A podcast feed of the first podcasts started by Dave Winer in the summer of 2004.
Wed, October 02, 2024
This episode was recorded on October 1, 2004 . Today's Trade Secrets is about everything of importance to the world today. The only thing we missed is Jon Stewart's outburst about the President's "group of folks" line. Group of folks? Group of folks?, Stewart raged. A group of folks is what you run into at the Olive Garden. The President was referring to Osama bin Laden and the group of worldwide terrorist... folks. Okay. At no extra cost, a few little soliloquys, nothing earth shaking, just little ones. And oh yea. Mt St Helens. PS: Debate transcript . 52 minute podcast .
Wed, October 02, 2024
This episode was recorded on September 28, 2004 . From the show notes, preserved on archive.org , written by Adam: "I've learned over the past weeks to always have the audio recording setup ready when Dave and I chat. We always talk voip and have been trying different setups and applications. But inadvertantly, one of will say "we should be recording this" and I flip the switch. This morning Dave was up early and we recorded a podcast, where we talked about 'leakage', played some prince and finally got the sip-phone stuff working" Dave's notes on scripting.com : "In it Adam and I discuss the merits of Mac vs Windows. Now of course I'm getting (friendly) email from people suggesting that I get a Mac. I'll make a deal. If John Kerry wins I'll get a Mac." 36 minute podcast .
Wed, October 02, 2024
This episode was recorded on September 28, 2004 . "An audio blog post about the Bloglines API, the commons, fair compensation for centralized services, what's not fair." 14 minute podcast .
Mon, September 30, 2024
This episode was released on September 28, 2004 (recorded earlier). "Today's Morning Coffee Notes explains the open source release of Frontier. Jeff Sandquist previewed the audio and said he had never understood what Frontier was before. It's good that this event which is probably one of the largest releases of open source code ever, may mean that more people appreciate this interesting and unique piece of software. Or it may be a time capsule, a message in a bottle, or a bridge to the future, and that would be fine too. One thing it's not is an attempt to boil the ocean, or a threat to your favorite scripting language, Web content system or HTTP server. Just trying to preserve a life's work of programming, so it doesn't end up lost or forgotten. Peace brother." The Scripting News archive for that day. 32 minute podcast .
Sun, September 29, 2024
This episode was recorded on September 27, 2004. "I was interviewed today by a reporter on Yahoo's efforts in RSS. I gave them a pretty negative review. I didn't want to be misunderstood, so I did an audio recording of what I said to the reporter, so you can get an idea of the thinking behind the soundbites that may be in the news article." The Scripting News archive for that day. 14 minute podcast .
Mon, September 16, 2024
Here are the original shownotes from 9/16/2004. And the Scripting News archive for that day. 66 minute podcast .
Fri, September 13, 2024
This podcast originally aired on September 13, 2004 . A lot of technical information about email as an API. In 2024 I am surprised at how much I knew about email back then! :-) Not exactly sure where I recorded this, sounds like I was in the car, but by the end of the day I was at my destination, Seattle. These were the good days, a new medium in its early stages of booting up, after years of trying to get it to go. In the next few days, if I recall correctly, it'll really start going. You can subscribe to the podcast feed here. 4 minute podcast.
Sat, September 07, 2024
This podcast originally aired on September 5, 2004 . Driving from Banff to Kelowna. A bunch of pictures on the davetravel site. 27 minute podcast .
Mon, September 02, 2024
This podcast first aired on September 2, 2004 . My studio is my Lexus RS-300. Good acoustics. Recorded after listening to Adam's Daily Source Code. "It seems to work," said your humble podcaster. Toward the end I really sound like I'm high, but I wasn't. I was just having a blast doing something new that was working. 22 minute podcast .
Mon, September 02, 2024
This podcast first aired on September 1, 2004 . I was driving on the Trans-Canada Highway in Saskatchewan, on a drive from NYC (I think) to Seattle, where I'd rent an apartment and stay through the election in November. If I recall correctly. π Lots of random bits with very little premeditation. 43 minute podcast .
Thu, August 15, 2024
This podcast came from NYC. Back from a long hiatus, I had just listened to Adam Curry's new Daily Source Code, and wanted to say hey, and talk about what he's doing and how it's cool to have a VJ creating in this new medium that still didn't have a name. Then we listened to an excerpt from Sandy by Bruce Springsteen. I had been in San Francisco and had lunch with a Sun exec named Jonathan Schwartz , who used to be a DJ in NYC at WNEW-FM . I do an impression of the DJ which I demonstrate. August of 2004 apparently is before Apple starting encouraging developers to work on its platforms, again, after a long hiatus. The iPhone was still three years away in 2004. Then it was on to Steve Gillmor's latest episode, not impressed with his guests, and I say so! How's that for candor. But there are good reasons for wanting to work with users, but it should be at a different level. What I talk about, the web as a strong platform, it's still missing, a way for software communities to boot up around open formats and protocols. The barrier to entry keeps going up. And of course none of the platform companies want competition from individuals, but it is technically possible. Anyway as often is the case, I continue rambling long after the point has been made. π But then we get to the iPod, what kind of feed aggregator can we put on the iPod. I hoped there was a way to view an iPod as a file system that could be plugged into the Mac. No that was not to be. Instead we got iTunes. Still to this day, the connection between their mobile devices and desktops are pretty hard to manage, at least I find it so. Too much breakage, every time they do a release it seems they break me as a user. Then I go on to talk about how the podcast aggregator on an iPod would work. This was all new! I talk about what it would be like to have NPR programs, and how great it will be to listen to the shows I want to listen to and only those. And then BBC and PRX content, which would both be part of the early bootstrap (PRX came out of Berkman too). The next program comes from the road in Saskatchewan, on Sept 1, and the pace picks up, with eight episodes in Sept. The archive for Scripting News in August 2004. 30 minute podcast .
Sat, July 27, 2024
"Second audio interview with Don Means, senior political advisor at Meetup.Com . Again my co-hort is Natasha from Pacific Views." The blog page for 7/27/2004.
Sat, July 27, 2024
"Audio interview with Minnesota candidate for the House, Patty Wetterling . I did the interview with Natasha Celine of Pacific Views. We're in the Democratic News Service; they are 'dedicated to getting great stories for the bloggers.'" The blog page for 7/27/2004.
Fri, July 26, 2024
"Today's audio blog post includes an interview with Matt Gross, formerly of Dean For America, and now chief blogger for North Carolina Senate candidate Erskine Bowles." The blog page for 7/26/2004.
Fri, July 26, 2024
"Today's audio blog post, recorded while traveling from the Westin hotel in Copley Plaza to Fleet Center. Interviews with people along the way. Some very rough audio at the beginning with one quite large silent spot, but some really good stuff I think. Designed to go with the pictures, above." The blog page for 7/25/2004.
Fri, July 26, 2024
"Today's audio blog post, about developing the Convention Bloggers software, pictures from New Mexico and microphones." The podcast is 18 minutes long. The blog page for 7/24/2004.
Mon, July 22, 2024
Coming to you from New York on July 22, 2004. I have the sniffles in this audio blog post. Talking about what I'll do at the DNC. The small picture. I actually use that term, thought I came up with that much later . My goal is to give you an idea of what it's like to be there. The DNC is next week, in Boston. They're "importing bloggers" -- they really did roll out the red carpet for us. We had a site called Convention Bloggers -- it was a feed reader, clearly done with Frontier, of blogs run by people who were at the convention. I was wondering if they'd do it again in 2008. They didn't, but I did get to go thanks to help from Nicco Mele . Will everyone at the DNC have a blog in four years? Yes, in a sense -- with Twitter, which did not exist in 2004 but did in 2008. Re the cost of the Iraq war ? Scripting News blog for 7/22/2004 .
Tue, July 16, 2024
My first on-the-road podcast, July 16, 2004. As the name implies, I'm driving on Interstate 25 in New Mexico between Truth or Consequences and Socorro . Two days since downloading email. Different times. Wifi is scarce as are cellphone signals in 2004. 2004 nerd heaven: iPod, Nikon Coolpix camera, laptop, USB connection to camera, power adapter that hooks into cigarette lighter (cars used to have them). Remember it's 2004, long before ubiquitous connectivity. But I still don't have cell coverage where I live, in 2024, it's not everywhere yet. A week later I'll be at the DNC in Boston. Didn't get my email in Socorro. Apparently no net connectivity to be found. The old days. I talk about taking pictures, but I can't find them. They should be on davetravel.scripting.com , which was previously hosted at Berkman, but I moved it to my server when I left. The Scripting News archive page for July 16, 2004.
Mon, July 15, 2024
This is the second time I pushed out an audio from my meditation teacher from the 1990s, Jeru Kabbal. I've done this meditation many times over the years. Just sit on a pillow on the floor, close your eyes and breathe. If you go with it, before long you're in another space, inside yourself. One that you might not even know is there. A link to the shownotes for the previous meditation tape. Here's the post that went with this episode. On that same day I explained my travel plan through the rest of the summer: El Paso, Juarez, Las Cruces, Albuqurque, Santa Fe, Taos, NY, then Boston for the DNC. I would end up spending the summer and fall in Seattle. So now we've got a sense of geography. I wasn't even sure I was in NY for the most recent episodes. Probably staying with my parents in Queens.
Sun, July 14, 2024
I was interviewed by a reporter from the Chicago Tribune with questions about RSS. What is RSS? Automated web surfing. Is RSS ready for civillians? I didn't know then but the answer is no. Until it's very easy to subscribe to a feed you'll have to do a lot of difficult work to subscribe to a feed. I didn't know it at the time, but two years later a product called Twitter would be introduced that solves the subscription problem and that event would put a cap on the growth of RSS. If you could tell people one thing about RSS? It's not email, it's news. You don't read every story in every issue of the newspaper. However, esp at the time, there was a presumption that you wanted to read every email. I favored a timeline approach which would be what Twitter did a couple of years later. I'm very very longwinded! In the shownotes it says that it begins with two outtakes. I remember that feeling from twenty years ago. It's not something my current software would let me do. I was using Polderbits, today I use Apple's voice memo app. A link to the blog page for July 14, 2004.
Sat, July 13, 2024
Begins with ice coffee from Dunkin Donuts. W3C-developed standards aren't better. I wanted to say that I was pleased with Brendan Eich's interview with Steve Gillmor. This podcast unlike the previous one sounds like stuff I still support, even applaud. I talk about how I found something on the Netsape site during the development of RSS saying they don't want to be part of a standards process, they just want to make software. That's where I come from too. People who gather around standards often/usually aren't there to make software. So it's no surprise that the standards don't deploy well in actual software. Skip ahead to 10 minute mark if you want to hear this stuff. At the very end I say I look forward to what's coming in HTML. Well it didn't imho turn out to be what I was hoping for, which I think IIRC was SVG. No doubt it works, but the graphic OS I wanted has never been created on top of SVG as far as I know. I mention the marquee element in this episode and I was curious to see if it still works, so I wrote a test app which you can try too. It does still work in 2024. I hope it works forever. That's how the web should work. Much later I'll write about this in Rules for standards-makers .
Fri, July 12, 2024
These are my notes as I listen to the July 12, 2004 podcast 20 years later. Oddpost bought by Yahoo. I talk about "dynamic html apps" which today we'd call web apps, I guess. Oddpost was kind of a miracle, done by the team that did HalfBrain, a browser-based spreadsheet. Apparently Oddpost came out before GMail, which if I recall correctly came out around that time, maybe May 2004? I remember I was in St Augustine when it came out. I still use that GMail account all the time for basically everything. RSS 2.0 namespaces aren't evolving as I hoped they would, but Movable Type did a great job in helping the format coalesce, thanking them for that. Daniel Berlinger wants to know why he should vote for Kerry. I never get around to saying why he should vote for Kerry. I didn't handle this well. I think we had the same animosity that doesn't serve us, not even talking to people who support the other candidate. As in the previous podcast, I'm not sure I like what I'm saying here. But I agree with 2004 Dave's decision this time not to vote for Bush and be an enthusiastic supporter of the Democrat. I wonder if my podcasts of 2024 sound any different. Iraq was the big issue in 2004. We started an unprovoked war. Kind of like what Russia is doing in Ukraine, today, btw. Again, it's interesting to listen to myself speaking in words that sound like me, saying things today's me thinks are naive. And in fact almost by definition they are. The world we live in today didn't exist in 2004. I wish I knew where I was on this day, I can hear cars driving by. But I'm sure I'm not driving. Is it NY? No clue. The Scripting News archive for the day. PS: It is in NYC! Right at the end of the podcast. It was 9:02AM. Pretty close to the current time today 20 years later.
Thu, July 11, 2024
From the original blog post: "Talking with Steve Gillmor this afternoon, he got on my case, again. Where are your audio blog posts, he wanted to know. I said there was a technical glitch, but I think I've solved it. So here's a new audio blog post, thanks to Steve for the motivation." In this podcast, from July 11, 2004, I get back on track. I was driving, at the beginning saying it was "live from NY." I don't know where I was coming from or going to, and I don't want to take that too literally but it sounds like I was in NY. Speaking very softly, very unusual. I talk like the world is falling apart, this was shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which are now pretty faded out, but we hadn't been through Trump 1 yet, or Covid, or Hillary's emails, all that crazy shit. Obama was still just a state senator from Illinois I think? I didn't like Michael Moore, said he lies -- I bet I was right about that but I don't remember. These days I think of Michael Moore as a hero, but even now he says and does things I question, so it's good to remember. I made it very clear up front and in the end that Steve Gillmor had been nagging me to do another audio blog post. It's in the description of the podcast on my blog. So thanks to Steve for that. I said something about postponing the election? I have no recollection of that, and spoiler -- the election was not postponed unless I'm dreaming this whole thing. According to Foreign Policy , Bush did consider postponing the election, fearing terrorist attack. I'm so glad I listened to this one. I have a lot of questions about what is going on. At the end it comes out that I have left Boston. And at the beginning I say I'm in NY. But it sounds like I'm in a car. A link to the Scripting News page for this day in 2004.
Wed, July 10, 2024
This podcast came out 20 years ago today. I was just beginning to figure out how this new medium worked, and rather than record my own thoughts, as with the previous two episodes, I published audio from another source. This one was from my meditation teacher, Jeru Kabbal. Starting with the next episode, tomorrow -- we'll have an original audio blog post. Here's the description from 2004: "I started an MP3 audio archive for my teacher, Jeru Kabbal. I started with a scan of a tape called Sunrise of the Soul, one of the Quantum Light Breath tapes. It's truly an amazing process, if you clear a little over an hour, you can have an incredible experience that may stay with you for years. It's great stuff. "Remember today is a new day, a day that has never happened before and will never happen again." Yeah it sounds dorky, but it's true, and it reaches inside, and man, it gets me every time. iPod-compatible, of course. With much love, Dave." A link to the Scripting News page for this day in 2004. PS: I've been making mistakes in 2024 on almost every episode. This time I got the title wrong, it's Sunrise of the Soul. Rather than change it, and take a chance of the episode showing up twice in some podcast clients, I'm just leaving it as-is. Trying to get a feel for how most of the clients work. Do they refresh posts, if the descriptions change (as this one is)? I don't know.
Thu, June 20, 2024
I recorded Bill Clinton on 60 Minutes, audio only, as broadcast on WBZ-AM Boston. Commercials included. The next podcast will go out on July 10, because that's when it was posted in 2004. We've finally caught up. If you want to skip ahead, you can, the full archive is at morningcoffeenotes.com .
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