Apocalyptic Education
Apocalyptic Education is a podcast series that meets listeners at the intersection of education, health, and societal transformation. Hosted by Tiffani Marie and Kenjus Watson, the podcast unearths the profound impacts of systemic antiblack violence on schools and health, while exploring radical alternatives to traditional schooling. Through engaging discussions with experts in the field, the series uncovers the biopsychosocial effects of antiblackness and champions Black ancestral ways of being.
S2 E7 · Wed, April 16, 2025
the legacy of little nate (part 1)
Potential Activation Warning- The following episode description contains references to suicide. Please take care while reading. We include helpful resources after the description In this initial installment of a special 2 part episode, Tiffani and Kenjus chop it up with Cassandra Edwards and Canada Taylor Parker to explore potent intersections between grief, mothering, activism, and the weight of trying to sustain life within an relentlessly anti-black world. As mothers, organizers, health practitioners and caretakers, both guests reflect on how grief is not a one time event across our communities. Instead, such disproportionate suffering is an ongoing, systemic process that Black women and femmes have often been forced to shoulder and navigate across generations. Mrs. Cassandra Edwards shares the painful story of the loss of her son, Lil Nate to suicide, which has profoundly shaped her organzing with other grieving mothers. Although Mrs. Cass accepts her role in her community, she speaks to the exhaustion and anger of being forced into activism, of bearing the responsibility of protecting and constantly having to grieve Black children in a world that constantly marks them for death, and of refusing to let systems define how Black mothers grieve. Canada Taylor Parker unpacks the ways intergenerational trauma, parenting, and grief justice intersect, and how she has worked to disrupt cycles of harm through her own intentional mothering and transformative community care. Our conversation explores the inherited burdens of ancestral pain as well as the the weight of mothering within structures that were never built for Black survival. Together, our guests confront offensive violence of systems, which are responsible for many of the conditions of our suffering, profanely attempting to dictate how Black people should grieve. They also challenge dominant narratives around suicide, making space for a deeper, historical analysis that links Black suicidality to the long arc of enslavement, colonization, racial violence, refusal, and generational memory. Listen as they hold space for an honest reckoning with loss, love, and the labor of breaking cycles, while also lifting up the legacies of those who came before us—those whose names and stories must be remembered. In this episode, we also honor and acknowledge our ancestor, James Baldwin. Thank you for your life and your love. Thank you for continuing to guide us. Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Guests: Canada Taylor Parker & Cassandra Edwards Music By: Redtone Records Production By: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding. Black and BIPOC Care Resources and Contacts <b
S2 E6 · Wed, April 02, 2025
nou tout se zanj o
In this episode, Tiffani and Kenjus chop it up with Dr. Amber McZeal—scholar, artist, and sacred activist—to explore the expansive terrain of decolonizing the psyche, ancestral memory, and the spiritual labor of refusing coloniality. From their first encounters with Amber’s transformative work to the unexpected synchronicities that led to this moment, the conversation unfolds as a meditation on relationality, refusal, and reverence. Amber traces her path from Lafayette, Louisiana, to the liberatory depths of sound healing, vibrational medicine, and depth psychology, illuminating how music, dreams, and ancestral guidance have shaped her scholarship and praxis. She breaks down the necessity of decolonial death rituals, the wisdom of pruning what no longer serves, and the role of sacred scholarship in expanding our psychic and spiritual capacities beyond colonial constraints. Together, they wrestle with the tension between holding onto inherited frameworks of harm and making space for new, liberatory ways of being. They confront the limits of racial essentialism, the traps of self-righteousness in liberation spaces, and the importance of humility in the work of decolonization. Amber reminds us that refusal is not just about negation—it is a generative, creative force that reconnects us to the wisdom of our ancestors and the possibility of new worlds. The episode closes with Amber offering a powerful song—a sacred invocation of resilience, rebirth, and the eternal cycle of creation. Listen as they delve into the necessity of spiritual and intellectual decolonization, the balance between grief and creation, and the radical work of expanding our consciousness in service of collective liberation. Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding. Black and BIPOC Care Resources and Contacts Call BlackLine Call 1 (800) 604-5841 *This resource is divested from the police BlackLine provides a space for peer support, counseling, witnessing and affirming then lived experiences to folxs who are most impacted by systematic oppression with an LGBTQ+ Black femme lens. Lines for Life Racial Equity Support Line Call (503)-575-3764 Available Monday through Friday from 10AM-7PM PST. This line is led by people with lived experience of racism and offers support for those who are experiencing the emotional impacts of racist violence and microaggressions. BEAM-Black Emotional and Mental Wellness Collective https://beam.community/wellness-tools/ The BEAM toolkit has outstanding resources to support your emotional wellness
S2 E5 · Wed, March 19, 2025
a buoy to hold on to
In this episode, Kenjus and Tiffani reflect on their journey co-writing the Apocalyptic Education paper in 2020, tracing their paths through grief, academia, and spiritual grounding. They revisit the origins of their collaboration, peeling back the layers of their initial skepticism, the tensions of intellectual competition, and the deep ancestral calling that ultimately brought them together. The conversation weaves through personal and communal grief, from Tiffani’s reflections on her Uncle Louis and the lessons he left behind, to Kenjus’ struggles with the academy as a space of extraction and violence. They explore the ways academia conditions Black scholars into cycles of harm and competition, while also recounting their defiant decision to pull their groundbreaking article from a traditional journal—choosing instead to honor its integrity and their commitments to Black life. Together, they confront the fear of death—both symbolic and literal—that undergirds our schooling systems, state violence, and resistance movements. Through storytelling, they highlight the tension between holding on and letting go, the necessity of slowness and grace in death work, and the ways that reverence for the afterlife informs how we imagine education beyond capture. Listen as they unpack what it means to write, to grieve, to teach, and to love in the face of ongoing collapse. This episode is an offering to those who are navigating grief, transition, and the spiritual labor of reimagining what it means to build and sustain beyond the ruins. In this episode, we also honor and acknowledge our ancestor, Uncle Louis. Thank you for your life and your love. Thank you for continuing to guide us. Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding. Black and BIPOC Care Resources and Contacts Call BlackLine Call 1 (800) 604-5841 *This resource is divested from the police BlackLine provides a space for peer support, counseling, witnessing and affirming then lived experiences to folxs who are most impacted by systematic oppression with an LGBTQ+ Black femme lens. Lines for Life Racial Equity Support Line Call (503)-575-3764 Available Monday through Friday from 10AM-7PM PST. This line is led by people with lived experience of racism and offers support for those who are experiencing the emotional impacts of racist violence and microaggressions. BEAM-Black Emotional and Mental Wellness Collective https://beam.community/wellness-tools/ The BEAM toolkit has outstanding resources to support your emotional wellness journey. Explore the BEAM websi
S2 E4 · Wed, March 05, 2025
terry and sheryll's children
In this episode, Tiffani and Kenjus chop it up with their mothers, Sheryll and Terry, who turn the tables to interview their children on the green couch. This special episode explores the impact of their wisdom on Tiffani and Kenjus' journeys as educators. Through critical questioning and listening, Sheryll and Terry elicit from their children a deep exploration of teaching as a calling, with Tiffani and Kenjus recounting early experiences that signaled their future roles. They reflect on the powerful moments when they felt compelled to challenge the narrative within their professional and personal lives, crediting their mothers with instilling the courage and grounding that guide them. Listen as Sheryll and Terry share thoughts about their children’s work in Apocalyptic Education and their own roles as mothers who have supported and nurtured not just their own kids but their communities as well. The dialogue covers the emotional and spiritual depths of their relationships, celebrating the legacy and ongoing guidance of black maternal love. In this episode, we also honor and acknowledge our ancestor, Uncle Ken. Thank you for your life and your love. Thank you for continuing to guide us. Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding. Black and BIPOC Care Resources and Contacts Call BlackLine Call 1 (800) 604-5841 *This resource is divested from the police BlackLine provides a space for peer support, counseling, witnessing and affirming then lived experiences to folxs who are most impacted by systematic oppression with an LGBTQ+ Black femme lens. Lines for Life Racial Equity Support Line Call (503)-575-3764 Available Monday through Friday from 10AM-7PM PST. This line is led by people with lived experience of racism and offers support for those who are experiencing the emotional impacts of racist violence and microaggressions. BEAM-Black Emotional and Mental Wellness Collective https://beam.community/wellness-tools/ The BEAM toolkit has outstanding resources to support your emotional wellness journey. Explore the BEAM website for grief resources and a local directory of Black wellness practitioners.
S2 E3 · Wed, February 19, 2025
the power of the leopard
In this episode, Tiffani and Kenjus chop it up with Kiazi Malonga, student/teacher of Congolese drumming and culture bearer. Kiazi walks us through the spiritual and communal powers of the Ngoma drum, as vessels of cultural preservation and healing. He shares his journey from the Bay Area, particularly East Palo Alto, to stages around the world. We explore the impact of his father’s legacy, the late Malonga Casquelourd, the craftsmanship of Congolese drums, the sacred art of drum-making, and how each drum carries the stories of our ancestors. As Tiffani and Kenjus engage with Kiazi, they explore the historical and ongoing power of resistance and meaning-making across the diaspora through drumming—how these cadences have been both suppressed and celebrated as tools of remembering and sacred connection. Listen as they unpack the layers of meaning each strike of the drum holds, and how these sounds build bridges back to lands and legacies (re)membered. Join us for a vulnerable discussion on the enduring power of the drum, its role in shaping identities, and its power to heal and unify communities. In this episode, we also honor and acknowledge our ancestor, Malonga Casquelourd. Thank you for your life and your love. Thank you for continuing to guide us. Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding. Black and BIPOC Care Resources and Contacts Call BlackLine Call 1 (800) 604-5841 *This resource is divested from the police BlackLine provides a space for peer support, counseling, witnessing and affirming then lived experiences to folxs who are most impacted by systematic oppression with an LGBTQ+ Black femme lens. Lines for Life Racial Equity Support Line Call (503)-575-3764 Available Monday through Friday from 10AM-7PM PST. This line is led by people with lived experience of racism and offers support for those who are experiencing the emotional impacts of racist violence and microaggressions. BEAM-Black Emotional and Mental Wellness Collective https://beam.community/wellness-tools/ The BEAM toolkit has outstanding resources to support your emotional wellness journey. Explore the BEAM website for grief resources and a local directory of Black wellness practitioners.
S2 E2 · Wed, February 05, 2025
of stomach pains and burning men
In this episode, Kenjus and Tiffani chop it up with Moses Omolade, an educator, spiritual practitioner, and advocate for wellness, to explore the intersections of body, spirit, and community. They dive into Moses’ journey from discovering Pilates as a spiritual practice to using hunger strikes as a radical tool of refusal against systems invested in our undoing. The conversation unpacks how the body holds memory, the power of spiritual detox as preparation for resistance, and the profound lessons Moses learned during his hunger strike for Oakland schools. Tiffani reflects on her own transformative relationship with movement and freedom, while Kenjus raises questions about the historical weight of embodied resistance and how ancestral wisdom informs his freedom dreaming. Listen as they break down the physical, emotional, and spiritual toll of using one’s body as a site of protest, while offering grounded wisdom on how community and spirituality sustain us in the face of state-sanctioned violence. In this episode, we also honor and acknowledge our ancestor, Hiram Jamison III. Thank you for your life and your love. Thank you for continuing to guide us. Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding. Black and BIPOC Care Resources and Contacts Call BlackLine Call 1 (800) 604-5841 *This resource is divested from the police BlackLine provides a space for peer support, counseling, witnessing and affirming then lived experiences to folxs who are most impacted by systematic oppression with an LGBTQ+ Black femme lens. Lines for Life Racial Equity Support Line Call (503)-575-3764 Available Monday through Friday from 10AM-7PM PST. This line is led by people with lived experience of racism and offers support for those who are experiencing the emotional impacts of racist violence and microaggressions. BEAM-Black Emotional and Mental Wellness Collective https://beam.community/wellness-tools/ The BEAM toolkit has outstanding resources to support your emotional wellness journey. Explore the BEAM website for grief resources and a local directory of Black wellness practitioners.
S2 E1 · Wed, January 22, 2025
maroon science and other runaway parrots
In the Season 2 premiere, Tiffani and Kenjus chop it up about freedom, captivity, and Blackness through the lens of two stories about parrots that shift their understanding of autonomy, consent, and belonging. They unpack the layers of maroon science and how it illuminates African Indigenous paths of intergenerational love, navigation, and self-determination. The hosts reflect on rites of passage and other ceremonies, discussing how these sacred practices guide transitions and hold the potential to reshape our relationships with life, death, and community. They consider the tension between existing as a “free being” when others may perceive you as “having escaped," questioning how these narratives—and even these binaries—can sometimes shape Black existence. Through personal stories and reflections, Tiffani Marie and Kenjus explore the art of release: letting go of preconceived notions and embracing the rituals that sustain us. As the opening for the second season of Apocalyptic Education podcast, this episode features themes such as reflection, marronage, and invoking spirit for both daily maintenance and more radical rituals. Tiffani Marie and Kenjus will circle around to these throughout the rest of the season in order to encourage us to honor our ceremonies, find our own flight paths, and create life-giving spaces beyond the reach of systems that seek to capture us. In this episode, we also hear from and acknowledge our ancestor, Jaquez Donaldson. Thank you for your life and your love. We miss you deeply. Thank you for continuing to guide us. Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures Note: All episodes this season explore themes of death, transition, and capture, with an emphasis on spiritual and ancestral grounding. Black and BIPOC Care Resources and Contacts Call BlackLine Call 1 (800) 604-5841 *This resource is divested from the police BlackLine provides a space for peer support, counseling, witnessing and affirming then lived experiences to folxs who are most impacted by systematic oppression with an LGBTQ+ Black femme lens. Lines for Life Racial Equity Support Line Call (503)-575-3764 Available Monday through Friday from 10AM-7PM PST. This line is led by people with lived experience of racism and offers support for those who are experiencing the emotional impacts of racist violence and microaggressions. BEAM-Black Emotional and Mental Wellness Collective https://beam.community/wellness-tools/ The BEAM toolkit has outstanding resources to support your emotional wellness journey. Explore the BEAM website for grief resources and a local directory of Black wellness practitioners.
S1 E8 · Thu, April 25, 2024
(cult)ure and other thangs apocalyptic
In this episode, Tiffani and Kenjus chop it up among themselves for their Season 1 recap. They explore the balance of calm amid chaos in their attempts to achieve homeostasis during the apocalypse. They discuss rites of passage, initiation, and ceremony as essential components of this balance. Tiffani and Kenjus also discuss the art of letting go of control. A vignette about a puppet show gone awry shows that the best moments often happen when we stop trying to control everything. The hosts use this grounding as a springboard to explore the stigma surrounding cults, challenging the negative connotations and questioning when a tight-knit group becomes something society fears. They attempt to identify the culture within cults. The episode wraps up with a prayer for surrender. Tiffani and Kenjus encourage listeners to embrace change and find the courage to let parts of themselves die, making room for the afterlife, or the afterbirth, of the apocalypse. Note: This episode explores controversial topics like cults and mass suicide. Tiffani and Kenjus do not intend to make light of or advocate for these tragic realities. ________ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
S1 E7 · Thu, April 11, 2024
the kids are alright (part 2)
In Part 2 of The Kids Are Alright episode, we chop it up with about five of Tiffani's former students, spanning her last 20 years of teaching. The group includes a "cool and collective" entrepreneur planning to finish college soon, a program director deeply involved in community work and motivational speaking, a young college student contemplating joining the Armed Forces, a revolutionary artist and event organizer, and a charismatic young person who emphasizes their intellect and the importance of being "lit". As the conversation unfolds, the topic of schools - whether to keep them or leave them behind - becomes a central theme. The young people share their nuanced views, reflecting a mix of support, skepticism, and outright disillusionment with the American schooling system. Their stories illuminate the complexities of navigating school systems that often feel disconnected from their personal and community needs. Alongside their varied experiences, a common thread emerges: a critique of the schooling system's shortcomings and a call for a more inclusive, supportive, and relevant approach to learning that truly meets the needs of all young people. Our convo captures a range of emotions and critical ideas on the role of schools in shaping the future of young folks and, by extension, our society. San Jose State University Professor Marcos Pizarro, Ph.D., offers our final thoughts. _________ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
S1 E6 · Thu, March 28, 2024
the kids are alright (part 1)
In this episode, we chop it up with about five of Tiffani's former students, spanning her last 20 years of teaching. The group includes a "cool and collective" entrepreneur planning to finish college soon, a program director deeply involved in community work and motivational speaking, a young college student contemplating joining the Armed Forces, a revolutionary artist and event organizer, and a charismatic young person who emphasizes their intellect and the importance of being "lit". As the conversation unfolds, the topic of schools - whether to keep them or leave them behind - becomes a central theme. The young people share their nuanced views, reflecting a mix of support, skepticism, and outright disillusionment with the American schooling system. Their stories illuminate the complexities of navigating school systems that often feel disconnected from their personal and community needs. Alongside their varied experiences, a common thread emerges: a critique of the schooling system's shortcomings and a call for a more inclusive, supportive, and relevant approach to learning that truly meets the needs of all young people. Our convo captures a range of emotions and critical ideas on the role of schools in shaping the future of young folks and, by extension, our society. University of Michigan Professor Sharim Hannegan-Martinez, Ph.D., offers our final thoughts. _______ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
S1 E5 · Fri, March 15, 2024
the language we cry in
In this episode, we chop it up with Tinisch Hollins, a Black San Franciscan activist and critical advocate for the rights of crime survivors, and Apryl Joe, a citizen of the Navajo Nation dedicated to the reclamation of her people's sovereignty. Together, they discuss reparations & Indigenous reclamation, while illuminating the interconnected historical and ongoing fight against settler colonial violence faced by Black and Native communities. Through their conversation, they explore themes of solidarity, racial tension, healing, and the collective journey towards transcending the deep-seated confines of white supremacy. _______ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
S1 E4 · Wed, February 28, 2024
this coat used to be black
In this episode, we chop it up with the revolutionary preacha and community leader, Pastor Michael McBride. He shares his unique experiences of the deep impacts of systemic violence, including his personal encounters with police brutality. The discussion delves into the intricate relationship between grief and activism, particularly through Pastor Mike's involvement with 'Live Free', a movement addressing mass incarceration, voter suppression, police violence, and other systemic violences. He reflects on his journey, emphasizing the pivotal role of the Ferguson protests in reshaping his life and ministry. These experiences not only enhanced his understanding of social injustices but also transformed his church into a sanctuary for social change. On a more personal note, Pastor Mike discusses the challenges of balancing his demanding role in activism with his family life. He shares a deep desire for a world where children can grow free from the shadows of societal ills, expressing his aspirations for his daughters to lead lives filled with joy and security, far removed from the adversities he faces. Throughout the episode, Pastor Mike underscores the significance of healing in mitigating the emotional toll of activism. His narrative, interwoven with vulnerability, contradiction, and sorrowful humor, offers a deep perspective on the complex interplay between grief and activism, the transformative power of faith, and the role of community leadership in social transformation. San Jose State University Professor Rebecca Burciaga, Ph.D., offers our final thoughts. _______ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
S1 E3 · Thu, February 15, 2024
i am not coyolxauhqui - i am xihuicoyotl - turquoise fire
In this episode, we chop it up with Drs. Allyson Tintiangco-Cubales and Christine Vega, both mothers and critical professors. We explore Coyolxauhqui and dismemberment, and its relationship to birthing trauma, particularly in the high-pressure pursuit of tenure in academia. Allyson opens up about her personal journey through infertility, sharing the profound lessons learned and emphasizing the significance of rest in birthing endless possibilities. Christine adds her insights on the empowering role of Chicana Mother Work, underlining the critical interdependence between self-care and collective resilience. Together, they unpack "mothering" as a revolutionary educational philosophy. They advocate for an authentic approach to teaching, emphasizing the need for comprehensive care for students, while challenging the constraints of schooling. This episode is a deep exploration of how mothering, in all its facets, can reshape and redefine the landscape of education. California State University (Dominguez Hills) Professor Stephanie Cariaga, Ph.D., offers our final thoughts. _______ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
S1 E2 · Wed, January 31, 2024
dancing to kendrick lamar while the earth shook
In this episode, we chop it up with Kiki Jordan, a renowned midwife based in California. Kiki lends her expertise to our discussion on the radical aspects of home birthing, set against the formidable backdrop of the medical-industrial complex. We explore how Black Autonomous Birthing Communities (BABCs) provide valuable insights for rethinking our transition from schooling to holistic education. Kiki shares wisdom from her birthing experiences and her attempts to launch a community-grounded Wellness Center, guiding us in reimagining the concept of school abolition and its potential for transformative educational practices. University of Illinois at Chicago Professor David Stovall, Ph.D., offers our final thoughts. _______ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Music By: Redtone Records Production by: Jesse Strauss, Paxtone Records Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
S1 E1 · Wed, January 17, 2024
Apocalyptic Education - The Audiobook
Apocalyptic Education is a transformative journey, presented by Tiffani Marie and Kenjus Watson, two critical Black educators. This audiobook invites listeners to participate in a funeral for schooling, marking the end of a violent regime and the beginning of remembered futures. Through their personal narratives and research, Marie and Watson explore the deep-rooted traumas inflicted by American schooling systems on Black folk. Watson's exploration of the psychological impacts on young Black men through biomarkers of health reveals the hidden costs of their academic pursuits. In contrast, Marie's studies uncover pedagogical practices that could shield Black children from the ravages of systemic racism, challenging the status quo of schooling. This audiobook is a call to dismantle and rebuild. Drawing inspiration from influential figures and the tradition of Black church call-and-response sensibilities, Marie and Watson advocate for Apocalyptic Education (AE) – a radical reimagining of learning rooted in African ancestral wisdom. This concept transcends traditional pedagogy, envisioning an education that truly serves and uplifts Black communities. Apocalyptic Education is a space for mourning, reflection, and, most importantly, sacred memory. It encourages educators, students, and listeners from all walks of life to acknowledge the stench of decay emanating from the current schooling system and to embrace a new educational paradigm. Join Marie and Watson in this wake for schooling and be part of the movement towards a future where education is synonymous with well-being and sustainability. _______ Stay connected: www.apocalypticeducation.org Hosts: Tiffani Marie & Kenjus Watson Production by: Redtone Records & 25th Street Recording Sponsored By: The Institute for Regenerative Futures
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