Be Worth* Following
What makes a leader worth* following? That little asterisk next to “worth” is the answer. It references the hidden truth that lives at the very core of effective (and ineffective) leadership. The Be Worth* Following Podcast explores the surprising truth of what actually makes someone worth following and how it plays out in the lives of real leaders. Join host Tim Spiker, author of The Only Leaders Worth* Following, as he talks to leaders, thinkers, and researchers about what actually drives effective leadership across the globe and over time.
Thu, March 27, 2025
To Tell You the Truth with Matt Painter
Every year in March, the Be Worth* Following podcast gets its leadership lessons from the world of college basketball. And boy do we have a great one for you this year. Purdue University’s Matt Painter joins us to talk about his leadership of one the nation’s most successful men’s basketball programs. When you look at the success Matt and Purdue have had, you might be tempted to think he has always confidently trusted his instincts. And you’d be wrong. Join us for a behind the scenes conversation with one of the nation’s best coaches.
Wed, February 05, 2025
Joy and Energy with Will Graham
In this episode of Be Worth* Following , Will Graham takes us inside a reality many leaders wrestle with but few openly discuss—workplace dysfunction. Once a sharp critic of workplace culture, Will unexpectedly found himself in a leadership role, facing the very challenges he had spent years analyzing. That experience, along with a near-burnout moment, reshaped his understanding of leadership, productivity, and the power of aligning people with the work that fuels them. His journey—from frustration to insight—offers a compelling look at what it really takes to make work better. Click Here for a Free Copy (+ shipping) of Will Graham's book, Make Work Better
Wed, December 04, 2024
Capturing Hearts and Minds to Get Authentic Buy-In with Tria Deibert (throwback)
We've added to our subscriber list over the past two years. That means there are some great episodes that some of you have missed. So to finish up 2024 on the Be Worth* Following podcast, we are doing a throwback episode from October 2022. That's when we got to visit with Tria Deibert. As the Vice President of Culture at Hackensack Meridian Health , Tria says that her job sets her soul on fire, and that she’s using the position to help others find the same excitement. Tria never expected to end up in the culture field. Her background is in marketing, but a leader saw potential in her, and she decided to take a big, bold leap. In this episode, Tria shares how her marketing experience enables her to use meaningful messaging to engage and inspire people in her organization. Listen in to learn more about how to elicit authentic buy-in and hear how that strengthens an organization from the inside out. When people genuinely love their work, they are able to achieve more and help businesses grow. How do we know this? Just give Tria a listen.
Wed, November 06, 2024
Connection Raised to the Power of 4 with Jason Cochran
In this episode of the Be Worth* Following Podcast, host Tim Spiker welcomes back for his second appearance on the show psychologist Jason Cochran. Together they take a deep dive into Jason’s original work on the four principles of connection in the workplace. This thoughtful discussion explores the strategic advantages of connection at work and includes practical applications that leaders can engage in immediately to increase connection at work for everyone they lead.
Wed, October 02, 2024
Developing Leaders at Home and Work with Chad Johnson
Tim Spiker hosts Chad Johnson on the Be Worth Following Podcast, discussing how unique abilities can significantly boost leadership effectiveness. Chad, a successful entrepreneur and coach, emphasizes identifying and honing these abilities in oneself and others to create maximum value and impact. Reflecting on his own journey from homeschooling and early inspirations like Zig Ziglar to his current role with Strategic Coach, Chad shares how understanding and leveraging unique abilities has transformed his approach to leadership and personal growth. He also delves into the importance of applying these principles at home, advocating for leadership development around the dinner table to raise confident, capable, and inwardly sound individuals. The conversation underscores the importance of proactive, self-directed development and the potential to extend these transformative leadership practices beyond the workplace into family life.
Wed, September 04, 2024
Employee Flourishing with Dr. Brent Fessler
An eye-opening episode of the Be Worth Following Podcast! Dr. Brent Fessler, Principal at Integreaters, shares what it looks like for leaders to prioritize the flourishing of their employees and company culture. Dr. Brent is an integrator, which means he helps organizations integrate values, purpose, organizational change, and character development. In this episode, Brent shares about an idea called trauma informed leadership, explores what it looks like to value employee flourishing, and talks about how to get company values off the walls and into the people. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, August 07, 2024
Hope in Small Teams with Bennett Bratt
In this episode of the Be Worth* Following podcast, host Tim Spiker sits down with Bennett Bratt, author of The Team Discovered and former Vice President of HR Talent and Organizational Capability at T-Mobile. Bennett's extensive experience has led him to develop a perspective on teams and leadership that challenges the status quo. In this discussion, Bennett shares stories and insights that will invite you rethink how teams work. If you've ever wondered what really drives team success, this episode promises to offer fresh, thought-provoking viewpoints that just might change the way you approach both leading teams and being an effective team member.
Wed, July 03, 2024
You Can't Outrun Yourself with Christopher O'Reilly
In this episode of the Be Worth* Following podcast, Christopher O'Reilly, an executive team member at the internationally-renowned Onsite Partners and leader of Milestones, joins host Tim Spiker for an insightful exploration of the intersection between mental health and leadership. Drawing from his extensive clinical experience, Christopher delves into the hidden pitfalls of multitasking and the transformative power of simply being present. He also shares a practical method for leaders to check in on their mental well-being, which simultaneously improves relationships and increases self-awareness. Tune in to discover how even small steps in nurturing your mental health can elevate your leadership effectiveness.
Wed, June 05, 2024
Leading in the Strength of Who You Are with Christi Gordy
In this episode of the Be Worth Following podcast, Christi Gordy, Founder and Executive Director of Canopy Life International, joins host Tim Spiker to share about her leadership of the organization. Canopy Life Academy is a boarding school dedicated to empowering vulnerable Kenyan children by equipping them with leadership skills, critical thinking, and innovation, aiming to lead their communities out of poverty. Christi shares key moments that impacted her leadership approach, highlighting the importance of understanding one’s purpose, the transformative power of embracing one's identity, and the challenges and achievements of leading a nonprofit from thousands of miles away. Christi's story is a testament to the power of visionary leadership, the importance of being inwardly sound and others-focused, and the impact of nurturing the next generation of leaders through empathy, understanding, and innovative education. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, May 08, 2024
Reverse Your Org Chart with Dr. Erik Hoekstra
On this episode of the Be Worth* Following podcast, Dr. Erik Hoekstra, President at Dordt University, joins Tim to share his perspectives on leadership in the unique context of a small Christian univeristy. It’s clear immediately that Erik’s deep faith has informed and shaped his approach to leadership. He believes in a human approach to leadership, not a utilitarian one, and is always eager to work back to this center when he gets off track. Erik is passionate about keeping himself accessible to his workers and students, inviting feedback, and pressing into equal parts humility and charisma. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, April 24, 2024
Encourage, Esteem, Love with Bart Wear
On the latest episode of the Be Worth* Following podcast, Tim sits down with Bart Wear, a former CEO whose leadership is anchored in the care of people. Throughout his career in industrial construction, Bart held firm to the belief that kindness and fairness should be the cornerstones of leadership. Even in moments of accountability, his approach was rooted in empathy and understanding. For Bart, "fair is fair for everybody," and this mantra guided every decision he made. But Bart's leadership journey didn't end with his retirement from construction. In fact, it took on a whole new meaning with his involvement in Homes of Hope, an organization dedicated to transforming shipping containers into vital facilities like schools and medical clinics for underserved communities worldwide. Join us as Bart shares his personal mission of esteeming, encouraging, and loving others—a mission that transcends industries and continues to make a profound impact on the lives of those around him. Get ready to be inspired and uplifted by Bart's extraordinary dedication to making the world a better place, one act of kindness at a time. Tune in now! Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, April 10, 2024
Uncommonly Great Leadership with Mark Miller
Mark Miller joins the Be Worth* Following Podcast for the second time to share about his new book, Uncommon Greatness. Since Mark retired from Chick Fil A he has made it his second-half-of-life mission to develop extraordinary leaders. Uncommon greatness comes from uncommon leadership, characterized by a focus on others and a commitment to fundamental actions. On the podcast he shares what it looks like to make this shift to uncommon greatness and why the practical and fundamental must go together. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, March 27, 2024
From Coach to Leader With John Beilein
In this episode of the Be Worth* Following Podcast, we meet Coach John Beilein, a winning coach who was "forced" into a position of growth later in his career. Coach Beilein didn’t allow his previous success to preempt changes that were needed to help his team succeed. He humbly embraced the opportunity to grow and develop. Coach Beilein’s philosophy of leadership is now anchored by his values, and focusing on relationships before results. Listen to hear why he prioritizes connection and the profound impact it has had on his coaching. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, March 13, 2024
Greatness Takes Time with Cuonzo Martin
We love March Madness at The Aperio. Every March Tim Spiker, a former college basketball player at Purdue and Washington University, hosts conversations with basketball colleagues and coaches who share their leadership experiences from the world of sports. On this episode of the Be Worth* Following Podcast, former professional basketball player and college coach Cuonzo Martin—aka “Zo”—shares the life experiences that led to his passion for basketball, coaching, leadership . . . and helping young people in his community. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, February 28, 2024
Two Rules of Leadership with Peter Anderton
When it comes to leadership development, we often look for the “silver bullet”—what is the next tool or technique that can help me become a better leader? The reality is there is no silver bullet, no tip or technique that can enable exceptional leadership. In this episode of the Be Worth* Following podcast, Peter Anderton, executive coach, and keynote speaker, reminds us of some simple truths about leadership that have been around for millenia. He shares these as two rules he believes every leader should know in order to remove the “training wheels” of their leadership and truly impact their teams . . . and the bottom line. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, February 14, 2024
Regard the Person, Reap the Results with Amir Ghannad
We often have the theme “care for your people” on episodes of the Be Worth* Following Podcast, and this episode is another one of those times. Meet Amir Ghannad , keynote speaker, founder of The Ghannad Group, and author of the book The Transformative Leader . Amir is an inspiring leader and human being, and his success story is a direct result of being Others Focused and Inwardly Sound. In this episode you will hear the extraordinary account of Amir’s younger years as well as his transition into the leadership development space. Amir also shares three issues that he has seen plague and prevent organizations from reaching their full potential. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, January 31, 2024
Four Stages of the Visionary Leader with Clayton Stenson
Mental models help us understand how the world works, and for leaders how leadership works. Clayton Stenson, relationship coach for visionaries and second in commands, offers a mental model to help understand the complicated relationship between a visionary leader, and their second who supports them. In this episode of the Be Worth* Following podcast, Clayton shares how visionary leaders cycle through different stages and how this affects the teams they lead, and their direct support. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, January 17, 2024
Leading a Network of Relationships with Dr. Mary Shippy
Relationships are at the heart of every organization, and on this episode of The Be Worth* Following podcast, Dr. Mary Shippy, veteran coach and leadership consultant, shares some profound yet simple ways to strengthen these relationships. Dr. Shippy uses dynamic models and principles in her coaching with relationship-building at its core. In this episode she talks with Tim about what inhibits and enables a leader’s ability to be curious, how we often write incorrect stories based on limited information, and what is at the core of forgiveness. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, January 03, 2024
On the Anvil with Andrew Culp
Education. Middle School boys. Blacksmithing. This episode of the Be Worth* Following Podcast is a one-of-a-kind. Andrew Culp is the founder and principal of the Anvil Academy, a learning community that is focused on mentoring boys through the messy and formative years of middle school. While it may seem that education for middle school boys has little to do with leadership, Andrew’s insights are profound and applicable. In this episode you will learn the story of how Anvil was birthed and why. Most importantly, you will be invited to apply the metaphor of the anvil and formation to your own life and leadership. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, December 20, 2023
The Future is Now with Gary Bridgewater
Wise leaders have their eyes on the future of the companies they lead. Exceptional leaders prioritize the development of future leaders now. One such leader, Gary Bridgewater, CEO at Baker Group, says this: “I want to look at this company at some point, and I actually want to have a twinge of jealousy about how good they're doing.” Gary has prioritized leadership development that aims at WHO a leader is. He has put energy, time, and money toward developing Others Focused and Inwardly Sound leaders—including himself. In this episode you will hear about the foundation that was laid at a young age for Gary, how he prioritizes the future of Baker by developing leaders now, and the work that he is currently engaged in to become an even more exceptional leader. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, December 06, 2023
Business with a Soul with Mike Salguero
Imagine a world in which businesses existed not only for profit, but also for impact and purpose. Mike Salguero, Founder and CEO of Butcherbox, launched his business for these exact reasons. But the company today is different from the one that launched, and Mike says he allowed the company to evolve in the way that it did. For Mike, leading a company is often like raising kids—you have limited control and each wants to be what it wants to be. So leaders can establish necessary guardrails, but also embrace the process of growing a business with wisdom and open hands. In this episode you will hear how Mike got his start as an entrepreneur, the history and ethos of Butcherbox, and Mike's perspectives on executive team dynamics. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, November 22, 2023
Exceptional Leaders Have the E.D.G.E with Adam Tarnow
According to our latest podcast guest, “A leader is a person who chooses to take initiative for the benefit of others.” Adam Tarnow, author, leadership coach, and podcast host, joined Tim Spiker to talk about his passion for leadership, and how emerging leaders can stand out. Adam’s own arrival into the leadership development space was quite unique, and he established his impact with a leadership development firm, a book, and a podcast. Adam asserts that there are four overarching qualities that cause emerging leaders to stand out, or have the E.D.G.E, and he shares these, and more, in the episode. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, November 08, 2023
Mattering . . . Matters (way more than you think), with Zach Mercurio
This episode will change how you think about the impact leaders have on their followers as human beings. Zach Mercurio, author, keynote speaker, and researcher, joined the Be Worth* Following podcast to share how purposeful leadership and mattering can change lives. Zach began researching the concept of “mattering” while trying to discover why some individuals lived and worked with more purpose, regardless of the kind of work they did. What he discovered has tremendous implications for leaders and guides the work that Zach does today. In this episode of the podcast, Zach shares some of his own personal story and passion behind purpose and mattering in leadership. Listen for not only impactful research, but also practical ways to help others know they matter. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, October 25, 2023
Leaders Trust First, with Frederic de Rougemont
We believe that the message of Who* Not What applies to leaders in all parts of the world, and this episode with Frederic de Rougemont supports just that. Frederic, a former veteran CEO turned strategic advisor and consultant, has not only experienced the journey of becoming more Inwardly Sound and Others Focused, but he has made Who* Not What an explicit part of how he develops others. In this episode of the podcast, Frederic shares about his own leadership journey—how he became a more Others Focused and Inwardly Sound leader. Hint: it takes time. But according to Frederic, the effort is worth it. Because while leading with fear may look successful in the short term, leading with trust is actually the better way. Frederic shares ways that he believes trust is built with followers, and what that looks like practically in an organization. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, October 11, 2023
Trading Frustration for Fascination with Dr. Tim Elmore
When it comes to diversity in the workplace, there is “an elephant in the room” that we often fail to notice. Dr. Tim Elmore, Founder of Growing Leaders, Inc, wants to bring attention to the generational gap that can often cause misunderstanding and frustration in the workplace. In this latest episode of the Be Worth* Following Podcast, Tim Spiker and Dr. Elmore talk about generational diversity—the topic of Dr. Elmore’s latest book— and how to turn frustration into fascination. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website.
Wed, September 27, 2023
Leading With Love with Joel Manby
Episode Description Joel Manby is a former CEO whose leadership style was revolutionized when he discovered the astounding ROA for being a loving leader. Since this epiphany, Joel has made dramatic changes in the way he acts and talks about leadership. After serving as CEO for several decades in the auto and family theme park industries, Joel wrote Love Works: Seven Timeless Principles for Effective Leaders to share how showing love is a powerful leadership strategy. In this episode, host Tim Spiker talks with Joel about his own personal leadership journey, the powerful results of leading with love, and some examples of what this looks like in practical leadership. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website
Wed, September 13, 2023
Deliberately Present, with Dr. Syl Trepanier
Syl Trepanier is the Senior Vice President, Senior Chief Nursing officer at Providence St. Joseph Health. On this episode of the Be Worth* Following podcast, Syl talks with Tim Spiker about being a deliberate leader who looks to inspire, shows up fully present, and calls himself out (i.e., shares what areas he is personally working on). Syl is a reminder that all leaders are in process, even if they have already come a long way. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website
Wed, August 30, 2023
Flipping the Script with Lee Scott
Lee Scott is the Founder and Chief Change Agent at Unleashing Leaders, a national network of consultants and facilitators who work with willing clients to inspire what they call an “epidemic of leadership and integrity.” This episode explores the unique business model of Unleashing Leaders and their approach by working with their clients shoulder-to-shoulder. We also hear Lee’s philosophy on what produces actual change in behavior. Additional Resources can be found on the Be Worth* Following Podcast Website
Wed, August 16, 2023
The Mentality of a World-Class Talent Developer with Chip Toth
Chip Toth, President and Owner at LeadersInspire is a respected people developer passionate to help individuals reach their potential and thrive personally and professionally. This episode explores the significance of meaningful interactions, being there for clients beyond business, and supporting them through challenges. Chip emphasizes the need for leaders to balance soft skills with hard outcomes, and shares experiences of delivering tough messages effectively. Listen in to uncover Chip's perspective on leadership - which has led to increased productivity and success. Additional Resources Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio Connect with Chip on LinkedIn Learn more about PeopleForward Network
Wed, August 02, 2023
From Bagel Shop to Author with David Mead
David Mead's journey has been guided by his profound belief in the importance of human connection and individual growth. With a genuine focus on human beings, he understands that the key to unlocking potential is by fostering an environment where people feel valued and supported. David shares his experiences working in sales, finding inspiration from Simon Sinek's powerful talk, and ultimately joining Sinek's team to develop an online course. The episode explores David's insights on balancing empowerment and enforcing standards in the workplace, the importance of empathy in accountability, and the concept of mutual accountability in leadership. Additional Resources Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio Connect with David Mead David’s Website Learn more about PeopleForward Network
Wed, July 19, 2023
Winning Through Empowerment with Chad Peterman
Tim Spiker sits down with Chad Peterman , President and CEO of Peterman Brothers , a residential trade services supplier. Together, they explore the concept of empowerment within the trades industry. Chad shares various ways in which Peterman Brothers promotes leadership within the organization - emphasize regular communication, provide leadership classes, and have established a leadership academy, which offers ongoing training and career paths for technicians. Listen in to this inspiring episode for inspiration around leadership and growth within the trades industry. Additional Resources Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio Chad on LinkedIn Peterman Brothers Website Learn more about PeopleForward Network
Thu, July 06, 2023
Marketing Your Culture with Jen Bauer
In this episode, Tim talks with Jen Bauer , Senior Vice President, Marketing & Culture at Miron Construction about her personal journey, highlighting the crucial role of culture in shaping her organization's success. Jen emphasizes the strong link between marketing and culture, asserting that culture defines both the internal and external identity of an organization. Despite challenges of the pandemic, Jen and her team focused on safeguarding employees and nurturing the company's culture. Listen in on what is uncovered around the significance of culture, authenticity, and systems in building a thriving organization. Gain valuable insights to empower your own organizational culture. Additional Resources Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio* Connect with Jen Bauer on LinkedIn Miron Construction Website Learn more about Anchor Investments Learn more about PeopleForwa
Wed, June 21, 2023
Living an Intentional Life with Josh Etress
Anchor Investments is a private real estate company on a mission to become "America's most generous real estate company,” and Tim Spiker is joined with Anchor’s COO, Josh Etress to share the importance of being intentional and investing for maximum impact. Josh provides insights into Anchor's success, such as their unique approach of repurposing former churches into boutique hotels that give back to underserved communities. Additional Resources: Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio* Connect with Josh on LinkedIn Learn more about Anchor Investments Learn more about PeopleForward Network
Wed, June 07, 2023
Inside Out Leadership with Jay Rudman
In this episode, Tim Spiker engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Jay Rudman, CEO of Size Stream exploring effective leadership and the importance of investing in employees and customers. Jay shares his personal leadership journey, drawing from experience as a hired CEO, and introduces the concept of inside-out management. Feedback and listening are emphasized as crucial elements of effective leadership, creating an environment where individuals feel valued. Listen in for invaluable takeaways on effective leadership and gain practical wisdom and actionable insights to make a lasting impact as a leader. Additional Resources Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio Connect with Jay on LinkedIn Learn more about Size Stream Learn more about PeopleForward Network
Wed, May 24, 2023
Taking the Next Right Step with Jason Lippert
This episode explores the significance of leadership qualities and values in establishing a strong culture. Jason Lippert, President + CEO of Lippert Components sheds light on the critical role of CEO support in driving a culture movement within organizations. Discover why taking care of people, treating them with dignity, and fostering their engagement are essential elements that result in remarkable benefits such as reduced turnover, enhanced efficiency, improved quality, heightened safety, and increased innovation. Additional Resources Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio* Connect with Jason on LinkedIn Learn more about Lippert Components Follow PeopleForward Network on LinkedIn Learn more about PeopleForward Network
Wed, May 10, 2023
Leading the Leadership Long Game with Scott Peterson
Scott Peterson , CEO of Interstates , is committed to developing people, culture, and leaders for the long-term. Scott emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, clarity of personal purpose, and building the "muscle" of talking about weaknesses and struggles to lead with the heart of a servant. This episode explores the different types of leadership (personal, team, and organizational), and the importance of investing in cultural and leadership development, even in the face of short-term pressure for results. Listen in to hear Scott's personal mission statement, his experience with influential teachers and leaders, and the systematic approach Interstates takes to developing leaders and reinforcing leadership on a consistent basis. Additional Resources Connect with Tim on LinkedIn Learn more about The Aperio* Connect with Scott on LinkedIn Learn more about Interstates Learn more about PeopleForward Network
Wed, April 26, 2023
Humans Work Here (More than a Cliché) with Chris Allaire
Developing the teams you are leading is not only an organizational and culture exercise, it is also a personal one. Chris Allaire , Founder and CEO of Averity , believes strongly that leaders need to grow alongside their organizations and he’s extremely intentional about doing so. In this episode, Chris shares his insights on leadership development, personal growth, and building a positive workplace culture. He emphasizes the significance of telling stories to drive culture and makes a case for making work fun. Listen in to learn how to build a culture that fosters growth, positivity, and playfulness. Additional Resources: Connect with Chris on LinkedIn https://www.averityteam.com/ https://www.averityteam.com/human/
Wed, April 12, 2023
Throwback: It’s the Trying that Transforms with Mark Miller
“When I walk into a room, I'm trying to figure out how I can add value. Sometimes it means being in charge and sometimes it means taking out the trash.” Mark Miller , VP of High Performance Leadership at Chick-fil-A and best-selling author of the book Smart Leadership , knows calling yourself a servant leader is one thing, but acting on those words is another. In this episode, we’re revisiting our conversation with Mark, where he shares the benefits of being a leader who is others-focused and leads with generosity. Listen in to learn how you can adopt an “adding value” mentality and hear about what Mark calls “the leadership fountain of youth.”
Wed, March 29, 2023
Narrating Your Leadership with Philip Engle
What would it look like for you to leverage everyday moments to develop those you lead? Philip Engle , Senior Coach and General Manager at focus412 , was lucky enough to have a leader early on who not only told him what decisions he was making but why he was making them. The experience of hearing someone narrate their leadership allowed Philip to constantly absorb guiding principles that he could later apply to different situations. In this episode, Philip discusses how to consistently create and take advantage of opportunities for developing others and the mutually beneficial relationships that approach builds. Along the way, you’ll hear about the leadership practices that translate from non-profit spaces to the business world, including how to motivate people beyond the draw of compensation.
Wed, March 15, 2023
Having Fun Yet? with Mona Veiseh
Mona Veiseh was born in Iran in the midst of war and fled with her family when she was still young. Her parents repeatedly sacrificed stability and safety in order to give their children the opportunity to be in a place where they could thrive. Their examples of selflessness and commitment to caring for others formed the foundation of Mona’s leadership philosophy. In this episode, Mona shares how she focuses on helping people understand their strengths so they can perform them in her role as CEO of NuWest Healthcare at NuWest Group . She believes in the power of getting people into places where they can excel. Listen in to hear the steps you can take to walk alongside your people as they identify their ultimate goals and help them create plans to achieve them.
Wed, March 01, 2023
Throwback: Winning by Treating People Right with Gene Keady
“If you're honest with people, they can trust you.” Purdue University ’s all-time winningest coach Gene Keady never over-complicates his leadership philosophy. He sticks to the basics - be honest, treat people right, and work hard. Last year we featured a two-part March Madness miniseries on Be Worth* Following, and we’re taking the opportunity to throwback to the first episode. In it, Coach Keady shared why the work that’s done on the court is more than just about a game, it’s about life. As you listen, you’ll learn what traits inspire others to follow you, whether you’re in a boardroom or a locker room. Once you’ve finished this episode, we encourage you to check out part two of the series, a conversation on building a championship culture with Mark Edwards . Additional Resources: Defensive Alertness plaque: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OfvHG1mV096_XaDSl8dEhHdc4gZCjBd_/view?usp=sharing
Wed, February 15, 2023
Be What You Want to See with Michael Goebel
Michael Goebel , CEO at Parker Adventist Hospital , believes in the power of high trust and transparency to create a successful organization. Michael has led several businesses in the healthcare industry through extremely challenging times, including bringing a company back from the brink of bankruptcy and weathering the storm of the pandemic. In this episode, Michael discusses why no matter the circumstances, he always chooses transparency. He has found that approach is the most effective means of building not just trust but respect. Listen in to learn about the foundational actions required to earn the respect of your team and hear how to then tap into the motivation that lives inside of them.
Wed, February 01, 2023
Giving Out and Giving In with Jonathan Reynolds
Jonathan Reynolds , CEO of Titus Talent Strategies , has generosity as one of his personal core values. This means generosity in giving back to the community and to his team members. He knows enabling his people to have a positive impact on others creates a feeling of connectedness that motivates them to grow. Jonathan has spent most of his career setting ambitious goals and pushing on the gas pedal until he reaches them. That ‘no-brakes’ approach, however, comes at a price, and one he's starting to realize is far too high. In this episode, Jonathan reflects on the importance of leaders investing in their own inner world. Listen in as he explores the paradox of striving to make an impact through his company while struggling to care for his own well-being in the process. Additional Resources: Get your copy of Jonathan’s book, Right Seat, Right People Check out Traction by Gino Wickman Check out Ordering Your Private World by Gordon MacDonald
Wed, January 18, 2023
Go in With Your Hair on Fire with Dave Lovell
Dave Lovell grew up listening to early leadership gurus’ tapes and was exposed to success, leadership, and entrepreneurship. Throughout his career, he’s started, bought, and sold over 40 businesses, and while he’s now in what he calls the last third of his life, he has no plans to slow down. In this episode, Dave shares how his lack of leadership guidance when he was young inspires him to invest in younger generations, pouring into them his knowledge and experience. Listen in to learn why instead of assuming you have to retire and stop working, Dave encourages you to reprioritize and reengage with people around you so you can continue to live out your purpose. Along the way, you’ll also hear about Dave’s mentorship of our host, Tim Spiker, and what it takes to truly care about someone enough to be able to have necessary, tough conversations. Additional Resources: Learn more about Ikigai Check out Dave’s Podcast, One Good Idea
Wed, January 04, 2023
Willing to Go There with Tim Leman
“Do you want to actually be CEO or do you just want the title?” When Tim Leman first took over as CEO of Gibson he felt stuck because he couldn’t seem to gain the trust of his managers. That simple question, posed to him by his predecessor, helped him realize the true problem. He hadn’t taken the time to build relationships with all of his people. In this episode, Tim shares examples of how he cultivates connections with others by having conversations other leaders avoid and sharing parts of his life people can relate to. Listen in to hear about the importance of clear, meaningful communication and how to balance the work side of being in charge with the human side. Additional Resources: Get your copy of Tim’s book rEvolution
Wed, December 21, 2022
Throwback: (Actually) Leading with Values with Andrew Larson
"Let the values guide you." It’s a timeless piece of advice from Andrew Larson . Which is why we are rereleasing this episode almost exactly one year after its initial launch. A ndrew, CEO of Gustave A. Larson Company, an HVAC wholesaler, inherited both the company and their values from his father. Every day Andrew puts in the work to make sure each and every person in the organization lives out those core values. After all, it’s easy to follow once you know the direction to go. In this episode, listen to hear how clear-cut values keep everyone on the same page and how sticking to them has led Andrew and the company to see record profits as well. Additional Resources: Andrew’s Father’s letter to the company How to be A Great Boss: https://www.eosworldwide.com/how-to-be-a-great-boss-book Leadership and Self Deception: https://arbingerinstitute.com/Landing/LeadershipAndSelfDeception.html The Culture Index
Wed, December 07, 2022
Vision, Belief, and Hope with Greg Muccio
Vision, belief, and hope. Greg Muccio , Head of Talent Acquisition at Southwest Airlines , roots his leadership approach in these three key words. In this episode, Greg shares how he falls back on them to overcome challenges. He starts by casting a vision that includes how each employee contributes to its success. Then he intentionally recognizes employees as they work toward shared goals. In times of difficulty, it’s practices like these that offer hope to those who need it. Listen in to learn how Greg provides inspiration and support and hear the story of a leader who did the same for him.
Wed, November 23, 2022
Widening the Trail with Randie Dial
“Who are you as a person, where do you want to go, and how can I help you get there?” Randie Dial , Managing Principal at CliftonLarsonAllen , asks these three questions of every person who joins his team. Randie chooses to focus on what he can do for his people over what they can do for the organization because in the end, a trusting culture isn’t built on what they can do for him. In this episode, Randie shares how this approach lays a foundation of trust, which, in turn, creates teams that are more engaged and invested in the overall success of the company. Listen in to learn how he takes caring from concept to culture. Along the way, you’ll also hear about what Randie calls “the alumni path,” a revolutionary business concept you don’t want to miss.
Wed, November 09, 2022
People Matter (And So Does Their Work) with Steve Browne
“You can't say, ‘People matter,’ if you don't find out why they matter.” Steve Browne, Chief People Officer at Larosa’s Pizzeria, lives up to his title by taking a people-first approach to his job. He knows genuinely caring about employees and building relationships with team members creates opportunities for development and innovation. In this episode, Steve discusses how he’s pushing the needle forward at Larosa’s. He starts by seeing people through a strength-based lens and making space for emotional decompression with a practice he calls “dumping your buckets.” Listen in for more on using collaboration to move organizations forward and to hear Steve pull the rug out from under some HR stereotypes. Additional Resources: Check out Frederick Herzberg’s Motivation-Hygiene Theory Learn more about SHRM
Wed, October 26, 2022
The Gift of Presence with Frank Kelly III
Exceptional leaders maintain their excellence by continually investing in their own development and the development of those they lead. Frank Kelly III , CEO of Kelly Benefits , knows everything rises and falls on leadership, which is why he’s committed to investing his time, money, and energy into his people. In this episode, Frank talks about the inner workings of the leadership academy in his organization and the tools they use to make it work. He also explains why he and his senior leadership team spend a significant amount of time working to grow both personally and professionally. As you listen, you’ll learn how those efforts allow them to achieve a level of excellence that sets their company apart.
Wed, October 12, 2022
Capturing Hearts and Minds to Get Authentic Buy-In with Tria Deibert
When people genuinely love their work, they are able to achieve more and help businesses grow. Tria Deibert , Vice President of Culture at Hackensack Meridian Health , says her job sets her soul on fire, and she’s using the position to help others find the same excitement. Tria never expected to end up in the culture field. Her background is in marketing, but a leader saw potential in her, and she decided to take a big, bold leap. In this episode, Tria shares how her marketing experience enables her to use meaningful messaging to engage and inspire people in her organization. Listen in to learn more about how to elicit authentic buy-in and hear how that strengthens an organization from the inside out.
Wed, September 28, 2022
Be Better Tomorrow with Laurie Butz
It’s never too late to develop yourself as a leader or as a person, you just have to be open to change. Laurie Butz is the CEO and President of Capital Credit Union . Still, she says she would never have gotten the position if it weren’t for one person who drastically changed her perception of leadership— Bob Chapman . In this episode, Laurie shares with raw transparency her personal development as a leader, from a competitive workaholic to a CEO who cares. Listen in to learn how to find the balance between valuing relationships and results and hear first-hand how to turn empty success into a fulfilled personal and professional life.
Wed, September 14, 2022
Coaching, Leadership, and the “Twin Thieves” with Steve Jones
Going beyond the boundaries of business is a great way to discover leadership lessons. In this episode, we’re joined by Steve Jones , a former high school football coach turned leadership consultant and author . Steve achieved some impressive accomplishments during his coaching years, like winning five consecutive state championships. Yet it wasn’t football strategy that brought his team success. It was the time spent off the field on leadership development. Steve says leadership is a skill, and just like any other, it has to be taught and practiced. Listen in to learn how to maximize the positive impact you can have on the world by looking for opportunities to serve and make a difference. Resources: Get your copy of The Twin Thieves
Wed, August 31, 2022
Uncommon Authenticity with Mark Minner
“You can overcome a lot of challenges and stressors if you are authentic with your team. They need to know who you are and where you're coming from.” Mark Minner , Senior Vice President of NFP , says the authenticity factor is a game changer when it comes to leadership. For him, it starts with genuine curiosity. Mark builds deep relationships with both employees and clients, allowing him to better understand their wants and needs. In this episode, Mark explains how focusing on others makes him a more effective leader and allows him to create positive change. As you listen, you’ll hear about the importance of honesty and learn how to find that sweet spot between chaotic change and complacency when growing an organization.
Wed, August 17, 2022
Who* Not What: From Research to Application, Bonus Episode with Sara Turner
We initially set out to bring you a three part series on ‘who, not what’ development—but we saw so much value in the episodes, we decided to record a bonus interview! In this episode, Director of Client Support at The Aperio , Sara Turner , joins us to share her behind the scenes perspective of the “who, not what” implementation. As you listen, you’ll hear what characteristics are required to see exceptional results when investing in your own development. You’ll also learn more about the significant data that proves the ‘who, not what’ principle makes people more effective leaders.
Wed, August 03, 2022
Who* Not What: From Research to Application, Part 3 with Domenic Saffioti
As a leader, are you aware of the impact you have on the people around you? Are you setting the right tone with your behavior? For the first 25 years of his professional life, Domenic Saffioti hadn’t given much thought to who he was as a person and what that meant for him at work. But when he was able to identify his knowledge gaps, his mindset profoundly changed. In this episode, Domenic shares his story of applying the “who, not what” principle to his leadership approach. As you listen, you’ll hear what inspired Domenic’s unwavering commitment to his own development and be reminded that change is always possible. You just have to want it.
Wed, July 20, 2022
Who* Not What: From Research to Application, Part 2 with Linda Coates
True leaders know you never arrive. Your leadership journey is ongoing and often requires change. That concept can elicit just as much pushback from someone at the bottom of the food chain to those right at the top. Linda Coates , Chief People Officer at Sun Cable , oversaw executive development of senior leaders at a global organization implementing the “who, not what” principle. In this episode, Linda shares the transformations she saw, but her story isn’t without its stumbling blocks. Few things of great value are ever easy. As you listen, you’ll learn what it means to lead with humanity and curiosity, remain open to change, and develop others to become leaders people want to follow.
Wed, July 06, 2022
Who* Not What: From Research to Application, Part 1 with Vanessa Kiley and John Ott
What kind of person makes for an effective leader? Vanessa Kiley , Co-Founder of the coaching firm Exceptional Leaders , accidentally stumbled upon that answer when sorting through the data from thousands of leadership assessments. In this episode, Vanessa shares the origin story of the “who, not what” principle. To help paint the picture, John Ott , the other Co-Founder of Exceptional Leaders , also joins the conversation to give his perspective as someone who’s been practicing the method for years with indisputable success. Listen to learn which two attributes are the most indicative of being a great leader. You might be surprised by what they are.
Wed, June 22, 2022
It’s the Trying that Transforms with Mark Miller
“When I walk into a room, I'm trying to figure out how I can add value. Sometimes it means being in charge and sometimes it means taking out the trash.” Mark Miller , VP of High Performance Leadership at Chick-fil-A and best-selling author of the book Smart Leadership , knows calling yourself a servant leader is one thing, but acting on those words is another. In this episode, Mark shares the benefits of being a leader who is others-focused and leads with generosity. Listen in to learn how you can adopt an “adding value” mentality and hear about what Mark calls “the leadership fountain of youth.”
Wed, June 08, 2022
Find Your Passion and Your People with Nikki Lewallen
Have you found work that gives you life? Or does your day-to-day feel like a grind? Nikki Lewallen , Chief Meaningful Work Officer at The PeopleForward Network , often uses a Japanese concept called Ikigai to help others find their career sweet spot and discover work that fuels them. Nikki believes that your career can - and should - benefit all other areas of your life. In this episode, you’ll hear how building a community of like-minded people will help you discover the unique contribution you bring to the world and allow you to achieve more, faster. Resources: The Dream Manager by Matthew Kelly Ikigai Follow The PeopleForward Network on LinkedIn Good to Great by Jim Collins Built to Last by Jim Collins
Wed, May 18, 2022
Becoming a Destination Employer with Jason Ells
Imagine creating an organization where your very best talent never wants to leave. Jason Ells , Senior Vice President at Custom Concrete , has his sights set on making his company just that. He wants his organization to be what he calls a destination employer. In this discussion, you'll get a chance to hear exactly how Jason and Custom Concrete are pursuing that dream. As you listen, you’ll learn how investing in your people and placing value on trust and vulnerability can make your business feel like the home your employees have been searching for.
Thu, May 05, 2022
Humans vs Resources with Laurie Shakur
Employees are so much more than just employees. Laurie Shakur , VP, Head of HR at Rakuten USA, has 30 years of experience in human resources and believes leaders have to see those on their teams as whole people if they want to create more effective workplaces. In this episode, she talks about the poor examples of leadership she’s witnessed, including a shocking lack of compassion when she needed it the most. The silver lining is Laurie learned from those experiences and now champions creating psychologically safe workplaces. Listen to learn more about developing team members and how that tactic can be just as enticing as other forms of compensation.
Thu, April 21, 2022
The Future Is Now with Jim Smith
While some CEOs might argue they can’t afford to spend time coaching people Jim Smith , CEO of Elford, Inc , says what you really can’t afford is not to. In this episode, Jim shares details about Elford’s leadership development programs and discusses why he makes it a priority to personally mentor employees. As you listen, you’ll gain a deeper understanding of the role leadership coaching plays in a business and be reminded as to why everyone should constantly push themselves to learn. Resources: The Servant by James C. Hunter In Search Of Excellence by Thomas J. Peters and Robert H. Waterman Jr. Built to Last by Jim Collins and Jerry I. Porras The Next Level <a class="notion-link-token notion-enable-hover" href= "https://www.amazon
Thu, April 07, 2022
Intuition Doesn’t Scale with Shane Jackson
Culture is nothing more than a concept unless you’re able to define and teach it. Years ago, Shane Jackson , President of Jackson Healthcare , was stumped by the question, “Can you tell us about your culture?” His inability to answer terrified him, leading him on a path of discovery to understand what culture means so he could influence and scale it. In this episode, Shane breaks down the benefits of being crystal clear about your organization's values. As you listen, you’ll learn how making those distinctions will help you lead, recruit, increase profit, and so much more.
Wed, March 23, 2022
Building a Championship Culture with Mark Edwards
When Mark Edwards was brought in as the head basketball coach at Washington University in St. Louis he had the unique opportunity to build a program from scratch, and he chose to go all in on culture. “Figure out what you want your program to accomplish, identify it in everything that you do, believe that you can do it, trust in the people that you're bringing in to do it, and never give up.” By following his own advice, Coach Edwards was able to lead Washington University to 34 consecutive winning seasons. This is the second of our two-part March Madness miniseries on Be Worth* Following, and in this episode you’ll learn what it means to establish the continuity of a program to the point where the culture defines every decision and makes success second nature.
Wed, March 09, 2022
Winning by Treating People Right with Gene Keady
“If you're honest with people, they can trust you.” Purdue University ’s all-time winningest coach Gene Keady never over-complicates his leadership philosophy. He sticks to the basics - be honest, treat people right, and work hard. This is the first of our two-part March Madness miniseries on Be Worth* Following, and in this episode Coach Keady shares why the work that’s done on the court is more than just about a game, it’s about life. As you listen, you’ll learn what traits inspire others to follow you, whether you’re in a boardroom or a locker room. Resources: Defensive Alertness plaque: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OfvHG1mV096_XaDSl8dEhHdc4gZCjBd_/view?usp=sharing
Wed, February 23, 2022
Systems Need A Soul and A Soul Needs Systems with Benj Miller and Chris White
“When we have soul, it elevates the systems and when we elevate the systems, we can elevate the soul. ” Benj Miller and Chris White are the Founders of System & Soul , a one-of-a-kind organizational operating framework that gives as much weight to people as it does processes. Their philosophy is that the two concepts feed one another. In this episode, Benj and Chris share how they discovered the importance of being intentional about the ‘soul’ of an organization. As you listen, you’ll learn how you can reach your full potential by bringing harmony to the inner-workings of your organization.
Wed, February 09, 2022
Burnout Not Required with Jason Cochran
We’ve taken huge strides to destigamtize mental health issues as a society, and yet business leaders still feel excessive pressure to pretend they are immune to such problems. Jason Cochran is a psychologist and the Co-founder of Dulead , a leadership development system. As a mental health professional and a leader in his own right, Jason knows how much your mental health can impact both your own work and the people you’re trying to lead. In this episode, Jason reminds us that the examples set by those in positions of power speak volumes, so prioritizing and being open about mental health has to start at the top. Along the way, you’ll learn how to provide your team the support they need to overcome challenges and how it will help you attract, grow, and retain the best talent out there.
Wed, January 19, 2022
It’s Not ALL About You with Steve Dils
Business is a team sport. Before Steve Dils made the switch to the business world, he had a decade-long career in the NFL. Now Managing Director and Principal at Avison Young , he believes leaders are responsible for their team's wins and losses. In this episode, Steve discusses how his leadership style is greatly influenced by his athletic career. Listen to hear the lessons he learned from his coaches, including the legendary Bill Walsh. Along the way, you’ll learn what it means to be a caretaker of culture and why catering to star team members is a slippery slope.
Wed, January 05, 2022
ROP (Return on People) with Kevin Gearheart
Investing in your employees is an investment in your company. Kevin Gearheart , the President of Rehab Medical , sees that prioritizing the development of people leads to invaluable returns. By giving his employees the tools they need to succeed, Kevin fosters loyalty to his company and ensures his organization is filled with highly skilled workers. In this episode, you’ll hear how providing people the opportunity to flourish ends up growing your business as well. Along the way you’ll also learn how putting in that effort goes hand-in-hand with being a preferred employer.
Wed, December 22, 2021
(Actually) Leading with Values with Andrew Larson, Gustave A. Larson Company
"Let the values guide you." Andrew Larson, CEO of Gustave A. Larson Company, an HVAC wholesaler, inherited both the company and their values from his father. Every day Andrew puts in the work to make sure each and every person in the organization lives out those core values. After all, it’s easy to follow once you know the direction to go. In this episode, listen to hear how clear-cut values keep everyone on the same page and how sticking to them has led Andrew and the company to see record profits as well. Resources Mentioned: - Andrew’s Father’s letter to the company - How to be A Great Boss: https://www.eosworldwide.com/how-to-be-a-great-boss-book - Leadership and Self Deception: https://arbingerinstitute.com/Landing/LeadershipAndSelfDeception.html - The Culture Index
Wed, December 08, 2021
Smart Isn't Enough with Rick Packer, Table Group
" There are two requirements for success in any organization. You have to be both smart and healthy ." That tidbit is from Rick Packer, a consultant with Table Group. He says the smart side is easy—it's what you learned in business school—but health goes much deeper. It's the undercurrents of an organization and a leader has to have the skills to build that health. Are you guilty of only putting emphasis on "smarts"? How much focus are you giving to the health of your team? Take a listen to this episode of Be Worth* Following for tips on how to do just that.
Wed, November 24, 2021
Lead the Person, Not the Employee with Claire David, CareVet
You get out what you put in. The same thing goes for those you lead. That's why Claire David , Chief People and Culture Officer at CareVet , says you should be intentional about creating personal, not just transactional, relationships with those you work with. Claire was fortunate enough to find herself working for someone who invested in her success without ever expecting anything in return. Knowing someone had faith in her led Claire to work harder and pushed her to be a better employee. Take a listen to this episode to learn about the importance of focusing on the success of others and how that can pay off in numerous unexpected ways.
Trailer · Tue, November 09, 2021
Introducing Be Worth* Following
What makes a leader worth* following? That little asterisk next to “worth” is the answer. It references the hidden truth that lives at the very core of effective (and ineffective) leadership. The Be Worth* Following Podcas t explores this surprising truth and how it plays out in the lives of real leaders. Be Worth* Following is an original show from the People Forward Network, and it invites you to rethink what you think about leadership. Join host Tim Spiker, author of The Only Leaders Worth* Following , as he talks to leaders, thinkers, and researchers about what actually drives leadership across the globe and over time.
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