks by Oliver Burkeman Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCyab0&list=PL2Rk2D2fHz5lmjxW
Thu, November 16, 2023
NSE Thanksgiving Special: No Small Endeavor Live at the Ryman
Every year on the Sunday before Thanksgiving, No Small Endeavor hosts a live variety show in downtown Nashville featuring esteemed musicians and guest speakers. In 2022, we were joined at the world-famous Ryman Auditorium by Americana duo Johnnyswim and psychiatrist Curt Thompson. It was a night of laughter, story, and song, all to celebrate hospitality, vulnerability, and gratitude. In this episode, we feature some of the highlights from that show. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson Reality TV, The Cuban Revolution, and a Disco Queen Mother: Johnnyswim Welcome Table: A Thanksgiving Special Resources mentioned this episode The Soul of Shame by Curt Thompson Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: <a href="https://nosmallendeavor.com/" rel="nofol
Bonus · Tue, November 14, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Michael Budde
Should Christians condone war? There is a long history of debate among Christians regarding the use of violence. Is “turning the other cheek” an excuse to take oppression lying down? Should Christians adhere to national military obligations? Is there such a thing as a “just war,” or is all killing anti-Christian? Michael Budde has been studying these questions for a long time. In this episode, he discusses why he thinks Christians are called to total non-violence, why nationalism is responsible for many of the church’s historical failings, and what a counter-cultural version of faith might look like. Show Notes Similar episodes: Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear The Business of War: Justin Barringer Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right Resources mentioned this episode Just War as Christian Discipleship by Daniel Bell No Bars to Manhood by Daniel Berrigan PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us:
Thu, November 09, 2023
Michael Budde: Is War Ever Just?
Should Christians condone war? There is a long history of debate among Christians regarding the use of violence. Is “turning the other cheek” an excuse to take oppression lying down? Should Christians adhere to national military obligations? Is there such a thing as a “just war,” or is all killing anti-Christian? Michael Budde has been studying these questions for a long time. In this episode, he discusses why he thinks Christians are called to total non-violence, why nationalism is responsible for many of the church’s historical failings, and what a counter-cultural version of faith might look like. Show Notes Similar episodes: Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear The Business of War: Justin Barringer Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right Resources mentioned this episode Just War as Christian Discipleship by Daniel Bell No Bars to Manhood by Daniel Berrigan PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="http
Bonus · Tue, November 07, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Jesuitical
This is our unabridged episode with Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless, co-hosts of Jesuitical. Do young people care about religion? Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless have good reason to think so. Together, they host the Jesuitical podcast, which explicitly calls itself “a podcast for young Catholics.” “Most people are left with trying to solve 27-year-old problems with an eighth grade religious formation,” says Zac. The solution, they believe, is not to take one’s religion less seriously, but more. In this episode, they discuss the landscape of faith for young people in today's culture, as well as some of the pressing issues of abuse and injustice that they believe the Church, and American society at large, must address. Show Notes Similar episodes: How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church: Katelyn Beaty Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right Resources mentioned this episode: Jesuitical podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <
Thu, November 02, 2023
Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See The World
Do young people care about religion? Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless have good reason to think so. Together, they host the Jesuitical podcast, which explicitly calls itself “a podcast for young Catholics.” “Most people are left with trying to solve 27-year-old problems with an eighth grade religious formation,” says Zac. The solution, they believe, is not to take one’s religion less seriously, but more. In this episode, they discuss the landscape of faith for young people in today's culture, as well as some of the pressing issues of abuse and injustice that they believe the Church, and American society at large, must address. Show Notes Similar episodes: How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church: Katelyn Beaty Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right Resources mentioned this episode: Jesuitical podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript Link Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/
Wed, November 01, 2023
For Your Consideration: The Gist featuring Rainn Wilson and Eric Weiner
Today, we’re sharing a special episode from The Gist—hosted by Mike Pesca. Rainn Wilson is the host of Peacock's The Geography Of Bliss, based on the book of the same name written by Eric Weiner. Like Weiner before him, Wilson (who played the legendary Dwight Schrute on The Office) travels the world in search of locally sourced happiness secrets. For some reason, Mike gives them both a hard time, and everyone winds up angrier at each other than one might expect from an exploration of bliss. Mike Pesca has established a seven-year connection to his audience as host of The Gist. For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea. Listen to more episodes of The Gist and follow the podcast: https://pod.link/873667927 Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Bonus · Tue, October 31, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Kelly Corrigan
This is our unabridged episode with Kelly Corrigan. “What percentage of all pain in the world is related to wanting to belong?” Kelly Corrigan - who you may know as a New York Times bestselling author and the host of a number of popular radio and TV shows - was a young mother of two when she and her beloved father were both diagnosed with cancer. It was, to say the least, an immensely difficult time. Yet, she found her way through it by relying heavily on her tendency to be vulnerable, rather than hiding her pain from others. “It's just fodder for us to be closer,” she says of her suffering. “The point is to connect.” In this episode, she shares her story, along with much wisdom gleaned from a life of leaning into vulnerability. Show Notes Similar episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Resources mentioned this episode: Tell Me More by Kelly Corrigan The Middle Place by Kelly Corrigan Tell Me More on PBS Kelly Corrigan Wonders podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript Link for Abridged Episode Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0N
Thu, October 26, 2023
Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection
“What percentage of all pain in the world is related to wanting to belong?” Kelly Corrigan - who you may know as a New York Times bestselling author and the host of a number of popular radio and TV shows - was a young mother of two when she and her beloved father were both diagnosed with cancer. It was, to say the least, an immensely difficult time. Yet, she found her way through it by relying heavily on her tendency to be vulnerable, rather than hiding her pain from others. “It's just fodder for us to be closer,” she says of her suffering. “The point is to connect.” In this episode, she shares her story, along with much wisdom gleaned from a life of leaning into vulnerability. Show Notes Similar episodes: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded William Paul Young: Author of The Shack Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known Resources mentioned this episode: Tell Me More by Kelly Corrigan The Middle Place by Kelly Corrigan Tell Me More on PBS Kelly Corrigan Wonders podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript Link Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwLTRlZGQtOWM4MC1hYmI1MDEyOTliYzIvcG9kY
Bonus · Tue, October 24, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Jennifer Wiseman
This is our unabridged episode with Jennifer Wiseman. Astrophysicist Jennifer Wiseman is no stranger to wonder. Spending her days studying the formation of stars and planets, she often finds herself in awe of both the vastness of the universe and its intricate detail. She’s also a practicing Christian, who sees science as complementary rather than contrary to her faith. And did we mention she discovered a comet while on a college field trip? In this episode, taped in front of a live audience at Nashville’s Sudekum Planetarium under a projection of images from the James Webb Telescope, she discusses her work and her faith, and how their intersection might give helpful insight about the meaning of our lives. Show Notes Similar episodes: Science, Faith, and Einstein: Alister McGrath The Francis Collins Interview The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith: David Wilkinson Resources mentioned this episode: Webb Telescope Website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://t
Thu, October 19, 2023
Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder
Astrophysicist Jennifer Wiseman is no stranger to wonder. Spending her days studying the formation of stars and planets, she often finds herself in awe of both the vastness of the universe and its intricate detail. She’s also a practicing Christian, who sees science as complementary rather than contrary to her faith. And did we mention she discovered a comet while on a college field trip? In this episode, taped in front of a live audience at Nashville’s Sudekum Planetarium under a projection of images from the James Webb Telescope, she discusses her work and her faith, and how their intersection might give helpful insight about the meaning of our lives. Show Notes Similar episodes: Science, Faith, and Einstein: Alister McGrath The Francis Collins Interview The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith: David Wilkinson Resources mentioned this episode: Webb Telescope Website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | <a href="
Bonus · Tue, October 17, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Meghan O'Gieblyn
This is our unabridged interview with Meghan O’Gieblyn. Will technology change what it means to be human? Thanks to the rise and implementation of Artificial Intelligence (AI), the common sci-fi trope of a machine-perpetuated apocalypse has taken on a new gravity in recent days. But is Chat GPT really going to rebel against humans, or even change things very much at all? “We're at the point where we do have technologies that are incredibly powerful,” says writer and commentator Meghan O’Gieblyn. “They're able to do things that they weren't programmed to do.” In this episode, Meghan discusses AI in great detail, and lays out what she believes to be the social, political, ethical, and even theological issues at stake as humanity learns to live with new technology. Show Notes Similar episodes: The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke The Most Polarized Issue in the United States: Katharine Hayhoe Beyond Fake News: Justin McBrayer Resources mentioned this episode: Meghan’s website God, Human, Animal, Machine by Meghan O’Gieblyn PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/
Thu, October 12, 2023
Meghan O’Gieblyn: Technology and Humanity
Will technology change what it means to be human? Thanks to the rise and implementation of Artificial Intelligence (AI), the common sci-fi trope of a machine-perpetuated apocalypse has taken on a new gravity in recent days. But is Chat GPT really going to rebel against humans, or even change things very much at all? “We're at the point where we do have technologies that are incredibly powerful,” says writer and commentator Meghan O’Gieblyn. “They're able to do things that they weren't programmed to do.” In this episode, Meghan discusses AI in great detail, and lays out what she believes to be the social, political, ethical, and even theological issues at stake as humanity learns to live with new technology. Show Notes Similar episodes: The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke The Most Polarized Issue in the United States: Katharine Hayhoe Beyond Fake News: Justin McBrayer Resources mentioned this episode: Meghan’s website God, Human, Animal, Machine by Meghan O’Gieblyn PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | <str
Bonus · Tue, October 10, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Amy Grant
Five weeks before her 16th birthday in 1976, Amy Grant was offered her first record deal. Now, after tens of millions of record sales, six Grammy awards, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and a receipt of Kennedy Center Honors, she is widely recognized as the “Queen of Christian Pop.” From the outside, one might assume that Amy must be a character with a personality larger than life. But in this exclusive interview, Amy opens up about her career as a singer, her family life, and her faith, all against the backdrop of a troubling past few years which have included recovering from open-heart surgery and a severe bike accident. Through it all, she showcases what truly makes her an anomaly. In spite of her fame, she remains undoubtedly grounded to a life of quiet, peaceful fulfillment. Show Notes: Similar episodes Truth-telling, Anger, and Race: Vince Gill “Does This Make My Butt Look Big?”: Ashley Cleveland Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss: Drew Holcomb Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Resources mentioned this episode Amy Grant’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcript for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google |<a href="https://www.you
Thu, October 05, 2023
Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded
Five weeks before her 16th birthday in 1976, Amy Grant was offered her first record deal. Now, after tens of millions of record sales, six Grammy awards, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and a receipt of Kennedy Center Honors, she is widely recognized as the “Queen of Christian Pop.” From the outside, one might assume that Amy must be a character with a personality larger than life. But in this exclusive interview, Amy opens up about her career as a singer, her family life, and her faith, all against the backdrop of a troubling past few years which have included recovering from open-heart surgery and a severe bike accident. Through it all, she showcases what truly makes her an anomaly. In spite of her fame, she remains undoubtedly grounded to a life of quiet, peaceful fulfillment. Show Notes: Similar episodes Truth-telling, Anger, and Race: Vince Gill “Does This Make My Butt Look Big?”: Ashley Cleveland Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss: Drew Holcomb Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Resources mentioned this episode Amy Grant’s website PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google |<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watc
Wed, October 04, 2023
Announcing NSE+
We’re excited to announce our new subscriber program NSE+ , a $5/month subscription including a monthly bonus episode from Lee Camp, designed to give you practical steps based on the conversations we have on No Small Endeavor. PLUS, with a subscription you’ll receive ad-free listening and discounts to our live shows. This monthly bonus conversation between Lee Camp and producer, Jakob Lewis, highlights practices and habits they have learned from the many guests on the show over the years. They also speak openly and honestly about the many hindrances and struggles they have pursuing a good life. We'll walk you through practices on the podcast and invite you in to participate and share your experiences, to be featured or discussed on NSE+. JOIN TODAY Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Bonus · Tue, October 03, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz
This is our unabridged episode with Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz. For all our modern so-called progress, global happiness levels have been consistently going down, especially in the richest and most developed countries. So what does it really take to be happy? Since 1938, Harvard scientists have been closely studying the lives of over 700 individuals to answer that very question. In this episode, two of the scientists who are now in charge of the study - Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz - discuss the results of what is known as the “world’s longest study on happiness,” and describe why they believe that meaningful relationships are the key to living a long, happy, flourishing life. Show Notes: Similar episodes David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier? The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke and John Mark Comer The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson The Art of Conversation: Heather Holleman Resources mentioned this episode The Good Life by Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz Robert Waldinger’s TED Talk Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam WISER tool for relationships: Watch, Interpret, Select, Engage, and Reflect PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://pod
Thu, September 28, 2023
Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: The Good Life - Lessons from the World’s Longest Study on Happiness (Best of NSE)
For all our modern so-called progress, global happiness levels have been consistently going down, especially in the richest and most developed countries. So what does it really take to be happy? Since 1938, Harvard scientists have been closely studying the lives of over 700 individuals to answer that very question. In this episode, two of the scientists who are now in charge of the study - Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz - discuss the results of what is known as the “world’s longest study on happiness,” and describe why they believe that meaningful relationships are the key to living a long, happy, flourishing life. Show Notes: Similar episodes David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier? The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke and John Mark Comer The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson The Art of Conversation: Heather Holleman Resources mentioned this episode The Good Life by Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz Robert Waldinger’s TED Talk Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam WISER tool for relationships: Watch, Interpret, Select, Engage, and Reflect PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5
Bonus · Tue, September 26, 2023
Unabridged Interview: William Paul Young
This is our unabridged episode with William Paul Young. At age 50, William Paul Young wrote the New York Times best-selling novel “The Shack” as a gift to his kids—only printing copies for his family and friends. Today, it has sold 25 million copies and been turned into a major motion picture. 11 years prior to writing “The Shack,” Paul’s wife discovered he was having an extra-marital affair. With nothing left to hide, he began a journey toward healing and wholeness: dealing with childhood abuse, religious trauma, a host of broken relationships, and a life of constant, exhausting image-management. Subsequently, he wrote “The Shack” in an attempt to express the nature of what he calls “Divine Love”. In this episode, Paul shares how love, grace, and healing only happen in the present moment, wisdom he gleaned from seeing his own life saved from the brink of falling apart. Show Notes: Similar episodes Parker Palmer: Courage, Vocation, Paradox Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson Resources mentioned this episode The Shack by William Paul Young The Body Keeps The Score by Bessel van der Kolk PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google |<a href="https://www.youtube.
Thu, September 21, 2023
William Paul Young: Author of The Shack (Best of NSE)
At age 50, William Paul Young wrote the New York Times best-selling novel “The Shack” as a gift to his kids—only printing copies for his family and friends. Today, it has sold 25 million copies and been turned into a major motion picture. 11 years prior to writing “The Shack,” Paul’s wife discovered he was having an extra-marital affair. With nothing left to hide, he began a journey toward healing and wholeness: dealing with childhood abuse, religious trauma, a host of broken relationships, and a life of constant, exhausting image-management. Subsequently, he wrote “The Shack” in an attempt to express the nature of what he calls “Divine Love”. In this episode, Paul shares how love, grace, and healing only happen in the present moment, wisdom he gleaned from seeing his own life saved from the brink of falling apart. Show Notes: Similar episodes Parker Palmer: Courage, Vocation, Paradox Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson Resources mentioned this episode The Shack by William Paul Young The Body Keeps The Score by Bessel van der Kolk PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter
Bonus · Tue, September 19, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Esau McCaulley
This is our unabridged interview with Esau McCaulley. What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” When he was asked to give the eulogy at his father’s funeral, Esau was sparked to examine his own childhood and dig into his family’s past. In the process, he engaged with the complexity of US history, and its impact on some of the most important questions of our time. In this episode, Esau discusses what he uncovered, and, careful not to generalize, describes what the experience taught him about race, faith, and the culture of the South in the United States. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho White Too Long: Robert Jones Resources mentioned this episode How Far to the Promised Land by Esau McCaulley PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon |<a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d
Thu, September 14, 2023
Esau McCaulley: How Far to the Promised Land?
What is it like growing up Black in the American South? The question is too particular to answer with abstraction. Instead, Esau McCaulley answers it in the most personal, humble way available, by telling the story of his family in his new memoir, “How Far to the Promised Land: One Black Family's Story of Hope and Survival in the American South.” When he was asked to give the eulogy at his father’s funeral, Esau was sparked to examine his own childhood and dig into his family’s past. In the process, he engaged with the complexity of US history, and its impact on some of the most important questions of our time. In this episode, Esau discusses what he uncovered, and, careful not to generalize, describes what the experience taught him about race, faith, and the culture of the South in the United States. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho White Too Long: Robert Jones Resources mentioned this episode How Far to the Promised Land by Esau McCaulley PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCyab0&list=P
Bonus · Tue, September 12, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Eddie Glaude
This is our unabridged interview with Eddie Glaude. Why are there different narratives around race in the United States? Some believe that the US is a “shining city on a hill” which stands as a beacon of truth and justice in the world. But those paying attention to the country’s inner conflicts - most notably its violent, graphic history of deep-seated racism - sense some major contradictions in such a narrative. To use the famous words of James Baldwin, such idealism is “The Lie” that the country has been trying to preserve since its inception. In this episode, Dr. Eddie Glaude discusses his book Begin Again: James Baldwin's America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own , which calls for a reckoning for the people and institutions responsible for perpetuating “The Lie,” and offers hopeful counter-truth that he believes can help us reform and reset after the wrongs that have been done. Show Notes Similar episodes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice: Quincy Byrdsong Resources mentioned this episode: Begin Again: James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own by Eddie Glaude PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube </p
Thu, September 07, 2023
Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin's America (Best of NSE)
Why are there different narratives around race in the United States? Some believe that the US is a “shining city on a hill” which stands as a beacon of truth and justice in the world. But those paying attention to the country’s inner conflicts - most notably its violent, graphic history of deep-seated racism - sense some major contradictions in such a narrative. To use the famous words of James Baldwin, such idealism is “The Lie” that the country has been trying to preserve since its inception. In this episode, Dr. Eddie Glaude discusses his book Begin Again: James Baldwin's America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own , which calls for a reckoning for the people and institutions responsible for perpetuating “The Lie,” and offers hopeful counter-truth that he believes can help us reform and reset after the wrongs that have been done. Show Notes Similar episodes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice: Quincy Byrdsong Resources mentioned this episode: Begin Again: James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own by Eddie Glaude PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/" rel="nofoll
Bonus · Tue, September 05, 2023
Unabridged Interview: David DeSteno
This is our unabridged interview with David Desteno. Does religion make you happier? These days, many of us are prone to see religion as an artifact of pre-scientific humanity, full of non-scientific claims. For that reason, religion often gets written off as having no measurable value for everyday life. But what if the so-called goods of religion could be studied? In his most recent book How God Works, psychologist David DeSteno, suggests that religion has indeed been studied in this way, and that the results could change the way religion is viewed in the public sphere. In this episode, we hear from David as he discusses the ways the world’s great religious traditions line up with cutting-edge psychological and neuroscientific findings - in other words, the ways in which religion leads to a longer, happier, healthier life. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson What Hath Christianity to do with Psychology?: Mark McMinn The Power of Sabbath Rest: Judith Shulevitz Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life: Rebecca DeYoung Resources mentioned this episode How God Works by David Desteno How God Works Podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwLTRlZGQtOWM4MC1hYmI1MDE
Thu, August 31, 2023
David DeSteno: Can Religion Make You Happier? The Surprising Scientific Findings of Ancient Religious Practice (Best of NSE)
Does religion make you happier? These days, many of us are prone to see religion as an artifact of pre-scientific humanity, full of non-scientific claims. For that reason, religion often gets written off as having no measurable value for everyday life. But what if the so-called goods of religion could be studied? In his most recent book How God Works, psychologist David DeSteno, suggests that religion has indeed been studied in this way, and that the results could change the way religion is viewed in the public sphere. In this episode, we hear from David as he discusses the ways the world’s great religious traditions line up with cutting-edge psychological and neuroscientific findings - in other words, the ways in which religion leads to a longer, happier, healthier life. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson What Hath Christianity to do with Psychology?: Mark McMinn The Power of Sabbath Rest: Judith Shulevitz Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life: Rebecca DeYoung Resources mentioned this episode How God Works by David Desteno How God Works Podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | <a href="h
Bonus · Tue, August 29, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Johnnyswim
This is our unabridged interview with Johnnyswim. What is it like to be a famous musical duo, on the road all the time, and married with kids? That’s the life of Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez, more widely known as folk-pop band Johnnyswim, whose eclectic life is put on full display in their two reality television shows, “The Johnnyswim Show” and “In the Kitchen with Abner + Amanda.” Amanda's mother was the legendary Disco Queen Donna Summer; meanwhile, Abner's family experienced the intense political turmoil of 20th century Cuba, emigrating to the United States in the Mariel Boatlift in 1980. In this exclusive interview, they discuss everything from family history, to touring life, to activism and faith. Plus, we include their musical performance from a No Small Endeavor show at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. Show Notes: Similar episodes Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Why The New Respects Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho Resources mentioned this episode Johnnyswim’s Website “Ring the Bells” live performance at the Ryman PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, August 24, 2023
Johnnyswim: Reality TV, The Cuban Revolution, and a Disco Queen Mother (Best of NSE)
What is it like to be a famous musical duo, on the road all the time, and married with kids? That’s the life of Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez, more widely known as folk-pop band Johnnyswim, whose eclectic life is put on full display in their two reality television shows, “The Johnnyswim Show” and “In the Kitchen with Abner + Amanda.” Amanda's mother was the legendary Disco Queen Donna Summer; meanwhile, Abner's family experienced the intense political turmoil of 20th century Cuba, emigrating to the United States in the Mariel Boatlift in 1980. In this exclusive interview, they discuss everything from family history, to touring life, to activism and faith. Plus, we include their musical performance from a No Small Endeavor show at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. Show Notes: Similar episodes Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Why The New Respects Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho Resources mentioned this episode Johnnyswim’s Website “Ring the Bells” live performance at the Ryman PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Bonus · Tue, August 22, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Oliver Burkeman
This is our unabridged interview with Oliver Burkeman. In an age full of life hacks, self-help books, and productivity gurus, many of us only end up busier and more stressed than we were before. What if there’s a better way to live a full, fruitful life? "The world is bursting with wonder,” says Oliver Burkeman, “and yet it's the rare productivity guru who seems to have considered the possibility that the ultimate point of all our frenetic doing might be to experience more of that wonder." In this episode, he discusses his New York Times Bestselling book 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals , dispelling many contemporary ideas about productivity, and instead suggesting a wonder-fueled, counterintuitive method for flourishing in the world. Show Notes: Similar episodes: Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life: Rebecca DeYoung The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer The Power of Sabbath Rest: Judith Shulevitz Resources mentioned in this episode A Testament of Devotion by Thomas Raymond Kelly Catherine Andrews, " Why You're Going About Recovering from Perfectionism All Wrong " Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRl
Thu, August 17, 2023
Oliver Burkeman: Time Management for Mortals (Best of NSE)
In an age full of life hacks, self-help books, and productivity gurus, many of us only end up busier and more stressed than we were before. What if there’s a better way to live a full, fruitful life? "The world is bursting with wonder,” says Oliver Burkeman, “and yet it's the rare productivity guru who seems to have considered the possibility that the ultimate point of all our frenetic doing might be to experience more of that wonder." In this episode, he discusses his New York Times Bestselling book 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals , dispelling many contemporary ideas about productivity, and instead suggesting a wonder-fueled, counterintuitive method for flourishing in the world. Show Notes: Similar episodes: Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life: Rebecca DeYoung The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer The Power of Sabbath Rest: Judith Shulevitz Resources mentioned in this episode A Testament of Devotion by Thomas Raymond Kelly Catherine Andrews, " Why You're Going About Recovering from Perfectionism All Wrong " Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4Nz
Bonus · Tue, August 15, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Charlie Strobel
This is our unabridged interview with Charles Strobel. On August 6th, 2023, at the age of 80, Charles Strobel, affectionately known as Charlie, left us. Today, we revisit our 2020 interview with him. A true Nashville icon, he was once hailed as "Tennesseean of the Year." As a Catholic priest and the visionary behind Room In The Inn, a Nashville-based non-profit dedicated to offering hospitality, education, community, and employment to those experiencing homelessness, Charlie's impact was immeasurable. Join us in this special episode where he shares captivating anecdotes from his life, recounting his journey from living among the homeless to founding a shelter for them. He candidly discusses his battles with depression and the transformative power of therapy. Incredibly, he opens up about his journey to forgive the individual who took his mother's life. Charlie's existence epitomized the essence of a well-lived life, making him an extraordinary example to us all. As we mourn his passing, let's celebrate the legacy he leaves behind. Show Notes: Similar episodes Ending Violence Through Forgiveness: Azim Khamisa Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode Room In The Inn Charlie’s Obituary Transcription Link for Abridged Episode PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?
Thu, August 10, 2023
Charles Strobel: Remembering a Life Well Lived
On August 6th, 2023, at the age of 80, Charles Strobel, affectionately known as Charlie, left us. Today, we revisit our 2020 interview with him. A true Nashville icon, he was once hailed as "Tennesseean of the Year." As a Catholic priest and the visionary behind Room In The Inn, a Nashville-based non-profit dedicated to offering hospitality, education, community, and employment to those experiencing homelessness, Charlie's impact was immeasurable. Join us in this special episode where he shares captivating anecdotes from his life, recounting his journey from living among the homeless to founding a shelter for them. He candidly discusses his battles with depression and the transformative power of therapy. Incredibly, he opens up about his journey to forgive the individual who took his mother's life. Charlie's existence epitomized the essence of a well-lived life, making him an extraordinary example to us all. As we mourn his passing, let's celebrate the legacy he leaves behind. Show Notes: Similar episodes Ending Violence Through Forgiveness: Azim Khamisa Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode Room In The Inn Charlie’s Obituary Transcription Link PDF of Lee's Interview Notes Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow U
Bonus · Tue, August 08, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Elise Hu
This is our unabridged interview with Elise Hu. What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives? Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery. In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho Resources mentioned this episode Flawless by Elise Hu PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
Thu, August 03, 2023
Elise Hu: Obsessed With Beauty
What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives? Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery. In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho Resources mentioned this episode Flawless by Elise Hu PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/" rel="nofollow" t
Bonus · Tue, August 01, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Tish Harrison Warren
This is our unabridged interview with Tish Harrison Warren. Does pluralism result in discrimination? Must one choose a political side, either on the Left or the Right? And how can an ordinary life be an exceptional one? These are all questions involving dichotomies that are commonly presented to us in our culture. But Tish Harrison Warren, an ordained Anglican priest and columnist for the New York Times , sees such dichotomies as false, and has spent her own life’s work breaking them down in whatever ways she can. In this episode, Tish discusses her experience as a campus minister in the midst of controversy at Vanderbilt University, what it’s like holding convictions while under fire from both sides of the political spectrum, and her award-winning book Liturgy of the Ordinary . Show Notes: Similar episodes Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French Dorothy Day: Traditional, Radical, Christian “What Could Possibly Produce Someone with a Soul That Shallow?”: Stanley Hauerwas Resources mentioned this episode Liturgy of the Ordinary by Tish Harrison Warren Tish’s website Tish’s New York Times column PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Z
Wed, July 26, 2023
Tish Harrison Warren: Beyond Left and Right
Does pluralism result in discrimination? Must one choose a political side, either on the Left or the Right? And how can an ordinary life be an exceptional one? These are all questions involving dichotomies that are commonly presented to us in our culture. But Tish Harrison Warren, an ordained Anglican priest and columnist for the New York Times , sees such dichotomies as false, and has spent her own life’s work breaking them down in whatever ways she can. In this episode, Tish discusses her experience as a campus minister in the midst of controversy at Vanderbilt University, what it’s like holding convictions while under fire from both sides of the political spectrum, and her award-winning book Liturgy of the Ordinary . Show Notes: Similar episodes Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French Dorothy Day: Traditional, Radical, Christian “What Could Possibly Produce Someone with a Soul That Shallow?”: Stanley Hauerwas Resources mentioned this episode Liturgy of the Ordinary by Tish Harrison Warren Tish’s website Tish’s New York Times column PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher |
Bonus · Tue, July 25, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Angela Duckworth
This is our unabridged interview with Angela Duckworth. What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common? Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.” Surprisingly, it turns out talent is not the answer. Neither is genius. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.” In this episode, she explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life. Show Notes: Similar episodes Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan Resources mentioned this episode Grit by Angela Duckworth Character Lab PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/tokensshow" rel="nofollow" target
Thu, July 20, 2023
Angela Duckworth: Is Grit the Secret to Success?
What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common? Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.” Surprisingly, it turns out talent is not the answer. Neither is genius. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.” In this episode, she explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life. Show Notes: Similar episodes Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan Resources mentioned this episode Grit by Angela Duckworth Character Lab PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a h
Bonus · Mon, July 17, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part II)
This is Part II of our unabridged interview with Parker Palmer. “Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.” Now 84 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive. In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived at attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through two major bouts of depression which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things. Show Notes: Similar episodes Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Author of The Shack: William Paul Young Resources mentioned this episode Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/tokensshow
Bonus · Sat, July 15, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part I)
This is Part I of our unabridged interview with Parker Palmer. “Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.” Now 84 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive. In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived at attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through two major bouts of depression which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things. Show Notes: Similar episodes Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Author of The Shack: William Paul Young Resources mentioned this episode Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/tokensshow"
Thu, July 13, 2023
Parker Palmer: Courage, Vocation, and Paradox
“Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.” Now 84 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive. In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived at attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through two major bouts of depression which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things. Show Notes: Similar episodes Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen Author of The Shack: William Paul Young Resources mentioned this episode Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https://www.instagr
Bonus · Tue, July 11, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Judith Moskowitz
This is our unabridged interview with Judith Moskowitz. Stress, they say, is a silent killer. It sometimes feels as if our culture, all the way down to its very economic and social structures, is oriented toward increasing stress levels. Then add the challenges of various common life events–death of a loved one, losing a job, going through divorce – and sooner or later, overwhelming stress seems to come for us all. But might there be a way for us to flourish when stress hits us? Social psychologist Judith Moskowitz has dedicated her life’s work to answering this question. In this episode, she shares her findings after years of studying those who are dealing with acute stress, and describes why finding small ways to increase “positive emotion” can be a crucial tool for navigating one’s stress. Show Notes: Similar episodes Self-Compassion: Kristin Neff Gretchen Rubin: The Happiness Project Resources mentioned this episode It’s All Good Here Happify Self Compassion by Kristin Neff PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/
Thu, July 06, 2023
Judith Moskowitz: How to Flourish Amidst Stress
Stress, they say, is a silent killer. It sometimes feels as if our culture, all the way down to its very economic and social structures, is oriented toward increasing stress levels. Then add the challenges of various common life events–death of a loved one, losing a job, going through divorce – and sooner or later, overwhelming stress seems to come for us all. But might there be a way for us to flourish when stress hits us? Social psychologist Judith Moskowitz has dedicated her life’s work to answering this question. In this episode, she shares her findings after years of studying those who are dealing with acute stress, and describes why finding small ways to increase “positive emotion” can be a crucial tool for navigating one’s stress. Show Notes: Similar episodes Self-Compassion: Kristin Neff Gretchen Rubin: The Happiness Project Resources mentioned this episode It’s All Good Here Happify Self Compassion by Kristin Neff PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | <a href="https://www.f
Bonus · Sat, July 01, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Gretchen Rubin
This is our unabridged interview with Gretchen Rubin. What does it take to be happy? Our show is often over-academic in its approach to such questions. But what if there was a way to discover answers that work without bothering too much about definitions, drawn-out studies, and the search for a one-size-fits-all objectivity? In other words, what if the path to happiness includes some personal experimentation, fueled by good old fashioned trial and error? In this episode, Gretchen Rubin describes what she called “The Happiness Project,” a year-long process of trying various highly practical methods of increasing her happiness: joining book clubs, giving warm hellos and goodbyes, learning one’s own sleep preferences, reducing clutter, and trying every flavor of ice cream. “Spoiler alert,” she says. “It did make me happier.” Show Notes: Similar episodes What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan Resources mentioned this episode Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl Neglected Sense Quiz The Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin Life in Five Senses by Gretchen Rubin PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us:
Thu, June 29, 2023
Gretchen Rubin: The Happiness Project
What does it take to be happy? Our show is often over-academic in its approach to such questions. But what if there was a way to discover answers that work without bothering too much about definitions, drawn-out studies, and the search for a one-size-fits-all objectivity? In other words, what if the path to happiness includes some personal experimentation, fueled by good old fashioned trial and error? In this episode, Gretchen Rubin describes what she called “The Happiness Project,” a year-long process of trying various highly practical methods of increasing her happiness: joining book clubs, giving warm hellos and goodbyes, learning one’s own sleep preferences, reducing clutter, and trying every flavor of ice cream. “Spoiler alert,” she says. “It did make me happier.” Show Notes: Similar episodes What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan Resources mentioned this episode Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl Neglected Sense Quiz The Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin Life in Five Senses by Gretchen Rubin PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/NoSmallEndeavor" rel="nofoll
Bonus · Sat, June 24, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Rainn Wilson
This is our unabridged interview with Rainn Wilson. Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica… and spirituality? Rainn Wilson is known for playing beloved misfit, paper salesman, and beet farmer Dwight Schrute on the hit TV show The Office. But in Hollywood, he’s known for being a bit of a misfit in another way… he frequently talks about religion in public. Recently, he wrote a book called 'Soul Boom' in which he calls for a spiritual revolution. “We've thrown the spiritual baby out with the religious bathwater,” he says, “but spiritual ideas helped transform my life and made my life better, and the stakes have never been higher.” In this episode, he discusses his upbringing in the Bahá'í faith, how his career as an actor and comedian in Hollywood took a dire toll on his mental health, and how a return to spirituality gave him the tools to begin living a happy, flourishing life. Show Notes: Similar episodes Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen The Road to Character: David Brooks Resources mentioned this episode Soul Boom by Rainn Wilson Laughing Matters Documentary PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link for Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href=
Thu, June 22, 2023
Rainn Wilson: Dwight Schrute Talks About Religion
Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica… and spirituality? Rainn Wilson is known for playing beloved misfit, paper salesman, and beet farmer Dwight Schrute on the hit TV show The Office. But in Hollywood, he’s known for being a bit of a misfit in another way… he frequently talks about religion in public. Recently, he wrote a book called 'Soul Boom' in which he calls for a spiritual revolution. “We've thrown the spiritual baby out with the religious bathwater,” he says, “but spiritual ideas helped transform my life and made my life better, and the stakes have never been higher.” In this episode, he discusses his upbringing in the Bahá'í faith, how his career as an actor and comedian in Hollywood took a dire toll on his mental health, and how a return to spirituality gave him the tools to begin living a happy, flourishing life. Show Notes: Similar episodes Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen The Road to Character: David Brooks Resources mentioned this episode Soul Boom by Rainn Wilson Laughing Matters Documentary PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter
Bonus · Sat, June 17, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Judith Shulevitz
This is our unabridged interview with Judith Shulevitz Why would anybody want to practice Sabbath? Over a decade ago, Judith Shulevitz wrote a book called 'The Sabbath World: Glimpses of a Different Order of Time.' Before most of us had smartphones and remote jobs, she was calling attention to the troubling trajectory of an increasingly productivity-focused western culture. In a few years, she argued, we would simply be working all the time. Her prediction, it seems, has come true. The ramping up of 24/7 industry, news, and entertainment has created a baseline busyness unlike any in human history. But what if it’s doing more harm than good? What if, to live a good life, we need to rest, even if it comes at a cost? In this episode, Judith discusses how we got here, and why the ancient practice of Sabbath might help us re-establish a healthy relationship to time and to each other. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke Man Shall Not Live by Profit Alone: Jay Jakub Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman Resources mentioned this episode The Sabbath World by Judith Shulevitz The Rainbow by D.H. Lawrence PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link For Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyY
Thu, June 15, 2023
The Power of Sabbath Rest: Judith Shulevitz
Why would anybody want to practice Sabbath? Over a decade ago, Judith Shulevitz wrote a book called 'The Sabbath World: Glimpses of a Different Order of Time.' Before most of us had smartphones and remote jobs, she was calling attention to the troubling trajectory of an increasingly productivity-focused western culture. In a few years, she argued, we would simply be working all the time. Her prediction, it seems, has come true. The ramping up of 24/7 industry, news, and entertainment has created a baseline busyness unlike any in human history. But what if it’s doing more harm than good? What if, to live a good life, we need to rest, even if it comes at a cost? In this episode, Judith discusses how we got here, and why the ancient practice of Sabbath might help us re-establish a healthy relationship to time and to each other. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke Man Shall Not Live by Profit Alone: Jay Jakub Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman Resources mentioned this episode The Sabbath World by Judith Shulevitz The Rainbow by D.H. Lawrence PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwLTRlZGQtOWM4MC1hYmI1MDEyOTliYzIvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M=" rel="nofollow
Bonus · Sat, June 10, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Azim Khamisa
This is our unabridged interview with Azim Khamisa How do you forgive the man who killed your son? In 1995, Azim Khamisa’s only son Tariq was shot and killed while delivering a pizza. The killer was a 14-year-old gang member named Tony Hicks, and due to a recent change of law in the state of California, Tony was tried as an adult and sentenced to 25 years in prison. But instead of responding with a call for outrage or revenge, Azim did the unthinkable: he forgave his son’s killer, fought for his release, then gave him a job. “My interpretation of this tragedy was that there are victims at both ends of the gun,” he says. In this episode, he tells the full story of how he uses his experience to help end youth violence, even recruiting his son’s killer to join in the work. It is one of unimaginable grief, staunch faith, and unwavering compassion. Show Notes: Similar Episodes Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode TKF.org AzimKhamisa.com Email Azim: azim@azimkhamisa.com PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link For Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nosmallendeavor/" rel="nofollow" target="_
Thu, June 08, 2023
Ending Violence Through Forgiveness: Azim Khamisa
How do you forgive the man who killed your son? In 1995, Azim Khamisa’s only son Tariq was shot and killed while delivering a pizza. The killer was a 14-year-old gang member named Tony Hicks, and due to a recent change of law in the state of California, Tony was tried as an adult and sentenced to 25 years in prison. But instead of responding with a call for outrage or revenge, Azim did the unthinkable: he forgave his son’s killer, fought for his release, then gave him a job. “My interpretation of this tragedy was that there are victims at both ends of the gun,” he says. In this episode, he tells the full story of how he uses his experience to help end youth violence, even recruiting his son’s killer to join in the work. It is one of unimaginable grief, staunch faith, and unwavering compassion. Show Notes: Similar Episodes Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence Resources mentioned this episode TKF.org AzimKhamisa.com Email Azim: azim@azimkhamisa.com PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/NoSmallEndeavor" rel="nofol
Bonus · Sat, June 03, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Martin Sheen
This is our unabridged interview with Martin Sheen. In this episode, Lee sits down with the former President of the United States… At least, that’s how many listeners may know Martin Sheen, an award-winning actor known for his roles in Apocalypse Now and The Departed , and perhaps most famously for playing President Jed Bartlet in the hit TV series The West Wing . But offscreen, Martin is perhaps best described as a committed Catholic with a beautiful conversion story, and an ardent peace activist who has been arrested over 60 times. In this episode, he tells his whole story, full of humor and grace, all the way from his childhood in Ohio to his acting career, his coming to faith, and much more. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Architect of The American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Resources mentioned this episode The West Wing Cathedral Scene PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link For Abridged Episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/tokensshow" rel="nofollow" target="_blan
Thu, June 01, 2023
Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
In this episode, Lee sits down with the former President of the United States… At least, that’s how many listeners may know Martin Sheen, an award-winning actor known for his roles in Apocalypse Now and The Departed , and perhaps most famously for playing President Jed Bartlet in the hit TV series The West Wing . But offscreen, Martin is perhaps best described as a committed Catholic with a beautiful conversion story, and an ardent peace activist who has been arrested over 60 times. In this episode, he tells his whole story, full of humor and grace, all the way from his childhood in Ohio to his acting career, his coming to faith, and much more. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Architect of The American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Resources mentioned this episode The West Wing Cathedral Scene PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/"
Bonus · Sat, May 27, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Kristin Du Mez and David French
This is the unabridged Interview of Lee's conversation with Kristin Du Mez and David French. What happens when one of the country’s most outspoken critics of white male Christian political conservatism sits down with… well, a white male Christian political conservative? The answer: a really great conversation about politics, culture, and the desperate need for hospitality in the digital age. “With the decline of traditional media, everything's a competition for clicks,” says Kristin Du Mez, author of New York Times bestseller Jesus and John Wayne. She’s joined by David French, senior editor for the Dispatch and contributing writer to The Atlantic, to discuss their roles as public cultural commentators, how they choose their battles, how they deal with criticism, and the hard work of critiquing one’s own tribe in the age of political tribalism. Show Notes: Similar episodes Jesus and John Wayne: Kristin Du Mez Conservatism Without Trumpism: David French Is Conservative Christianity Anti-Intellectual?: Molly Worthen Resources mentioned this episode Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Du Mez Tim Alberta's Atlantic article - 'How Politics Poisoned The Evangelical Church' PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription of abridged episode Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvMGZjMWUzODAtYjRlMC00YTU5LWI4ZmMtYWJiNTAwMjIwZjM3LzU0MmFjNWQ2LWY1OTgtNGM0NC1iZWZjLWFiYjUwMTI4NzU0Ni84NjAyYTQ4Zi04OGIwLTR
Thu, May 25, 2023
Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French (Best Of NSE)
What happens when one of the country’s most outspoken critics of white male Christian political conservatism sits down with… well, a white male Christian political conservative? The answer: a really great conversation about politics, culture, and the desperate need for hospitality in the digital age. “With the decline of traditional media, everything's a competition for clicks,” says Kristin Du Mez, author of New York Times bestseller Jesus and John Wayne. She’s joined by David French, senior editor for the Dispatch and contributing writer to The Atlantic, to discuss their roles as public cultural commentators, how they choose their battles, how they deal with criticism, and the hard work of critiquing one’s own tribe in the age of political tribalism. Show Notes: Similar episodes Jesus and John Wayne: Kristin Du Mez Conservatism Without Trumpism: David French Is Conservative Christianity Anti-Intellectual?: Molly Worthen Resources mentioned this episode Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Du Mez Tim Alberta's Atlantic article - 'How Politics Poisoned The Evangelical Church' PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.
Bonus · Sat, May 20, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Greg Boyle
This is the unabridged interview with Greg Boyle. How do you reteach love to a community that society has deemed unloveable? In the 80s and 90s, the city of Los Angeles was ravaged by what is now known as the "decade of death," a period of unprecedented gang violence, peaking at 1,000 killings in 1992 alone. It was in the midst of this unrest, fear, and finger-pointing that Father Greg Boyle became pastor of the poorest Catholic parish in the city, in order to live and work among gang members. This eventually led him to start Homeboy Industries, which is now the largest gang-member rehabilitation and re-entry program in the world. In this episode, he tells some breathtaking stories, offering wisdom from a life lived in community with those who society neglects: “You don't go to the margins to make a difference. You go so the folks at the margins make you different.” Show Notes: Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson The Facts of Life: Pádraig Ó Tuama Similar episodes Resources mentioned this episode Homeboy Industries website Tattoos on the Heart by Greg Boyle Barking to the Choir by Greg Boyle PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us:
Thu, May 18, 2023
Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence (Best of NSE)
How do you reteach love to a community that society has deemed unloveable? In the 80s and 90s, the city of Los Angeles was ravaged by what is now known as the "decade of death," a period of unprecedented gang violence, peaking at 1,000 killings in 1992 alone. It was in the midst of this unrest, fear, and finger-pointing that Father Greg Boyle became pastor of the poorest Catholic parish in the city, in order to live and work among gang members. This eventually led him to start Homeboy Industries, which is now the largest gang-member rehabilitation and re-entry program in the world. In this episode, he tells some breathtaking stories, offering wisdom from a life lived in community with those who society neglects: “You don't go to the margins to make a difference. You go so the folks at the margins make you different.” Show Notes: Similar episodes Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson The Facts of Life: Pádraig Ó Tuama Resources mentioned this episode Homeboy Industries website Tattoos on the Heart by Greg Boyle Barking to the Choir by Greg Boyle PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCyab0&list=PL2Rk2D2fHz5lm
Sat, May 13, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Ben Cohen of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream
This is our unabridged interview with Ben Cohen of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream Show Notes: Similar episodes Peace, Justice, Ice Cream: Ben Cohen Man Shall Not Live by Profit Alone: Jay Jakub The Business of War: Justin Barringer Resources mentioned this episode Above the Law by Ben Cohen PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Member: Virtual Only | Standard | <a href="https://orders.nosmallendeavor.com/products/premium-package
Thu, May 11, 2023
Ben and Jerry's and a Better Capitalism: Ben Cohen and Jay Jakub
Is business just for making money? Famed economist Milton Friedman once argued in favor of such a view, and his economic theory has been the teaching basis for the last 50 years of American capitalism. But Ben Cohen, co-founder of world-famous Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream, thinks differently. In this episode, he discusses how he and Jerry found groundbreaking ways to go against the grain of the business world, giving away unprecedented amounts of profit, incorporating justice work into their company’s workflow, and speaking out in public against corruption. Also, economist Jay Jakub explains why profit-centered Capitalism is destined to fail, and what it might look like for a business to take a more holistic view of capital. - Show Notes: Similar episodes Peace, Justice, Ice Cream: Ben Cohen Man Shall Not Live by Profit Alone: Jay Jakub The Business of War: Justin Barringer Resources mentioned this episode Above the Law by Ben Cohen PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/toke
Bonus · Sat, May 06, 2023
Unabridged Interview: Anna Lembke
Our culture is brimming with wealth, upward social mobility, and endless access to massive hits of dopamine-fueled pleasure. So why are we still so unhappy? Access to pleasure is greater than ever in industrialized nations, and yet those same nations are seeing frightening rises in depression, anxiety, and “deaths of despair". In this episode, Anna Lembke, author of New York Times bestseller 'Dopamine Nation,' discusses why a life of endless, fast-paced pleasure seeking always comes at a cost, and what might be done in the midst of such an epidemic. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer Resources mentioned this episode Dopamine Nation by Anna Lembke Lee's Interview Notes Anna Lembke Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Member: <a href="https://orders.nosmallendeavor.com/products/virtual-package-membership/" rel="nofol
Thu, May 04, 2023
The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke and John Mark Comer (Best of NSE)
Our culture is brimming with wealth, upward social mobility, and endless access to massive hits of dopamine-fueled pleasure. So why are we still so unhappy? Access to pleasure is greater than ever in industrialized nations, and yet those same nations are seeing frightening rises in depression, anxiety, and “deaths of despair". In this episode, Anna Lembke, author of New York Times bestseller 'Dopamine Nation,' and John Mark Comer, author of New York Times bestseller 'The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry,' discuss why a life of endless, fast-paced pleasure seeking always comes at a cost, and what might be done in the midst of such an epidemic. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer Resources mentioned this episode Dopamine Nation by Anna Lembke The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Lee's Interview Notes Anna Lembke John Mark Comer Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/NoSmallEndeavor" rel="nofollo
Bonus · Sat, April 29, 2023
Unabridged Interview: David Hemenway
This is the unabridged interview with David Hemenway. After consistently eclipsing all other countries in the number of mass shootings per year, why is America still so obsessed with guns? And in the face of such a polarizing issue, what can be done to stop the killing? “A lot of people think we have a violence problem, but it doesn't seem to be the case; but where we are different is in terms of guns,” says Dr. David Hemenway of Harvard University’s Injury Control Research Center. He makes the case for a public health approach which treats gun violence as an epidemic to be mitigated through practical long-term solutions. Show Notes: Similar episodes Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Forgiving my Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Guns, Economics, Public Health: David Hemenway God and Guns: Chris Hays and Carly Crouch Resources mentioned this episode Private Guns, Public Health by David Hemenway Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/" rel="
Thu, April 27, 2023
America’s Gun Epidemic: David Hemenway, Chris Hays, Carly Crouch, and Diane Latiker
After consistently eclipsing all other countries in the number of mass shootings per year, why is America still so obsessed with guns? And in the face of such a polarizing issue, what can be done to stop the killing? “A lot of people think we have a violence problem, but it doesn't seem to be the case; but where we are different is in terms of guns,” says Dr. David Hemenway of Harvard University’s Injury Control Research Center. He makes the case for a public health approach which treats gun violence as an epidemic to be mitigated through practical long-term solutions. In addition, Professors Chris Hays and Carly Crouch of Fuller Theological Seminary discuss their book 'God and Guns', examining the presumed correlation between American Christianity and support of gun ownership. To close, Diane Latiker shares what peacemaking might look like on the ground in the face of such bleak realities. Show Notes: Similar episodes Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear Forgiving my Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher Guns, Economics, Public Health: David Hemenway God and Guns: Chris Hays and Carly Crouch Resources mentioned this episode Private Guns, Public Health by David Hemenway God and Guns by Chris Hays and Carly Crouch Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCyab0&list=PL2Rk2D2fHz5lmjxWNl_Hq_e
Thu, April 20, 2023
Healing The Earth: Debra Rienstra
What on God’s green earth does climate change have to do with living a good life? To answer such a question, says author and professor Debra Rienstra, we must first ask a more basic one: what is the good life? “We have assumed that it is affluence and upward mobility,” she says, “but that good life is not sustainable.” If a good life is one of purpose and healing, then it is precisely the Western ideal of success that is eating away our ability to live good lives. In this episode, we discuss her book Refugia Faith, in which she makes the argument that “the created world is not just our grocery store and sewer,” and that to live a good life, we must care for the planet on which the good life takes place. Similar episodes The Most Polarized Issue in the United States: Katharine Hayhoe The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon: Bill McKibben Hope in the Age of Climate Change: Chris Doran - The Collapse of the Biosphere: Peter Harris Resources mentioned in this episode Refugia Faith by Debra Rienstra Eaarth by Bill McKibben Great Tide Rising by Kathleen Dean Moore IPCC Reports on Climate Change - A Rocha International PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | <a href="https://www.stitc
Bonus · Sat, April 15, 2023
Unabridged Interview: John Dear
The unabridged interview version of Lee's interview with John Dear How do you live a good life in a world of 30 wars, 13,000 nuclear weapons, 4 billion people in poverty, racism, gun violence, child hunger, and catastrophic climate change? This is the question posed by Catholic priest and activist John Dear. For years, Father Dear has taken part in peace movements alongside folks like Coretta King, Thich Nhat Hanh, and Desmond tutu. In this episode, he has some unbelievable stories that answer his question in a provocative way: “To do the good means to stop the killing. You cannot be a Christian and support war, or killing, or nuclear weapons. Jesus was totally non-violent; if you want to be a Christian, you have to be totally non-violent too.” Show Notes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson The Business of War: Justin Barringer German Catholics and Hitler’s Wars by Gordon Zahn Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl The Nonviolent Life by John Dear The Beatitudes Center John Dear’s website Similar episodes Resources mentioned this episode PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCyab0&list=PL2Rk2D2fHz5lmjxWNl_Hq
Thu, April 13, 2023
Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear
How do you live a good life in a world of 30 wars, 13,000 nuclear weapons, 4 billion people in poverty, racism, gun violence, child hunger, and catastrophic climate change? This is the question posed by Catholic priest and activist John Dear. For years, Father Dear has taken part in peace movements alongside folks like Coretta King, Thich Nhat Hanh, and Desmond tutu. In this episode, he has some unbelievable stories that answer his question in a provocative way: “To do the good means to stop the killing. You cannot be a Christian and support war, or killing, or nuclear weapons. Jesus was totally non-violent; if you want to be a Christian, you have to be totally non-violent too.” Show Notes: The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson The Business of War: Justin Barringer German Catholics and Hitler’s Wars by Gordon Zahn Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl The Nonviolent Life by John Dear The Beatitudes Center John Dear’s website Similar episodes Resources mentioned this episode PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us:
Tue, April 11, 2023
Rebroadcast - Doing Justice at The People’s Plaza: Justin Jones
We wanted to rebroadcast our interview with Justin Jones. Recently Justin was one of two Black lawmakers in the Tennessee House who were expelled for breaking decorum. You can watch the video of the debate and vote to expel them here. Since Justin is now the national face of a movement to end gun violence and racial discrimination we thought our interview might help provide some context to the man in the headlines. This is a rebroadcast from before the name change to No Small Endeavor when the show was called Tokens. “Justice is what love looks like in public.” In this episode, Justin Jones discusses how his work for justice, particularly during a 62-day non-violent protest outside the Tennessee State Capitol, is itself an act of faith, steeped in self-denying love. Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Member: Virtual Only | Standard | <a href="https://orders.nosmallendeavor.com/products/premium-package-membership/" rel="nofollow" tar
Thu, April 06, 2023
The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson (Best of NSE)
What does one’s past have to do with their anger and anxiety in the present? What do our bodies remember that our minds don’t? And what do our brains want more than chocolate, sex, or a sports car? Psychiatrist Curt Thompson discusses these questions from the perspective of both brain science and theology. A psychiatrist in private practice, Dr. Thompson has expertise in interpersonal neurobiology, and contends that a key to living a good life comes quite simply to this: “being known.” Lee and Curt discuss two of Curt’s books, “The Anatomy of the Soul” and “The Soul of Desire,” with conversation on trauma and anxiety, connection and community, and why people need each other to be fully themselves. Show Notes: Similar episodes The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer What Hath Christianity to do with Psychology? Mark McMinn The Soul of Shame: Curt Thompson Resources mentioned this episode The Anatomy of the Soul by Curt Thompson The Soul of Desire by Curt Thompson Being Known Podcast PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes (coming soon) Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLzGlCyab0&list=PL2
Thu, March 30, 2023
The Good life - Lessons From The World's Longest Scientific Study Of Happiness: Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz
For all our modern so-called progress, global happiness levels have been consistently going down, especially in the richest and most developed countries. So what does it really take to be happy? Since 1938, Harvard scientists have been closely studying the lives of over 700 individuals to answer that very question. In this episode, two of those scientists - Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz - discuss the surprising results of what is known as the “World’s Longest Study of Happiness,” and why they are consistently finding that meaningful relationships are the key to living a long, happy, flourishing life. Show Notes: Similar episodes Interview with Kristin Du Mez Resources mentioned this episode Robert Waldinger’s TED Talk WISER tool for relationships: Watch, Interpret, Select, Engage, and Reflect Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leeccamp/" rel="nofollow" target=
Thu, March 23, 2023
How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church: Katelyn Beaty
Christian culture in our day is full of superstars: authors, athletes, media personas, and even pastors with millions of followers and fans. Their success, and the devotion they receive, often rivals that of their secular counterparts. But what if such fame actually does more harm than good? Today, Katleyn Beaty explores this question at length, discussing how Christianity became an arena for celebrity, and why a celebrity-based culture makes little room for the traditional Christian virtues of humility, poverty, and accountability. Similar episodes Interview with Kristin Du Mez Resources mentioned this episode Middlemarch by George Eliot PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Become a Member: <a href="https://orders.nosmallendeavor.com/products/virtual
Thu, March 16, 2023
Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman
We live in an age full of lifehacks, self-help books, and productivity gurus. But for all of the tips and tricks we adopt in order to squeeze every ounce of production out of our days, many of us only end up busier and more stressed than we were before. What if there’s a better way to live a full, fruitful life? "The world is bursting with wonder,” says Oliver Burkeman, “and yet it's the rare productivity guru who seems to have considered the possibility that the ultimate point of all our frenetic doing might be to experience more of that wonder." In this episode, he discusses his New York Times Bestselling book 4000 Weeks: Time Management for Mortals , dispelling many contemporary ideas about productivity, and instead suggesting a wonder-fueled, counterintuitive method for flourishing in the world. Similar episodes: Interview with Rebecca DeYoung Resources mentioned in this episode: A Testament of Devotion by Thomas Raymond Kelly Catherine Andrews, " Why You're Going About Recovering from Perfectionism All Wrong " Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl Transcription Link Lee's Interview Notes Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a
Sat, March 11, 2023
Unabridged Interview: James Lawson
***This is the special release of the unabridged interview with American Civil Rights hero Reverend James Lawson. You can find the normal shorter produced version in our podcast feed. The American Civil Rights Movement, like Gandhi's Indian Independence Movement, was famously set apart by its employment of non-violent resistance methods. But have you ever wondered how such a movement was possible on so large a scale? In this episode, we are honored to have the man who Martin Luther King Jr. called friend, mentor, and the very conscience and architect of the Civil Rights movement: Reverend James Lawson. He discusses America’s past and present, and what it took to organize a whole population across the country to fight back without throwing a punch. “We started the public desegregation of the nation,” he says, “and we did it without hating anybody.” Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode Fellowship Of Reconciliation (F.O.R.) Rev. James Lawson’s Church Holman United Methodist PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Ema
Thu, March 09, 2023
The Architect of The American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson
The American Civil Rights Movement, like Gandhi's Indian Independence Movement, was famously set apart by its employment of non-violent resistance methods. But have you ever wondered how such a movement was possible on so large a scale? In this episode, we are honored to have the man who Martin Luther King Jr. called friend, mentor, and the very conscience and architect of the Civil Rights movement: Reverend James Lawson. He discusses America’s past and present, and what it took to organize a whole population across the country to fight back without throwing a punch. “We started the public desegregation of the nation,” he says, “and we did it without hating anybody.” Show Notes: Resources mentioned this episode Fellowship Of Reconciliation (F.O.R.) Rev. James Lawson’s Church Holman United Methodist PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com <p
Thu, March 02, 2023
What It Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan
What does it mean to live a good life, and how do we start? On our show, we make it a habit of repeating our tagline: “Exploring what it means to live a good life.” But in this episode, we address the issue head-on like never before, with the help of Notre Dame Professor of Philosophy Meghan Sullivan. We discuss her book “The Good Life Method,” which gives helpful insight about the kinds of questions philosophers and theologians have been asking for millennia: What does it mean to pursue a life worth living? What sort of end ought we keep in mind in all our doing and living and being? And how might we get there? Show Notes: On Bullshit by Harry G Frankfurt William James’ essay “The Will To Believe” PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter Join our Email List: <a href="https:
Thu, February 23, 2023
Author Of The Shack: William Paul Young
Author of The Shack, William Paul Young, joins us on this episode of No Small Endeavor. At age 50, William Paul Young wrote the New York Times Best-selling novel “The Shack.” It went on to sell 25 million copies and was turned into a major motion picture. 11 years prior, Paul’s wife discovered he was having an extra-marital affair. With nothing left to hide, he began a journey toward healing and wholeness: dealing with his being abused as a child, dealing with the toxic “snow covered dung” theology of his inherited religious tradition; and his quest for control of his own image-management and the world around him. Subsequently, he wrote “The Shack” at age 50 for his 6 kids to express to them the nature of what he calls “Divine Love”. Paul shares how love, grace, and healing only happen in the present moment, and share some highly practical life experience that can transform one’s most intimate relationships. Show Notes: Resources mentioned in episode Paul’s book The Shack Bessel van der Kolk’s book The Body Keeps The Score PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes Full Transcript Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube Follow Lee: <a href="https:/
Thu, February 16, 2023
Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher
How do you forgive someone who committed unspeakable horror against someone you love? In 2015, 21-year-old white supremacist, Dylann Roof, was welcomed into a bible study at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina. Minutes later, he opened fire and murdered nine members of the church. At his trial, the family members of those killed got the chance to speak to Roof publicly, voicing their pain; and some, in the midst of such anguish, publicly forgave him. But Sharon Risher, whose mother was shot and killed by Roof that day, was not immediately ready to forgive her mother's killer; for her, it was a long, hard road to forgiveness. Today, we discuss Sharon’s book entitled "For Such a Time as This: Hope and Forgiveness After the Charleston Massacre," which explores her journey of grief, healing, and grace after her mother’s murder. Show Notes: Mentioned in this episode Sharon’s book “For Such a Time as This: Hope and Forgiveness After the Charleston Massacre” President Obama’s eulogy for the victims Sharon’s NYT article “I Wish the Jury Had Not Sentenced My Family’s Killer to Death” Lee's Interview Notes Transcription Link Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube Follow Us: Instagram | <a href="https://twitter.com/NoSmallEndeavor" rel="nofollo
Mon, January 16, 2023
Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray (Best Of NSE)
In honor of MLK day, we're once again airing our conversation with Martin Luther King's first lawyer Fred Gray. We hope this episode celebrates the progress made toward justice and reminds us of the work yet to be done. Dr. Gray tells stunning stories of his work as a civil rights lawyer standing before the supreme court on multiple occasions, and what it was like to stand beside MLK and Rosa Parks in the fight for racial equity - a fight, he is careful to note, that is still ongoing. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, December 15, 2022
The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson
What do our brains want more than chocolate, sex, or a sports car? What does your memory of long past events have to do with the apparently unrelated arguments and anxiety you are experiencing these days? Psychiatrist Curt Thompson discusses these questions from the perspective of both brain science and theology. A psychiatrist in private practice, Dr. Thompson has expertise in interpersonal neurobiology, and contends that a key to living a good life comes quite simply to this: “being known.” Lee and Curt discuss two of Curt’s books, “The Anatomy of the Soul” and “The Soul of Desire,” with conversation on trauma and anxiety, connection and community, and what your memory of long past events has to do with the apparently unrelated arguments you are having many years later. Books discussed in this episode: Anatomy of the Soul: Surprising Connections between Neuroscience and Spiritual Practices That Can Transform Your Life and Relationships The Soul of Desire: Discovering the Neuroscience of Longing, Beauty, and Community Want more from Curt Thompson in conversation with Lee? Check out our earlier podcast episode with Curt on Curt’s book The Soul of Shame: Retelling the Stories We Believe About Ourselves . Additional NSE episodes of related interest: The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer <a href="https://tokensshow.com/blog/s2e2-what-hath-christianity-to-do-with-psychology-an-interview-with-profe
Thu, December 08, 2022
Reality TV, The Cuban Revolution, and a Disco Queen Mother: JohnnySwim
The folk-pop duo Johnnyswim, comprised of married couple Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez, discuss their reality television shows, their public marriage, their radically different childhoods, and their opinions about Christianity in America. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, December 01, 2022
When Justice Never Comes How Can We Begin Again? A Look at America Through The Life of James Baldwin with Dr. Eddie Glaude
Why are there different narratives around race in America? Some Americans believe that we are a “shining city on a hill” a beacon of truth and justice for the world, but anyone with eyes can see that there are some major contradictions in that narrative. James Baldwin called this “The Lie” and we discuss it in great detail with Dr. Eddie Glaude and his book Begin Again: James Baldwin's America and its Urgent Lessons For Our Own. The book is a powerful reckoning with America’s ongoing failure to confront the lies it tells itself about race. So when justice never seems to come how can we begin again? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 17, 2022
Can Religion Make You Happier? The Surprising Scientific Findings of Ancient Religious Practice: David Desteno
Does religion make us happier? David Desteno discusses his book How God Works , in which he makes the argument, backed by research, that the wisdom of the world’s great religious traditions lines up with recent psychological and neuroscientific findings about what constitutes a good, flourishing life. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 10, 2022
Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks: Dr. Fred Gray
The civil rights movement was led by a host of brilliant and courageous men and women, among their ranks the lawyer Dr. Fred Gray. He was MLK's first attorney, he successfully argued before the Supreme Court multiple times, and he was a close friend of Rosa Parks. Today, he shares those stories, along with his thoughts on the ongoing fight for equity in the United States. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 03, 2022
Kristin Du Mez sits with David French
What happens when one of the country’s most outspoken critics of white male Christian political conservatism sits down with a well-known white male conservative Christian political pundit? Find out, as Kristin Du Mez and David French discuss politics, culture, and the desperate need for hospitality in the digital age. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Trailer · Tue, November 01, 2022
No Small Endeavor Trailer
Ethics professor and host Lee C. Camp explores what it means to live a good life by sitting down with some of the world's greatest thinkers, creatives, and everyone in between—from PRX, Tokens Media and Great Feeling Studios. For fans of On Being, The Daily Stoic, and Oprah's Super Soul. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Guests include: Malcolm Gladwell James Lawson Tara Brach Rainn Wilson Amy Grant David French Ayana Elizabeth Johnson David Brookes Greg Boyle Russell Moore www.nosmallendeavor.com Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 27, 2022
The New Name: Why Living a Good Life is “No Small Endeavor”
The inaugural episode of No Small Endeavor, in which Lee discusses the reasons behind the name change, the mission entailed by the new name, and the centrality of conversation, courage, and community. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 20, 2022
The End of the Tokens Show: Jason Eskridge, Michael Hicks, Odessa Settles
The final episode of Tokens Show (in a way). Jason Eskridge, Michael Hicks, and Odessa Settles discuss their experiences with tokenism, and Lee reveals why, given such realities, the Tokens Show has decided upon a new name. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 13, 2022
Why You Shouldn’t Punish—or Reward—Your Kids: Alfie Kohn
Are many parenting styles doing more harm than good? Alfie Kohn discusses the surprising psychology behind the widely practiced reward/punishment model of raising kids, and why we should “work with” our children instead of trying to control their behavior. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 06, 2022
Doing Justice at The People’s Plaza: Justin Jones
“Justice is what love looks like in public.” In this episode, Justin Jones discusses how his work for justice, particularly during a 62-day non-violent protest outside the Tennessee State Capitol, is itself an act of faith, steeped in self-denying love. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 29, 2022
Bourbon, Bluegrass and the Bible, with the Hillbilly Thomists
What do bourbon, bluegrass, and the Bible have in common? Just ask the Billboard charting Hillbilly Thomists, a group of Catholic Dominican Friars, clad in white tunics and rosaries—playing bluegrass music. Their name, Hillbilly Thomists, is indebted to the Catholic Southern Gothic writer Flannery O'Connor whose mixture of morbidity and grace show up in their songs. We assembled at the Soultrain Sound Studio in Nashville, TN to hear about their vocation, what life is like on the road as occasionally touring musicians, and their many songs including one entitled “Bourbon, Bluegrass and the Bible”. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 22, 2022
The Art of Conversation: Heather Holleman
“Good conversations create personal closeness,” says Heather Holleman. “When you have good conversations, it could intervene in the loneliness epidemic.” Today, she discusses the many tried-and-true methods for becoming better conversationalists – a skill that just might be a central key to human flourishing. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 15, 2022
The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon: Bill McKibben
“If we are to take heart from the really good things about American history, we have no choice but to reckon first with the dark sides of it,” says Bill McKibben, a prominent journalist, author, and activist. One of the most prominent of environmental activists and authors, McKibben also discusses racial justice, the economic impact of suburbanization, and the relation of the Christian church to social change in America. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 08, 2022
We’re Not as Good (Or Bad) as We Think We Are: Christian Miller
Are we as good as we think we are? Virtue theory suggests that things like compassion, honesty, and courage are the keys to living a good, happy life. But Christian Miller brings to light a troubling reality: though we all want to be virtuous, it turns out that it doesn’t take much to get us to forsake our values. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 01, 2022
The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke
In a culture brimming with wealth, upward social mobility, and endless access to pleasure, why are we only becoming more anxious, depressed, and unsatisfied? Dr. Anna Lembke makes a claim many of us don’t want to hear, though we know to be true: “Every pleasure has a cost, and that cost is pain. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, June 09, 2022
The Practice of Friendship
Is friendship really a key to being happy? We often make our quest for human flourishing a solitary one, focusing on making changes in our personal mindsets and habits. Yet, much ancient and modern wisdom suggests that we cannot do it alone. In this episode, Andy Gullahorn, Gabe Scott, and Antsy McClain share stories and songs – full of high fives and trailer parks – that showcase the importance of deep friendship and community. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, June 02, 2022
The Practice of Humor
Might we all be happier if we stopped taking ourselves too seriously? Singer-songwriters Andy Gullahorn and Antsy McClain describe how humor can make us comfortable enough to be vulnerable with each other. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 26, 2022
Past Hymns for the Present Moment: Phil Madeira, Leslie Jordan, Odessa Settles
Hymns are often sentimentalized in the American church, cast aside as merely retired songs with dated language, bearing no real appeal or relevance. But of course it may be that our old hymnals have some crucial things to say to us in our current cultural moment. This is the challenge I posed to Odessa Settles, Phil Madeira, and Leslie Jordan: find and perform some old hymns which might be both indicting and encouraging to the modern church, and to the world at large. Beautiful conversation and moving performances, taped at Nashville’s Sound Emporium. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
S5 E14 · Thu, May 19, 2022
The Social Consciousness of Bluegrass: Bryan Sutton and Greg Reish
Bluegrass as “progressive”? Might bluegrass, supposedly the province of hillbilly white folks, be a great deal more than mere nostalgic banjo-picking and fiddle-playing? Music historian and professor Greg Reish explores the social consciousness of bluegrass along with legendary guitarist Bryan Sutton. They discuss the roots of bluegrass in African-American blues, as well as its cultivation of community, and attention to the plight of the poor. Plus, Bryan gathered a band of bluegrass greats at the Sound Emporium for five live most outstanding performances: Becky Buller, Stephen Mougin, Wes Corbett, and Missy Raines. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Thu, May 12, 2022
Listen, Love, and Turn the Other Cheek: Joy Oladokun
How music gives voice to people on the margins; how lament and hope co-exist in songwriting; and wondering what one is really supposed to do with “turn the other cheek,” all with Joy Oladokun. Plus, she performs five of her songs live from Nashville’s Sound Emporium. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
S5 E12 · Thu, May 05, 2022
Why The New Respects Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere
The New Respects discuss racism, religion, and what it’s like to be musicians who don’t quite fit the music industry mold: a predominantly female, all-black, genre-bending family band. Taped at Nashville’s Sound Emporium, with live performances of five of their songs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Thu, April 28, 2022
Giving Away My Happiness: K.S. Rhoads
Instagram culture, internet extremism, the Seven Deadly Sins, the hard work of parenting, learning how to grieve, and much more. Plus, KS performs five beautiful songs live from Nashville’s famed Sound Emporium. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 21, 2022
Seven Ways to Ruin Your Life: Rebecca DeYoung
Are the “seven deadly sins” merely a medieval-era reflection upon divine finger-wagging? Rebecca DeYoung explains why the “seven deadly sins” is better understood as a diagnostic tool which may instead facilitate a joyful and flourishing life. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 14, 2022
Does Evolutionary Theory Destroy Morality?: Justin Barrett
Does evolutionary theory destroy morality? Barrett contends that evolutionary psychology might instead provide guidance toward practices of sociability, community, and love. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 07, 2022
Enneagram Wisdom and Living Well: Suzanne Stabile
A helpful conversation with Suzanne Stabile on the Enneagram: what it is, what it isn’t, and why it can be a helpful tool for the flourishing of the self and the community. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, March 31, 2022
How Ancient Wisdom Can Change Your Life: Edith Hall
Edith Hall offers timely commentary on the virtue ethics of Aristotle: and how contemporary society may be missing fundamental keys to living life well. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, March 24, 2022
A Jewish Take on Jesus: AJ Levine
What do Christians get wrong about Jesus? Prof. AJ Levine discusses common mis-readings of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus’s stance on societal and gender norms, and how “Christian Fragility” impedes one’s ability to listen and learn. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, March 17, 2022
Conservatism without Trumpism: David French
David French discusses the culture of animosity in which he finds himself as a political commentator; what it’s like to critique conservatism as a conservative; and why he thinks America’s classical liberalism may yet be salvageable. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, March 10, 2022
The Business of War: Justin Barringer
The commodification of almost everything is one fact of life in the late modern capitalist world in which we live in the west. But commodification even of war? Justin Bronson Barringer joins us to discuss the business of war and the US military industrial complex. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, March 03, 2022
Is Conservative Christianity Anti-Intellectual?: Molly Worthen
Is Conservative Christianity necessarily opposed to reason? Dr. Molly Worthen discusses the history of Protestant Evangelicalism, and how this tradition has often been “perhaps the most preoccupied with squaring reason with their understanding of faith.” A complex and fascinating tale. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, February 24, 2022
Women, Justice, and Preaching in the Deep South: Janet Wolf
“I did not go to divinity school to become a pastor. I went to figure out how people could read the Bible and not do justice.” Janet Wolf recounts her experiences doing justice and advocacy work in the face of misogyny, poverty, and racism as the first female Methodist pastor in Lawrence County, Tennessee. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, February 17, 2022
Against, and For, the Tribe: Russell Moore
“People are not so afraid of holding a wrong opinion, as they are of holding an opinion alone,” says public theologian Dr. Russell Moore, paraphrasing Soren Kierkegaard. In light of his recent book The Courage to Stand, we discussed the dangers of waging debate for the sake of hostility; the immense value found in cultivating the virtues of courage, prudence, and humility; and why he believes that “only the crucifiable self can find the courage to stand.” And these are not merely academic matters for Russell, having himself experienced trying times of intense public scrutiny from colleagues, friends, enemies, and Donald Trump. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, December 09, 2021
Black Mothers: Marty Dodson & Stephanie Knight
Marty Dodson is an acclaimed country singer-songwriter in Nashville. A number of years ago, he and his wife felt compelled to move from their home in Franklin, a wealthy and predominantly white suburb, to East Nashville, a historically black neighborhood which has been the site of much gentrification over the past few decades. When they moved in, they were instantly welcomed by Stephanie Knight, their new neighbor, and a long-time resident of East Nashville. Following the tragic murder of George Floyd, Marty and his wife were walking in their neighborhood when they stopped to talk to Stephanie. A long, tear-filled conversation culminated in Stephanie’s heartbreaking statement: “I’m scared for my boys… I just want them to come home.” It was this conversation that led Marty to start writing “Black Mothers,” a haunting song reminiscent of the Hebrew prophet’s plea for “justice to roll down like waters.” Today, their story, along with a performance of the song they wrote together. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, December 02, 2021
Man Shall Not Live by Profit Alone: Jay Jakub
“What should the right level of profit be for a corporation?” In this episode, Jay Jakub discusses why this question must be asked in order for a business to thrive, and how a more holistic approach to capitalism might be adopted to unlock a company’s full potential. And maybe help save the world. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Tue, November 23, 2021
Welcome Table: A Tokens Thanksgiving Special
A special episode reflecting on over a decade of Thanksgivings spent at Nashville’s historic Ryman auditorium, with some of our favorite performances, sketches, and memories which we’ve shared together. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 18, 2021
White Too Long: Robert Jones
Robert P. Jones discusses the ways his research has led to a shocking conclusion: “If you take your average white American, and you add Christian identity, they move up the racism index, not down.” And such a confession, he says, is a necessary starting point before there can be any reconciliation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 11, 2021
The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer
“Most people are too busy to live emotionally healthy and spiritually vibrant lives.” In this episode, John Mark Comer discusses the importance of taking seriously spiritual formation in a culture of noise and speed; why willpower cannot do what we want it to do; and practical ways we might find and live the good, the true, and the beautiful. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 04, 2021
Homeboys, Delight, Gladness: Greg Boyle
Father Greg Boyle, founder of Homeboy Industries, the world's largest gang-member rehabilitation program, in one of our most beautiful interviews to date. “You don't go to the margins to make a difference. You go to the margins so that the folks at the margins make you different." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 28, 2021
Diversity, Virtue, Healthcare: Dr. Andre Churchwell
What role might race play in today’s ever-increasing gaps of social and economic inequality? And what might we be able to do about it? In this episode, Dr. Andre Churchwell explains how a life of cultivated virtue and diversity might be necessary to equip us to address such issues of injustice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 21, 2021
Why Liberalism Failed: Patrick Deneen
What if the seemingly-opposite political forces of Left and Right are really two sides of the same philosophical coin? Patrick Deneen discusses the ways in which the modern West has taken for granted its long-held philosophy of Liberalism, and why this philosophy is starting to show signs of an inevitable failure. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 14, 2021
Peace, Justice, Ice Cream: Ben Cohen
“It has to be the joyful journey for justice,” says Ben Cohen, the world-famous “Ben” in Ben & Jerry’s. In this episode, we hear from Ben how starting an ice cream business has given him the means to do justice with hope and humor. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 07, 2021
Free Cyntoia: Cyntoia Brown Long
A special episode, taped in front of a live audience, in which Cyntoia Brown Long chronicles her experience leading to and within the Tennessee prison system, and the dramatic, at times hard-to-believe nature of the grace and providence which led to her coming-to-faith and ultimate release. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 30, 2021
The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith: David Wilkinson
The X-CLUB, and the invention of the supposed war between science and faith, with astro-physicist and theologian David Wilkinson of Durham University. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 23, 2021
Hope in the Age of Climate Change: Chris Doran
What does the resurrection of Jesus have to do with climate change? Chris Doran discusses why a rightly-seen eschatological hope should necessarily drive Christians towards climate care. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 16, 2021
Self-Compassion: Kristin Neff
Ever wonder about “everybody getting a trophy” and the cult of self-esteem? Kristin Neff discusses the potential dangers of self-esteem—like bullying and narcissism—and the preferred practice of self-compassion. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 09, 2021
Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice: Quincy Byrdsong
“Health inequities started with slavery,” says Dr. Quincy Byrdsong in this episode on healthcare inequities. We discuss at length the infamous Tuskegee Syphilis trials, and the persistent issues in healthcare and social justice. We close with a personal conversation about his experience as an African-American man, and how he has emotionally and professionally navigated doing such work. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 02, 2021
Guns, Economics, Public Health: David Hemenway
The US, says Harvard Prof. David Hemenway, does not have a “violence problem” in comparison to other high-income countries in terms of robbery, assault, or burglary. But we have much more homicide and gun-related problems: “A child in the United States is much more likely to be murdered with a firearm than children in these other countries: We are twenty-nine times higher.” From the perspective of public health, what practical helps might there be? Listener discretion is advised. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, August 26, 2021
Bad Faith—Race and the Rise of the Religious Right: Randall Balmer
Professor of Religion at Dartmouth College Randall Balmer tells of a meeting in Washington, DC that changed the course of his academic career, and set him on an unexpected investigation: the Religious Right’s origins is not to be located in the issue of abortion. Instead, he concludes, the movement began “to defend racial segregation.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, August 19, 2021
The Opposite of Faith is Certainty: Christian Wiman
Poet Christian Wiman discusses doubt and faith; the role of poetry “when the world is burning”; ways in which being raised in west Texas made him the poet and person he is; how “destitution and abundance are two facets of the one face of God”; along with four poem recitations. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, August 12, 2021
God and Guns: Chris Hays and Carly Crouch
Not so sure about Christians touting second amendment gun rights? A discussion with the editors of God and Guns: The Bible Against American Gun Culture , who challenge the too-easy pro-gun rhetoric of many American Christians. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, August 05, 2021
Good Trouble: Ruby Amanfu, Matt Maher, Leigh Nash
“Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble,” said Congressman John Lewis. Leigh Nash and Matt Maher met for a song co-write honoring Lewis’s wisdom, hoping to speak to issues of race in America. Knowing their white perspective was not sufficient for an honest song, some awkwardness and vulnerability led to a request of their third co-writer Ruby Amanfu. That gave rise to their moving song “Good Trouble.” Includes live performance. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, June 03, 2021
The Making of Biblical Womanhood: Beth Allison Barr
Conservative American Christianity insists we must not let the wider culture determine what we do, and yet we see that happening precisely in the patriarchy that characterizes much of American Christianity. So argues Dr. Barr, in her critique of the subordination of women in the church. Plus live satire from Tokens Show’s own Brother Preacher, aka Greg Lee. This and more, all playing off Dr. Barr’s book The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth . See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 27, 2021
Thou Shalt Not be a Jerk: Eugene Cho
Eugene Cho is a Korean-born immigrant to the United States and now activist and author. We discuss his moving and distressing childhood experiences at age six; his journey to Christianity; and how both those realities have given him insight and possibilities for service to the world, as well as put him at odds with both the right and the left in America. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 20, 2021
The Soul of Shame: Curt Thompson
Psychiatrist Curt Thompson joins Lee to discuss his book The Soul of Shame . They discuss the mechanism of shame, how it impedes joy, connection, creativity and human flourishing; and how vulnerability subverts shame. Don’t just listen to this one. Take notes, and try it… But it’s not for the faint of heart. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 13, 2021
Fear, Home and the Asian-American Experience: Eugene Cho and Karen Korematsu
In light of the recent rise of anti-Asian-American hostility and violence, we interview Dr. Karen Korematsu, daughter of famed civil-rights activist Fred Korematsu, the namesake of the infamous 1944 Supreme Court Case Korematsu v. United States . Mr. Korematsu, a Japanese-American and American citizen, refused to comply with President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s executive order which would have forced his re-location to an American “concentration camp.” In addition, we talk to Korean-born activist Eugene Cho, on his moving experiences as an American immigrant. Plus, live musical performances by Buddy Greene and the Most Outstanding Horeb Mountain Boys. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 06, 2021
The Gravity of Joy: Angela Williams Gorrell (with Miroslav Volf)
An interview with Angela Williams Gorrell, Professor of Practical Theology at Baylor University, and author of a new book entitled The Gravity of Joy: A Story of Being Lost and Found. Angela recounts her own experiences with the sudden, tragic, and nearly simultaneous losses of three family members; how America’s current crisis of despair can be traced and understood through suicide and addiction rates; and the surprising ways in which gateways to joy can be found in the midst of deep grief; plus, additional commentary from Angela’s former boss at Yale, Miroslav Volf, on the connection between joy and sorrow. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 29, 2021
Jesus and John Wayne: Kristin Du Mez
An interview with Kristin Du Mez, Professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University and author of a provocative new book entitled Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation . In light of the fact that 81% of white evangelicals supposedly voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 election, many have tried to make sense of how “family values voters” could have supported Trump. Du Mez, in contrast, claims that this support of Trump was not in contradiction to, but consistent with, the deeper values of American evangelical Christianity. Regardless of your politics, you will not find this an episode that leaves you without some emotion. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 22, 2021
“The most polarized issue in the United States”: Katharine Hayhoe
An interview with Katharine Hayhoe, one of the leading climate scientists in the United States, and author of a soon-to-be-released book entitled Saving Us: A Climate Scientist’s Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World. Katharine and Lee discuss the supposed dichotomy between evangelical Christianity and climate science; the truth about some common climate change myths; and how Katharine, as an evangelical Christian herself, receives hate mail and death threats on an almost daily basis, and yet sees Christians as the perfect people to care about stewarding their responsibility to look after creation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 15, 2021
The Collapse of the Biosphere: Peter Harris
An interview with Peter Harris, Anglican clergyman and founder of the highly esteemed Christian conservation non-profit A Rocha International. Peter and Lee discuss why the political polarization of the climate crisis in the United States is more an accident of history than a theological necessity; the ways in which fundamental Christian orthodoxy supports ecological conservation; and how, the preservation, or decimation, of much of the biosphere is dependent upon the choices of evangelical Christians. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 08, 2021
Doubt Becomes Wonder: Audrey Assad
A frequent guest on Tokens Show, Audrey Assad joins Lee to discuss her new memoir Doubt Becomes Wonder: Embracing the Loss of Everything You Thought You Knew . They discuss healing from childhood wounds, and the consequent navigation of doubt; and Audrey’s experience as a woman in the church. PLUS: two live studio performances. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, April 01, 2021
Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss: Drew Holcomb
Drew Holcomb, whom the Rolling Stone recently called “one of Americana’s Most Popular Stars,” talks with Lee about his surprising road through academia to becoming a singer-songwriter; the tragic loss of his younger brother; and what it’s like to have courage and hope as a songwriter, artist, husband, and father in the midst of the current polarized cultural moment. PLUS! Live in-the-studio-performances of two of his most moving songs: “You Never Leave My Heart” and “Dragons.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, March 18, 2021
Republicans, Roe v Wade, and the Pro-Life Failure: Bill Cavanaugh
Bill Cavanaugh, professor of Catholic studies at DePaul University, discusses with Lee his recent provocative article entitled "Electing Republicans has not Reversed Roe vs. Wade. It's Time to Change Our Strategy." in which Bill shares some shocking realities which are being little discussed and appear to be little known about the abortion debates in America. In addition, Lee and Bill discuss Bill’s book Torture and Eucharist on the Pinochet regime in Chile, along with a brief discussion of Bill’s book Being Consumed , in which Bill both critiques naïve notions of the “free market” while not advocating state socialism as the only other alternative. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, March 04, 2021
Addiction, Loss, Possibility: Megan Barry
An interview with Megan Barry, former mayor of Nashville. Lee and Megan discuss the tragic subject of addiction and how it led to the accidental overdose and death of her son Max; what it has been like to find hope and healing in both the midst and aftermath of such a tragedy; what there may be to learn, both personally and communally, about the various stigmas and statistics currently surrounding the issue; and the ways, both large and small, in which the current epidemic of addiction may be fought. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, February 25, 2021
Beyond Fake News: Justin McBrayer
An interview with Justin McBrayer, Professor of Philosophy at Fort Lewis College, Executive Director of the Society of Christian Philosophers, and the author of a new book entitled Beyond Fake News: Finding the Truth in a World of Misinformation . Lee and Justin discuss the current crisis of a world plagued with false information, made worse by new media and technology; some surprising ways in which we ourselves often contribute in oblivious fashion to such a crisis; and some practices which we may adopt to combat the spread, both within ourselves and within our larger communities, of fake news. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, February 11, 2021
Praying With Our Feet: Lindsey Glenn Krinks
An interview with justice-seeker Lindsey Glenn Krinks on her experience as an advocate for the incarcerated, the sick, and the homeless; what it has been like to be a woman interested in the male-dominated field of theology; stories she has lived as a co-founder of Open Table Nashville, a nonprofit which seeks to disrupt cycles of poverty; and her new book, Praying with Our Feet: Pursuing Justice and Healing on the Streets. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, January 28, 2021
Science, Faith, and Einstein: Alister McGrath
An interview with Alister McGrath, esteemed professor of Science and Religion at the University of Oxford, and one of the world’s leading Christian apologists. Lee and Alister discuss one of the great modern dichotomies of our day: the supposed mutually exclusive choice between science and faith; why the teachings and writings of Einstein played a significant role in undermining McGrath’s own former atheism; and why adhering to a more holistic, incorporative view of science, religion, and philosophy may lead us to a better understanding of ourselves and of the world. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Sun, January 03, 2021
The Death Penalty
A special episode chronicling the capital punishment case of Pervis Payne, an inmate for over three decades on Tennessee’s death row; a similar story from former death row inmate Ndume Olatushani; and commentary from author and activist Shane Claiborne about the Christian church’s complex relationship with capital punishment. Plus musical performances by Buddy Greene, Sonya Isaacs, Vince Gill, and Odessa Settles. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Tue, November 24, 2020
Welcome Table: A Tokens Thanksgiving Special
Each year since 2008 we've spent the Sunday before Thanksgiving at Nashville's Historic Ryman Auditorium for an evening centered on gratitude and hospitality. This special episode of the Tokens Podcast reflects on over a decade of Thanksgivings spent at the Mother Church of Country Music with some of our favorite performances. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 19, 2020
Pay Attention. Be Kind. Live Large: Naomi Shihab Nye
Naomi Shihab Nye is the author and/or editor of more than 30 volumes, the Young People’s Poet Laureate, and as we used to say in Alabama, the winner of more awards than you can shake a stick at. In this sort of wisdom-of-the-ages interview, Naomi discusses kindness, the joy which accompanies sorrow, paying attention, and living life large. She also shares two of her well-known poems: “Kindness,” and “Gate A4.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, November 12, 2020
Truth-telling, anger, and race: Vince Gill
A personal, unreserved and wide-ranging interview with Country Music Hall of Famer Vince Gill. Lee and Vince discuss why Vince has been writing songs of late about teen pregnancy, racial animosity, and sexual abuse; Merle Haggard as Vince’s “north star”; the time Vince opened for KISS; his own temper and his journey in understanding that temper; his public confrontation of the Westboro Baptist Church, and a question about his high-profile marriage with Amy Grant. Vince performs “Molly Brown” and “Price of Regret” for us in the studio. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Thu, November 05, 2020
The 4:00 AM Combat Convoy Briefing: Diana Oestreich
Diana Oestreich, a combat veteran of the Iraq war, had a “desert experience” precipitated by her sergeant’s orders in a 4.00 a.m. combat convoy safety briefing. We discuss that story and the unfolding of her remarkable experiences deployed to a combat zone, the exercise of a new kind of courage, and her new book entitled Waging Peace: One Soldier's Story of Putting Love First See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 29, 2020
The Christian Imagination: Willie James Jennings
An interview with Dr. Willie James Jennings, Associate Professor of Systematic Theology and Africana Studies at Yale University, on his book The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race. Jennings argues that the medieval European colonialist Christian vision imagined the entire globe in terms of a racist imagination; and that the continue to reap the consequences to this day; and that the Christian tradition does, in fact, have resources to re-imagine a new sort of world. LINKS: Dr. Jennings’ book, The Christian Imagination Tokens Online Master Course with Miroslav Volf, Lee C. Camp, and John Mark Hicks. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 22, 2020
“What Could Possibly Produce Someone with a Soul That Shallow?”: Stanley Hauerwas
Stanley Hauerwas was once dubbed by Time Magazine with the moniker, “America’s Greatest Theologian.” This is ironic because he’s spent much of his life criticizing American Christianity. Join us for our evening with Stanley, a beloved, profane, beautifully grumpy theologian, as he shares about non-violence, the story of Billy Dick, and a brief commentary on Christians and Donald Trump. PLUS: Stanley Hauerwas makes his acting debut with a stand-up comedy with the Tokens Radio Players. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 15, 2020
The Facts of Life: Pádraig Ó Tuama
Irish poet, peace-maker and theologian Pádraig Ó Tuama joins Lee for a discussion on practices of peace-making, including peace with oneself. They both discuss the great significance of John 21 for their own lives. And Pádraig shares readings from his poems “The Facts of Life,” “The Pedagogy of Conflict,” and “Shaking Hands.” LINKS: Padraig Books: In the Shelter Sorry For Your Troubles Daily Prayer with the Corrymeela Community Readings from the Book of Exile Tokens Online Master Courses See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 08, 2020
“I’m a Black Feminist: I Think Call Out Culture is Toxic”: Loretta Ross
Loretta Ross is a black feminist, a human rights activist, and an advocate for most things for the American political left. But in a recent New York Times opinion piece, she argues that American culture is sick with calling out, cancelling, and virtue signaling. Co-host Lauren White joins Lee Camp for a provocative conversation sure to be simultaneously celebrated and criticized by both right and left, which prescribes “calling in”—a call for accountability with love—as a creative and productive way forward. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, October 01, 2020
What Hath Christianity to do with Psychology? Mark McMinn
Mark McMinn, Professor of Psychology discusses the presumed antagonism between Christianity and psychology; the recent new research findings which posit a much larger ground of overlap; The surprising consensus between new findings in psychology and traditional Christian virtue theory; one of the common denominators in cases of psychosis and depression; and Lee discusses some of his own experience with depression. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, September 24, 2020
“I Don’t Know if I Should Say It, but, well…”: Charlie Strobel
Charlie Strobel is a sort of elder-statesman in Nashville, a Catholic priest, and founder of Room in the Inn. In a moving conversation with Charlie about some of his most important life moments, Lee and Charlie discuss loneliness and solitude; therapy and the opening of the self; receiving hospitality from the homeless as a boy; and the murder of Charlie’s mother. Charlie shares things regarding which he says “Nobody really knows this, but I guess, I don't know if I should say it, but, well…” LINKS: - Tokens Courses: tokensshow.com/courses See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, August 13, 2020
Most Outstanding Season Wrap: Lee C. Camp
Host Lee C. Camp in a recap of season one, wandering hither and yon through the archives: on the burning of the world; the apparent irrelevance of poetry, song, and story; the importance of shutting up and listening; on the refusal to practice “othering”; and the deep need for humility as a social virtue. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, August 06, 2020
I Am Not Your Enemy: Michael T. McRay
Author and story practitioner travels to some of the globe’s most contentious socio-political locales. He’s convinced you cannot argue people into a new way of seeing the world, you can only story them into new ways of thinking. In this compelling episode, we hear some of the troubling and violent, yet nonetheless hopeful, stories he’s learned. And we reflect upon personal practices of peace-making, with others and with ourselves. LINKS: Link to Michael’s book Master Course with Miroslav Volf See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, July 30, 2020
“Does This Make My Butt Look Big?”: Ashley Cleveland
Grammy and Dove Award winner Ashley Cleveland holds back little, and discusses major life lessons: from her adolescent “bad habit of behaving badly” through the storm of subsequent consequences and recovery; plus a conversation about the south and race, a horrifying murder, and Anne Lamott’s wisdom about what we do, and do not, have time for. Links: Master Course with Miroslav Volf See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, July 23, 2020
A Theology of Joy: Miroslav Volf
No theology of grumpiness here: Miroslav Volf (Professor of Theology, and Director of the Center for Faith and Culture at Yale University) sketches some initial direction for a Theology of Joy. Volf himself having suffered under a communist regime, and his father have imprisoned in a forced labor camp, he provides compelling possibilities for joy in some of the most difficult of circumstances. AND: Brother Preacher makes an (intrusive) appearance. LINKS: - Master Course with Miroslav Volf (get 50% off with code VOLF50): https://www.tokensshow.com/courses - Book: Exclusion and Embrace, Revised and Updated: A Theological Exploration of Identity, Otherness, and Reconciliation - https://amzn.to/2ZPPbqF - Book: For the Life of the World: Theology That Makes a Difference (Theology for the Life of the World) - https://amzn.to/2ZM9t46 - Book: Flourishing: Why We Need Religion in a Globalized World - https://amzn.to/32CD9CD - Book: Allah: A Christian Response - https://amzn.to/2OGBzrb See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, July 16, 2020
Recovery, the Enneagram, and Being Human: Ian Cron
Ian Cron, host of the Typology podcast and author of The Road Back to You , discusses finding himself and helping others find themselves, through the gifts of both recovery and the Enneagram. Facing resentments, as well as one’s shadow side, turn out to be key practices in becoming more truly human. LINKS: Ian’s Podcast, Typology Tokens Online Courses Tokens 2020 Subscriptions See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, July 09, 2020
Feminism Crash Course: Lauren Smelser White
What do you get when a woman from north Alabama, raised conservative in most every way, goes to a private Christian college, earns her master’s degree in literature from another Christian college, and then earns a PhD in theology from Divinity School? A Christian feminist, of course. Get a crash course on feminism, and learn why and how Christianity made Lauren Smelser White a feminist. LINKS: Join Tokens in 2020 for our online shows and courses: www.tokensshow.com/2020 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, July 02, 2020
Jewish, Yankee Feminist, New Testament Professor: Amy-Jill Levine
Jewish Vanderbilt Divinity school Professor of New Testament AJ Levine, self-described as a Yankee Feminist, joins Tokens to talk about two of her books; but more, how she once wanted to be the pope, what she does not like about liberal Christians, and a marvelous telling of the parable of the Good Samaritan. LINKS: Amy-Jill's books: The Misunderstood Jew: The Church and the Scandal of the Jewish Jesus https://amzn.to/38mDY3d Short Stories by Jesus: The Enigmatic Parables of a Controversial Rabbi https://amzn.to/3dP2gEm Update on Jameel McGee: Tokensshow.com/ac More about Tokens: Tokensshow.com/2020 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, June 25, 2020
Dirty Cop, False Arrest, and Unexpected Consequences
Andrew Collins, a white, dirty cop, falsifies his testimony. A black innocent man, Jameel McGee, gets sentenced to ten years in the Federal Pen. This is the story of the unanticipated consequences of a false-arrest gone bad, and then gone bad again. LINKS: Convicted: An Innocent Man, the Cop Who Framed Him, and an Unlikely Journey of Forgiveness and Friendship Tokens 2020 Subscriptions See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, June 18, 2020
Dorothy Day: Traditional, Radical, Christian
In the only instance of a papal address to a joint session of Congress, Pope Francis heralded Dorothy Day as one of four Americans worthy of great emulation. Host Lee C. Camp interviews Martin Doblmeier on his new film about Dorothy Day, along with his work on two other American theologians and activists Reinhold Niebuhr and Howard Thurman. EPISODE LINKS: Pope Francis Address Dorothy Day Film Howard Thurman Film Reinhold Niebuhr film Tokens 2020 Subscriptions See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, June 11, 2020
The Road to Character: David Brooks
New York Times columnist David Brooks reflects upon the major themes from his book The Road to Character , including the possibility of grace awakening the desire to live a better life, making commitments, mothers, and Saint Augustine. Lauren White joins Lee Camp for a first co-hosting stint. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, June 04, 2020
Hospitality Wanted, Given, and Given When not Wanted: Leslie Garcia, Brian McLaren, and Odessa Settles
Three very different accounts of hospitality: one entails sneaking across the border in the back of a pick-up truck. Another entails seeking out a Muslim imam to say some things after September 11. And a third entails a radical subversion of southern racism through the exercise of both medical expertise, and kindness. Our episode on hospitality comprises an interview with author Brian McLaren, a spoken word performance by Leslie Garcia, and an interview with beloved Nashville performer Odessa Settles. LINKS: Brian’s book: "Why Did Jesus, Moses, the Buddha, and Mohammed Cross the Road? Christian Identity in a Multi-Faith World" - https://amzn.to/2ZKmcVj Tokens 2020 Subscriptions: www.tokensshow.com/2020 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 28, 2020
Faith, Science, Humility: Rachel Held Evans, Francis Collins, and Ed Larson
The supposed conflict between faith and science, as typified in the debate between fundamentalist Christianity and the theory of evolution, turns out to be hiding some skeletons in its closet. This episode explores some crucial unknowns, and breaks down some false dichotomies, in conversations on site of the famed Scopes Trial in Dayton, Tennessee with Pulitzer prize-winning author Ed Larson and celebrated activist and author Rachel Held Evans (who tragically passed away in 2019), as well as an interview at Pepperdine University with Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. Find links to videos and photos from our show at the Rhea County Courthouse, along with historical photos and other helpful links on the episode page at www.tokensshow.com/blog/s1e4 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Bonus · Tue, May 26, 2020
String quartet arrangement of Marie Howe's poem, "Part of Eve's Discussion"-BONUS
A follow-up to episode three with a special performance of Marie Howe's poem, "Part of Eve's Discussion" set to music by composer Stephen Lamb. Vocalist is Cindy Morgan, Alicia Enstrom and Katelyn Westergard on Violin, Kristin Wilkinson on Viola, Nicholas Gold on Cello. More about the Tokens Podcast at tokensshow.com/podcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 21, 2020
Murder, Race and Faith: Jerry Mitchell
Host Lee C. Camp interviews the MacArthur Genius Grant recipient Jerry Mitchell on his new book Race Against Time: A Reporter Reopens the Unsolved Murder Cases of the Civil Rights Era . The conversation discusses Jerry’s anger, his quest for justice, and the manner in which Jerry’s faith drove that quest, contributing to convictions in 24 of those cold Civil Rights era murder cases. LINKS: - Website episode page: https://www.tokensshow.com/blog/s1e1 - Jerry Book link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1451645139/ref=as\_li\_tl?camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1451645139&ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&linkId=a9e1e3e6aa2da672a65d67843ffabcc3&tag=tokensshow-20 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 21, 2020
Humility and the Art of Politics: Bill Haslam
Host Lee C. Camp invents a phrase: the “sunk-suffering fallacy.” Borrowing from the economists’ sunk-cost fallacy, the sunk-suffering fallacy provides a potential explanation for why some Christians tend to be so horribly partisan. Is there any way out of such a mess? Lee wonders about such questions in his interview with former Tennessee governor Bill Haslam. Haslam reveals an almost jarring key to the kingdom of doing public service, and some virtues to live by. LINKS: - Website episode page: https://www.tokensshow.com/blog/s1e1 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices
Thu, May 21, 2020
Poetry as Politics: Poet Laureates Tracy K. Smith and Marie Howe
A strange conversion experience has happened to religion here in the Bible belt: once known as a key to social transformation, these days it’s more likely the mechanism of socio-political conservatism. So perhaps one of the key questions to living life well in our contemporary world is how to get troubled. Poetry, anyone? The unlikely possibility that poetry could do anything of the sort is explored by former U.S. Poet Laureate Tracy K. Smith, and former NY State Poet Laureate Marie Howe, as they both claim the possibility that poetry can do a great deal of troubling of the waters, can provide a counter-spell to the hypnotizing forces of either social hostility or consumerism. LINKS: Tracy K. Smith book, “Life on Mars: Poems” Tracy K. Smith book, " Wade in the Water: Poems” Marie Howe book, ”What the Living Do” Marie Howe book, “Magdalene: Poems” Tokens 2020 Subscriptions See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Sissy Goff: How to Raise Resilient Kids

Unabridged Interview: Sheryl Crow

Sheryl Crow: Becoming Who She Always Was

Unabridged Interview: Mike Cosper

Mike Cosper: A Critique of American Christianity

Unabridged Interview: Rainn Wilson

Rainn Wilson: Dwight Schrute Talks About Religion (Best of NSE)

Unabridged Interview: Marisa Franco

Marisa Franco: How to Make (and Keep) Friends According To Science

Unabridged Interview: Drew Holcomb

Drew Holcomb: All My Money Is in the Memory Bank

Unabridged Interview: Jacques Pépin

Jacques Pépin: Food and The Good Life

Unabridged Interview: Francis Collins

Francis Collins: The Road to Wisdom in an Age of Distrust

Unabridged Interview: Nancy French

Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe

Unabridged Interview: Mpho Tutu van Furth

Mpho Tutu van Furth: The Tutu Legacy of Forgiveness and Reconciliation

Unabridged Interview: Russ Taff

Russ Taff: Music, Addiction, and Redemption

Unabridged Interview: Alexandra Solomon

Alexandra Solomon: How to Have Flourishing Relationships

Unabridged Interview: Shankar Vedantam

Shankar Vedantam: Hidden Brain

Unabridged Interview: Nadia Bolz-Weber

Nadia Bolz-Weber: From Fundamentalism to Stand-up Comedy to Ordained Pastor

Unabridged Interview: Esau McCaulley

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Unabridged Interview: Tom Paxton

Tom Paxton: Greenwich Village, Folk Music, and 60 Years of Song

Unabridged Interview: Makoto Fujimura

NSE Presents: A Breach Repairer’s Song

Makoto Fujimura: Art and Faith

Unabridged Interview: Oliver Burkeman

Oliver Burkeman: In The New Year Embrace Wonder Not Productivity

Unabridged Interview: Kelly Corrigan

Kelly Corrigan: The Power of Vulnerability

Unabridged Interview: Meghan Sullivan

Meghan Sullivan: What It Takes to Live a Good Life

Unabridged Interview: The Hillbilly Thomists

The Hillbilly Thomists: Bourbon, Bluegrass, and the Bible

Unabridged Interview: Audrey Assad

Drew Holcomb and Audrey Assad: Vulnerable Art

Unabridged Interview: Peter Levine

Peter Levine: How the Body Holds and Heals Trauma

Unabridged Interview: Malcolm Gladwell

Malcolm Gladwell and Tracy K. Smith: Can Curiosity Save Your Holidays?

Unabridged Interview: Kathryn Gin Lum

Kathryn Gin Lum: How The Label Heathen Shaped the World

Unabridged Interview: Tim Shriver

Tim Shriver: Living Life for Others

Unabridged Interview: Philip Mangano

Philip Mangano: Abolishing Homelessness

Unabridged Interview: Christian Wiman

Christian Wiman: Poetry Against Despair

Unabridged Interview: Russell Moore and David French

Russell Moore and David French: How Should Christians Do Politics?

Unabridged Interview: Musa al-Gharbi

Musa al-Gharbi: We Have Never Been Woke

Unabridged Interview: Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley

Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley: Assembling Tomorrow

Unabridged Interview: Greg Boyle

Greg Boyle: Cherished Belonging (Best of NSE)

Unabridged Interview: Meghan O’Gieblyn

Meghan O’Gieblyn: Technology and Humanity (Best of NSE)

Unabridged Interview: Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson: What If We Get Climate Action Right?

Unabridged Interview: Edith Hall

Edith Hall: How Ancient Wisdom can Change Your Life (Best of NSE)

Unabridged Interview: Cyntoia Brown Long

Cyntoia Brown Long: Free Cyntoia (Best of NSE)

Unabridged Interview: Quincy Byrdsong

Quincy Byrdsong: Tuskegee, Healthcare, Justice (Best of NSE)

Unabridged Interview: Jerry Mitchell: Murder, Race, and Faith

Jerry Mitchell: Murder, Race, and Faith (Best of NSE)

Unabridged Interview: Clay Hobbs

Clay Hobbs: The Wisdom of Numbering Your Days

Unabridged Interview: Amishi Jha