The Defender
Welcome to the Defender, Wisconsin's environmental podcast, where we talk about the most pressing environmental issues facing Wisconsin and how you can plug in to defend our air, water, land and climate. The Defender is hosted by former radio and TV journalist Amy Barrilleaux. She'll help cut through the jargon and all the misinformation that’s out there and have real conversations about how to build a healthy, sustainable future. Every week, Amy talks with scientists, advocates, farmers, experts, and just everyday people who are working right here in Wisconsin to make a difference to protect this place we call ho...
Mon, March 24, 2025
Wisconsin’s bees are acting weird. Here’s why.
Imagine feeling not quite yourself. You don’t feel like taking care of your kids. You can’t find your way to work anymore, don’t want to hang out with anybody. It would be awful. But it’s happening to bees all around us. Turns out a pesticide used on virtually all of our corn and soybeans, is harming our pollinators at very low levels of exposure in ways that are rarely studied. On this episode, hear from a University of Wisconsin Madison researcher who’s been looking at the lives of bees and the impacts of a neurotoxin we put on our food. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Dr. Hames Crall, Assistant Professor of Entomology, University of Wisconsin Resources for You: Episode: Neurotoxins on our Plates Episode: Wisconsin's Vanishing Bee Episode: No Mow May, Does it Work? Understanding the Impact of Neonicotonoid Pesticides Wisconsin Neonic Forum Video Series
Mon, March 17, 2025
From Grain to Glass: Why you should be drinking beer brewed with Kernza® grain
What if I told you there was a grain that doesn’t have to be replanted every spring, that has roots growing 10-feet deep, taking in carbon and holding it deep in the soil, that helps prevent soil erosion and excess fertilizer from washing into our lakes--AND it makes a tasty beer. In this episode, a look at the work behind an experimental batch of Kernza® beer at Karben4 Brewing in Madison that has the farming research world taking notice. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Joe Walts, Karben4 Brewing Resources for You: Taste the Change: Wisconsin Kenrnza® Natural Climate Solutions: A path forward for Wisconsin's agricultural sector Three cheers for climate beer! Kernza® Crunch: The race to develop the world's first perennial grain crop
Mon, March 10, 2025
How to defend climate progress in WI and beyond
“Action is the antidote to despair.” On this episode we look at how to move forward on climate when it feels like our federal government is determined to push us backward. Learn about actions you can take right now, right here in Wisconsin to defend progress. And hear from climate advocate and Wisconsin farmer Chelsea Chandler on climate strategy in the age of "drill baby drill." Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Chelsea Chandler Resources for you: Clean Wisconsin Take Action Analysis: Solar farms produce 100 times more energy per acrea than corn ethanol Threats to federal funding for pollution cleanup, clean energy initiatives spark anger in Wisconsin communities PSC approves most powerful solar project in Wisconsin history
Mon, March 03, 2025
Our Salty Waters: Are you using too much road salt?
In the wintertime, Wisconsin is one salty place. It’s all over our cars – in our cars – tracked into buildings, all over our shoes and boots. It’s a mess. Thankfully salt season is almost over, but it’s never over for our lakes or even our drinking water wells. Find out what happens to all that salt when winter is over, and hear from an advocate who's working to teach all of us out to be salt wise. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Allison Madison, WI Salt Wise More Resources for You: WI Salt Wise website
Mon, February 24, 2025
Trump’s Threat to Safe Water (and how WI can fight back)
We are about to say goodbye to some basic water protections as the Trump Administration looks to undo decades of science-based work focused on keeping toxic chemicals out of our water supplies. Right now on the Defender, Amy talks with Clean Wisconsin attorney Evan Feinauer about how bedrock protections like the Clean Water Act could be at risk as the new administration targets regulations, research, and expert staff at the EPA. Find out what’s at stake and how Wisconsin can fight back. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Evan Feinauer Resources for You: Under the Lens: What we know about PFAS in Wisconsin's Water Nitrate pollution's impact on Wisconsn's health and economy Neonicotinoid pesticides and their impact More episodes with Evan: When Judges Rule the Environment: How bad are the new Supreme Court rulings? What Trump 2.0 means for our environment
Mon, February 17, 2025
Leaded Skies: A small town's fight against leaded aviation fuel
Lead is a neurotoxin, and when you breathe it in, it gets into your bloodstream and can cause all kinds of health problems, including brain damage. It’s no wonder leaded gasoline was banned in the US nearly 30 years ago. But that ban didn’t cover small aircraft fuel. Turns out, those small airplanes buzzing around recreational airports across the state and country still use leaded gas. The planes are spreading tiny lead particles over people’s backyards, water wells, playgrounds, soccer fields and waterways just about every time they fly. It this episode, Amy talks with a small town Wisconsin lawmaker who is leading her community’s charge to get the lead out of our air. And she’s got an eye-opening study that shows how our drinking water could be at risk too. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Cynthia Richson, Town of Middleton, Wis., town board chair Resources for you: EPA Lead Endangerment Finding
Mon, February 10, 2025
Opening the door to joy: One woman’s journey to get fossil fuels out of her home
If you care about the environment, protecting this planet, our home, our livable climate, chances are you’re a little stressed out right now. But what if I told you that environmental action can open the door… to joy. Heat from a Wisconsin woman who started on a journey a few years ago to get fossil fuels out of her home. No furnace, no gas stove, no gas hot water heater. She takes us on a tour of her house and shares her perspective on activism and the joy she finds in taking personal responsibility for our impact in this world. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Susan Millar Resources for You: How to Defend the Inflation Reducation Act The biggest investment to fight climate change in U.S. history is under attack. Find out how you can protect incentives that are helping Wisconsinites save energy and money.
Thu, February 06, 2025
Introducing the Defender
True to its name, this podcast, State of Change is about to undergo some big changes. The first – a new name. Going forward, this will be the Defender podcast. If that name sounds familiar, it’s because it’s the same name as Clean Wisconsin’s quarterly newspaper, the longest-running environmental advocacy publication in Wisconsin, the Defender . And right now, that advocacy, that word “Defender” is so important. Environmentalism needs a voice, now more than ever. We’re also going to be rolling out new episodes weekly. So every Monday check your favorite podcast streaming service or your inbox to listen to the latest Defender episode. Every week, Amy will with scientists, advocates, farmers, experts, and just everyday people who are working right here in Wisconsin to make a difference to protect this place we call home. And learn how you can use your voice to be part of defending what we all care about.
Mon, December 09, 2024
How to Eat for the Environment
It’s food season, also known as the holidays! And what you choose to put on your plate actually has an impact on the world around you. Agriculture is not only big business across the Midwest, it is also a major source of water pollution in Wisconsin and a major and growing source greenhouse gas emissions. But how do you make it better? In this episode, Amy talks with Kathryn (Kata) Young, Natural Climate Solutions Manager with Clean Wisconsin, about the places where eating and our environment connect. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Kathryn (Kata) Young, Clean Wisconsin
Sun, November 10, 2024
What Trump 2.0 means for our environment
What does a new, better-prepared Trump Administration mean for the water we drink, the air we breathe, the safety of our food, our climate? We know a long list of federal environmental protections and programs will be rolled back or dismantled during the next presidential administration. We’re talking about erasing new standards for toxic PFAS chemicals in our drinking water, pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement, diminishing wetland protections, pulling funding to replace lead pipes, undermining the EPA’s ability to regulate carbon, axing programs that help people weatherize their homes, getting rid of support for manufacturing of batteries and solar panels, and of course, lots more drilling and fracking. If you think it feels overwhelming, you’re not wrong. There are also plans to target the unbiased science and research that happens at our federal agencies, replacing civil servants with political appointees. So now that I’ve got you thoroughly angry, sad, scared, name the emotion, we’re going to dig into some of these issues and look at the road ahead to fight back. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guests: Clean Wisconsin Attorneys Evan Feinauer and Brett Korte
Sun, October 13, 2024
Neurotoxins On Our Plates
For the past 25 years, we've been putting neurotoxins on our food. Neonicotinoids are potent chemicals that attack the central nervous systems of insects. Not only are they widely used on our food and in our soil, they're showing up in our drinking water in Wisconsin. And that leads to a big question -- what do they do to us? In this episode, Amy uncovers the truth about neonicotinoids with experts from Clean Wisconsin and the Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guests: Sara Walling, Water & Agriculture Program Director, Clean Wisconsin Carla Romano, Groundwater Specialist, Department od Agriculture Trade and Consumer Protection Background Reading: Understanding the Impact of Neonicotinoid Insecticides Agricultural Chemicals in Wisconsin Groundwater Report , Department of Agriculture Trade and Consumer Protection Neonitcotinoids and their impacts
Mon, September 16, 2024
A Case for Optimism: The energy transition we need, and what's standing in the way
What's it going to take to get Wisconsin to 100% clean energy? If you listen to the state's biggest power companies, it's more methane gas. Wisconsin is on the verge of an expensive gas construction boom if utilities like We Energies in Alliant Energy have their way. But what about wind and solar? Is it possible for Wisconsin to finally trade in fossil fuels for clean energy right now? Amy talks with energy expert Dr. Ciaran Gallagher. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Dr. Ciaran Gallagher, Energy Manager, Clean Wisconsin Background Reading: Under the Lens, the Truth About Natural Gas Stopping Gas Expansion in Wisconsn Power Wisconsin Forward: An affordable, reliable, fossil-free future
Sun, August 18, 2024
All the Money in the World: The cost of removing PFAS from our environment
New research reveals how much it would cost to remove toxic PFAS 'forever' chemicals from the environment at the same rate we're currently producing and using them. Spoiler alert: we don't have enough money in the world . Hear from the researcher behind the study who says it should inspire optimism not hopelessness in the face of our growing PFAS problem. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Ali Ling, PhD Background Reading: The Future of Persistent 'Forever" Chemicals Under the Lens: What we know about PFAS in Wisconsin's drinking water Toxic PFAS pollution devastates two Wisconsin Communities (video)
Mon, July 08, 2024
Supreme Court Power Grab
What keeps you safe -- when you drink water, take medicine, get on an airplane, or take out a loan? It’s often a government agency charged with implementing our health, safety and consumer protection laws. But recent rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court have cast a long shadow. Legal experts say the rulings point to a Court that is actively working to unravel longstanding protections and policies, not just for the environment but across the board, and the harm will be far reaching. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Evan Feinauer, Clean Wisconsin attorney Background Reading: Rulings from U.S. Supreme Court a disaster for the environment Clean Wisconsin takes legal action to protect communities from toxic mercury pollution New EPA power plant rules will save lives in Wisconsin Clean Wisconsin Legal Work
Sun, June 02, 2024
Who Are the Science Moms?
How do you get people to start paying attention to the urgency of climate change? Just like the name says, Science Moms is a growing non-partisan group of scientists and mothers who are spreading the word about our climate and joining forces to demand change from our leaders. Amy talks with UW Madison professor Dr. Tracey Holloway, who is a member of Science Moms. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Tracey Holloway, Professor of Environmental Studies & Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences at the University of Wisconsin, Madison; Science Mom Background Reading: Science Moms website Wisconsin Agriculture's Critical Role in Addressing Climate Change New Energy Study Shows Net-Zero Emissions Possible for Wisconsin by 2050 Federal Funds for Wisconsin : Take advantage of sweeping federal investments in clean energy and efficiency
Fri, May 10, 2024
Three Cheers for Climate Beer!
What if there was a grain that didn’t have to be replanted every year? One with deep roots that stay in the soil, trap carbon, prevent erosion, filter water. Kernza – the world’s first perennial grain crop – could be a game changer when it comes to sustainable food production and using our land to help fight climate change. But the big question: does is make a good beer? In this episode, Amy heads to Lakefront Brewery in Milwaukee to find out. Kernza® is the trademark name for the grain of an intermediate wheatgrass (Thinopyrum intermedium) being developed at The Land Institute in Kansas. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Russ Klisch, Owner & Co-Founder of Lakefront Brewery Background Reading: Climate-Smart Crops: Kernza Kerna Crunch: The Race to Develop the First Perennial Grain Crop (podcast) Impacts of Conventional Agriculture in Wisconsin The Land Institute: Kernza Grain
Sat, April 27, 2024
No Mow May: Does it work?
No Mow May is here, but does it really make a difference in the battle to save our bees and butterflies? Amy walks through a typical Wisconsin yard with pollinator expert Elizabeth Braatz. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Elizabeth Braatz, Bumble Bee Brigade Coordinator and Terrestrial Insect Ecologist, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Background Reading: Wisconsin Bumble Bee Brigade Saving Wisconsin's Native Pollinators Corn Ethanol vs. Solar: A Land Use Comparison
Fri, March 08, 2024
Truth About Natural Gas
When you think about the future of energy, do you picture you gas-fired power plants? In this episode, Amy looks at why power companies are racing to build new gas plants and what it means for the future of energy bills, our health and our climate. We Energies, the largest power company in Wisconsin, recently announced plans to transition two major power plants from coal to natural gas, build two more new gas-fired facilities, and build another new facility to hold liquefied gas. If you think it sounds like a major shift toward more fossil fuel development, you're right. We Energies’ parent company WEC Energy Group filed an application with the Public Service Commission to get special accounting treatment on the high-dollar projects before they’ve established a need for all that gas. Are gas-fired power plants the bridge to clean energy that power companies claim? Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guests: Dr. Paul Mathewson, Science Program Director, Clean Wisconsin Katie Nekola, Attorney, Clean Wisconsin Background reading: Under the Lens: The Truth About Natural Gas We Enegies Doubles Down on Gas
Tue, January 23, 2024
Last Line of Defense: Battle over Wisconsin Gas Plant intensifies
Wisconsin's Public Service Commission approved a large methane gas plant four years ago. The site: a bluff overlooking the Nemadji River near the Minnesota border in Superior. At the time, Superior's city council unanimously supported the project. But it didn't take long for opinions to change. In this episode, Amy talks with S uperior C ity Councilor Jenny V an Sickle who at first supported the plant and is now helping lead the charge to stop it. Find out what has changed -- and what YOU can do to help fight the plant. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Jenny Van Sickle , Bumble Bee Brigade Coordinator and Terrestrial Insect Ecologist, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Background Reading: Take Action Now: Call on federal officials to denty funding for the Nemadji Trail Energy Center <a title="Fighting the Nemadji Trail Energy Center gas plant" href= "https://www.cleanwisconsin.org/our-work/creating-a-clean-energy-future/fighting-fossil-fuel-infrastructure/nemad
Wed, December 20, 2023
A Toast to 1939
1939. It's the year researchers at the University of Wisconsin developed a hearty red corn that could tolerate Wisconsin winters and feed the state’s dairy cows. Before long, farms all over the state were sending trainloads of their ruby red corn to feed livestock across the country. But it didn’t last. The 1970s ushered in genetically modified corn with enormous yields and out went Wisconsin’s home grown red variety. Until now... In this episode, Amy heads to the home of J. Henry & Sons Bourbon in Dane County where Wisconsin’s old red feed corn is getting a brand new life – as the key ingredient in world class bourbon. A farm-to-glass experience that starts in the snowy fields of the Dairy State. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Joe Henry, J. Henry & Sons
Tue, November 14, 2023
Health Harms of 'Forever Chemicals'
It's no exaggeration to say PFAS 'forever chemicals' are everywhere. Some states have found PFAS tainting milk supplies and contaminating crops. What are the consequences of population-wide exposure to these toxic chemicals? Amy talks with Clean Wisconsin Science Program Director Dr. Paul Mathewson about the latest research. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest : Dr. Paul Mathewson, Science Program Director, Clean Wisconsin Background reading: Learn more about the latest PFAS health research in Clean Wisconsin's recent comment s to the Natural Resources Board on the impact of proposed groundwater standards Find out more about PFAS contamination in Wisconsin Read the latest PFAS Fish Consumption Advisories for Wisconsin View an interactive map of PFAS contamination sites in Wisconsin Like ‘State of Change?’ Subscribe! Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at www.cleanwisconsin.org Sign up to get the latest news from Clean Wisconsin in your inbox at www.cleanwisconsin.org/email Like State of Change? Help support our podcast and our work to protect Wisconsin’s environment at www.cleanwisconsin.org/donate
Thu, October 19, 2023
Uncovering Air Pollution
How do you know if the air you breathe is safe? It often depends on where you live--not just what town or city, but what neighborhood, what street. In this episode, Amy talks with Langston Verdin, founder of MKE Fresh Air Collective, a community-led air quality monitoring project in Milwaukee. Hear what he’s been finding out about the air we breathe and what it could mean for our health. One of the most dangerous kinds of pollution in terms of health outcomes is in the air. Fine particulate matter airpPollution is made up of tiny airborne particles that are 30 times smaller than the diameter of a human hair. They can settle deep in the lungs, even make their way into the bloodstream, and are associated with asthma attacks and higher risk of heart attacks, strokes and premature death. According to an analysis from Clean Wisconsin – Wisconsin has the 3 rd racial disparity in the country when it comes to exposure to these tiny particles. The particles come from burning fossil fuels, usually at coal and gas power plants, industrial facilities, or on busy roads with lots of cars, buses and heavy trucks. With all of those sources around, how do we know when the air is safe and when it’s not? It’s vital information that Langston Verdin, founder of MKE Fresh Air Collective, wants everybody to have. The collective has been working to install neighborhood air monitors across the city. Amy meets Langston at the site of his very first air monitor, at his old duplex in Washington Heights. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest : Langston Verdin, Founder, MKE Fresh Air Collective, Milwaukee, Wisconsin Background reading: Learn more about the MKE Fresh Air Collective Study shows Wisconsin has one of the largest racial disparities in the nation for exposure to dangerous air pollution particles New Analysis: Proposed EPA power plant rules would save Wisconsin millions in healthcare-related costs Like ‘State of Change?’ <div class= "et_pb_m
Wed, September 20, 2023
Wisconsin's Vanishing Bee
Endangered Rusty Patched Bumble Bee nest discovered in Milwaukee County Before the 1990s, they were everywhere in Wisconsin and beyond. Native Rusty Patched Bumblebees nested and foraged across 28 states and parts of Canada. Then the population hit a sudden, rapid decline. By 2017, the Rusty Patched Bumble Bee had become so scarce it was the first bee listed as a federally endangered species. In this episode, a walk deep into the Wisconsin woods for the rarest of discoveries: a nest of Rusty Patched Bumblebee queens. Amy looks at what it's going to take to bring our bees back and meet the dedicated experts and volunteers who are working hard to save our pollinators. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guests: Elizabeth Braatz , Bumble Bee Brigade Coordinator and Terrestrial Insect Ecologist, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Jay Watson , Terrestrial Insect Ecologist, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Halley Minser , Restoration Ecologist, Milwaukee County Parks Background Reading: Wisconsin Bumble Bee Brigade Saving Wisconsin's Native Pollinators Corn Ethanol vs. Solar: A Land Use Comparison Milwaukee County Parks: Conservation
Tue, September 05, 2023
Suppressing Solar? Alliant Energy, MG&E target home solar in rate plans
It feels like momentum is growing behind rooftop solar in Wisconsin. Federal tax incentives from the Inflation Reduction Act, Focus on Energy rebates, and falling prices could finally push us out of the bottom half of states when it comes to home solar. Except some utilities in Wisconsin appear to be pushing back. In this episode, a look plans from MG&E and Alliant Energy that could slow adoption of rooftop solar in Wisconsin. FInd out what you can do to protect solar in your community. Net metering. It doesn’t sound that exciting, but it’s actually one of the biggest incentives for families and small businesses to go solar. When your rooftop panels produce more energy than you can use, that energy goes into the grid, and your utility credits you for it. Now, MG&E and Alliant Energy are taking aim at that net metering incentive. Both are seeking approval from the Public Service Commission to drastically change the way they treat customers who install solar panels. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guests: Chelsea Chandler, Clean Wisconsin Climate, Energy & Air Program Director Ciaran Gallagher, Clean Wisconsin Energy & Air Manager Background Reading: Take Action: Tell the PSC to Protect Rooftop Solar Wisconsin's Roadmap to Net Zero by 2050 Three big things: Transitioning to Clean Energy in Wisconsin
Thu, August 24, 2023
Tainted Water: Dairy lobby sues Wisconsin over water protections
Beach closures, fish kills, green lakes. They are unfortunate signs of summer in Wisconsin. A big reason: untreated animal waste. Large dairies can produce as much waste as a small city. It's not only hard to deal with, it's dangerous if it gets into our water. Animal manure is one of the biggest sources of water pollution in Wisconsin. Now, some of Wisconsin's largest dairies are suing the state, trying to limit oversight of the way they handle animal waste. Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce quietly filed the lawsuit just before Memorial Day weekend on behalf of the Wisconsin Dairy Alliance, a lobbying group representing a number of large concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs). In this episode, Amy talks with Clean Wisconsin water and agriculture program director Sara Walling and attorney Evan Feinauer to find out what the lawsuit means for Wisconsin’s water resources and public health. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guests: Sara Walling, Clean Wisconsin Water & Agriculture Program Director Evan Feinauer, Clean Wisconsin Attorney Background Reading: Dangerous lawsuit puts water protections at risk Clean Wisconsin wins pair of landmark state Supreme Court cases
Sun, July 30, 2023
Farming the Sun: WI Farmers Find a Lifeline in Solar
It’s no secret, Wisconsin has been rapidly losing its small family farms, and with them, a way of life that’s defined much of our state for more than a century. But there is a lifeline coming. About 30 miles outside of Lake Geneva, Amy meets Jay Wendt to take a long walk on a farm that’s been in his wife’s family for decades. These days, the family is joining farmers across Wisconsin who are choosing to lease some of their land for solar. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Jay Wendt, farmer, Dean Kincaid, Inc. Background Reading: Analysis reveals solar farms produce 100 times more energy per acre than corn ethanol Wind and solar emerge as cheapest options for powering Wisconsin Wisconsin’s Roadmap to Net Zero by 2050
Mon, June 12, 2023
The Disinformation Game
Don’t believe everything you read on Facebook. Everybody knows that, but somehow misinformation still spreads like wildfire on social media, especially when it comes to climate change and clean energy like wind and solar. A sea of misinformation is getting in the way of badly-needed clean energy projects. Where are the false claims coming from, and why do people believe them? In this episode, what you can do to battle back – and recognize when disinformation is working on you. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Dr. Sedona Chinn, assistant professor of Life Sciences Communication at the University of Wisconsin-Madison Background Reading: Politicization and Polarization in Climate Change News Content, 1985-2017 Wind and solar emerge as cheapest options for powering Wisconsin Wisconsin's Roadmap to Net Zero by 2050
Wed, May 17, 2023
Confronting a Clean Energy Backlash
Some rural communities in Wisconsin are pushing back against wind & solar, but it doesn't have to be that way. Find out how you can help stop a clean energy backlash. To reach our climate goals, Wisconsin needs to build one major wind project and three to four large solar farms every year for the next few decades. But a wave of pushback could be coming. Some Wisconsin communities are working to pass ordinances making it harder to build those clean energy projects. It’s something happening across our region. In this episode we talk with Dr. Sarah Mills from the University of Michigan who’s been working in rural communities as they respond to the clean energy projects that are cropping up in their backyards. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Dr. Sarah Mills, University of Michigan senior project manager and lecturer Background Reading: Wisconsin's Roadmap to Net Zero by 2050 Analysis reveals solar farms produce 100 times more energy than ethanol Modeling shows Koshkonong solar farm will improve the health for nearby waterways
Fri, April 21, 2023
I’ll drink to that! New Glarus Brewing Captures its Carbon
On a hilltop in southern Wisconsin, a small brewery, long famous for its beer, is making headlines for a very different reason. Since last fall, New Glarus Brewing has been capturing more than 330 pounds of carbon dioxide (a bi-product of beer making) every hour of operation and reusing it. Join co-founder and master brewer Dan Carey for a tour. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Dan Carey, co-founder and master brewer, New Glarus Brewing Background Reading: New Glarus Brewing: Our Story Supporting Climate-Smart Agriculture Wisconsin's Roadmap to Net Zero by 2050
Mon, March 13, 2023
Solar vs Corn for Ethanol: Which land use produces the most energy?
We’re hearing it more and more: Solar farms in Wisconsin are taking away prime farmland used for food. But it turns out, a million acres of farmland in Wisconsin are already being used energy production by growing corn for ethanol. A quarter of all the corn grown in our state is processed into ethanol. Nationwide, it’s 45%. But which land use produces the most energy per acre, corn or solar? And how much land do we really need for solar in Wisconsin to end our reliance on coal and gas? Hear from Clean Wisconsin Science Program Director Paul Mathewson, Ph.D., about his latest analysis that’s been getting a lot of attention. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Dr. Paul Mathewson, Science Program Director, Clean Wisconsin Background Reading: Corn Ethanol vs. Solar: A Land Use Comparison Wisconsin's Roadmap to Net Zero report Modeling shows Koshkonong Solar Energy Center will improve the health of nearby waterways Clean Wisconsin Science Program page Like “State of Change”? Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. Help support our podcast and our work to protect Wisconsin’s environment at www.cleanwisconsin.org/donate
Mon, January 23, 2023
Crisis of Contamination: Toxic PFAS in our Great Lakes
Six years ago, families in Marinette and Peshtigo, Wis., got the news that would change everything, for them, and eventually the whole state. PFAS from firefighting foam produced for years at nearby Tyco Fire Products had infiltrated groundwater, creeks, streams and drinking water wells across the area. Now University of Wisconsin-Madison researchers say they’ve linked contamination in Lake Michigan's Green Bay to Tyco. But it’s an issue that goes far beyond Green Bay. PFAS have been found in water bodies and drinking water sources across the state, including Eau Claire, La Crosse, Madison, Rhinelander, Marshfield, Manitowoc and Wausau, often near airports and airbases where training with firefighting foam has gone on for decades. While two types of PFAS chemicals called PFOA and PFOS have been phased out in the U.S. and will soon be regulated in drinking water by the EPA, there are thousands more, many of which are still widely used in all kinds of consumer products. Hear what needs to happen next to get a handle on growing PFAS contamination across Wisconsin and the world. Guests: Dr. Christy Remucal , associate professor of civil and environmental engineering at UW-Madison. Dr. Paul Mathewson , Science Program Director, Clean Wisconsin Host: Amy Barrilleaux Background Reading Find out more about PFAS contamination in Wisconsin Read the latest PFAS Fish Consumption Advisories for Wisconsin View an interactive map of PFAS contamination sites in Wisconsin Like “State of Change”? Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , <a href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/1XtxTJLGF1XeHxUIg4jwwU?si=It_7P6b6QLW1UgiEKtJXFg" target="_blank" rel="noo
Wed, October 26, 2022
Power to the People
What does the We Energies rate case tell us about how Wisconsin energy companies make money? Spoiler Alert: It’s not by promoting energy efficiency. We Energies customers across Wisconsin are bracing for higher bills. The company is asking the Public Service Commission to approve a large rate hike, insisting its investment in new solar and wind infrastructure is driving the increase. But We Energies customers are still paying off a $2 billion construction price tag for the company’s Oak Creek coal plant completed in 2011, and they’ll keep paying long after it’s shut down in two years. The Oak Creek coal plant may be a burden for customers, but it was a windfall for We Energies’ shareholders. Experts say that points to a big problem with the way energy utilities in Wisconsin make money. Hear from Clean Wisconsin attorney Katie Nekola about what has to change – and find out and what other states are doing to bring power to the people in the face of rising bills. Find out more about Clean Wisconsin's legal work at the Public Service Commission here: https://www.cleanwisconsin.org/our-work/legal-action/ Episode Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Katie Nekola, General Counsel, Clean Wisconsin
Wed, August 31, 2022
Kernza Crunch: The race to develop the world’s first perennial grain crop
How often do we think about the food we eat and its impact on climate? A new food product called Kernza® perennial grain is part of a major effort to fight climate change by changing what we plant and eat. But can Kernza really find a place on dinner tables – and in cereal bowls –across Wisconsin? In this episode, we sit down to taste a few samples and learn why changing farming systems is key to helping our climate. Kernza® is the perennial grain crop from an improved intermediate wheatgrass developed by The Land Institute in Kansas. Research partners in the US, including Wisconsin and Minnesota, and abroad continue to improve the grain. Thank you to our guests: Nicole Tautges, agro-ecologist with the Michael Field Institute; Valentin Picasso, associate professor of agronomy at the University of Wisconsin-Madison; and Scott Laeser, Clean Wisconsin Water Program Director Host: Amy Barrilleaux, Clean Wisconsin Background Reading: Agriculture is responsible for 15% of Wisconsin’s total greenhouse gas emissions, and that contribution is growing. Find out how natural climate solutions like perennial agriculture can help – and why they’re urgently needed in Wisconsin: cleanwisconsin.org/natural-climate-solutions Like “State of Change”? Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at www.cleanwisconsin.org.
Thu, February 03, 2022
Communicating climate change
Despite science proving the climate crisis is real, many people are reluctant to take action against it, or even care! In this episode, we break down why that is and how the words we use to talk about climate change and who those words are coming from can influence the way we think about it. We first sit down with Ph.D. student Mikhaila Calice from the Department of Life Sciences Communication at UW-Madison who is researching why some people react differently to the phrase climate change, how our political climate has influenced the way we think about it and what we all can do to bring more people into the fight to protect our future . Later in the episode, we hear from Dr. Andrew Lewandowski, a pediatrician in Madison, who has started communicat ing climate change to his patients and measuring its effectiveness. </s
Fri, October 08, 2021
The importance of wetlands
When you think about Wisconsin’s great outdoors, you might picture our lakes and rivers, our hiking trails that lead to breathtaking bluffs and waterfalls, but you might not think about our wetlands. Even though they cover more than five-million acres of our state, wetlands don’t always top the list of Wisconsin’s most beloved outdoor spaces. But maybe they should, especially considering we’ve lost more than half of our wetlands in just the last century or so. In this episode, come along with us as we walk through a wetland in south-central Wisconsin with Katie Beilfuss of the Wisconsin Wetland Association to learn about these special places and why people are fighting to keep them protected and preserved.
Wed, August 25, 2021
Extreme heat in urban Milwaukee
Climate change is making summers hotter, leaving people without air conditioning in Milwaukee and other cities vulnerable to its dangerous health impacts. Low-income communities and communities of color are often more likely to experience the harsh impacts of severe heat brought by climate change. In this episode, we travel to the Century City Triangle Neighborhood in Milwaukee where over half of residents do not have air conditioning. We break down the dangers of Milwaukee’s urban heat island effect, why some communities feel the impacts of heat more than others, and what can be done to protect people going forward. Hear from Yvonne McCaskill from the Century City Triangle Neighborhood Association, Clean Wisconsin Milwaukee Program Director Pam Ritger, and Caitlin Rublee from Wisconsin Health Professionals for Climate Action .
Fri, July 23, 2021
Picking up the slack, a fight for clean water
Joe and Kathy Weitekamp have lived in the same home for nearly 40 years in the Town of Campbell, but they are just now learning of PFAS contamination in their private well. And they are not alone. Recently, La Crosse area residents are discovering PFAS in their drinking water, many over the state's recommended limit of 20 parts per trillion, from firefighting foam used by the city's fire department. In this episode, we hear how residents are stepping up to advocate for clean water as local governments are slow to take action and how one piece of legislation moving through the state legislature could help not only clean-up current PFAS contamination, but help prevent more in the future.
Thu, July 08, 2021
Ruling in favor: Clean Wisconsin wins cases against DNR
After years of court battles, the Wisconsin Supreme Court handed environmental advocates in the state a pair of victories today. The Court ruled in two separate cases, each named Clean Wisconsin v. Department of Natural Resources (DNR), that the DNR must exercise its authority to protect Wisconsin’s water resources. In this episode, Clean Wisconsin staff attorney Evan Feinauer breaks down the ruling in each case and what it means for water protections going forward.
S14 Enull · Tue, June 01, 2021
Twists and Turns: State Supreme Court hears two Clean Wisconsin cases
In April, two cases brought by Clean Wisconsin to protect the state's water resources were heard by the Wisconsin State Supreme Court. Though these cases are centered around permits issued by the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, the implications of the rulings go far beyond the paperwork. In this episode, Clean Wisconsin’s staff attorney Evan Feinauer briefs us on the details of these cases, breaks down our arguments and explains what the future rulings could mean for water protections in the state. Background Reading: Read more from our staff attorney on the two cases recently heard by the State Supreme Court. Sign-up for Clean Wisconsin’s Action Network . We’ll send you regular updates with opportunities to contact your legislators to protect our air, water and natural heritage. Like ‘State of Change?’ Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at www.cleanwisconsin.org Sign up to get the latest news from Clean Wisconsin in your inbox at www.cleanwisconsin.org/email Like State of Change? Help support our podcast and our work to protect Wisconsin’s environment at www.cleanwisconsin.org/donate
Thu, May 06, 2021
What happens now? An update on the state budget
On Thursday, leaders of the budget-writing Joint Finance Committee voted to scrap nearly 400 items in Governor Evers' state budget, including many important water and climate change initiatives. In this episode, Clean Wisconsin's President & CEO Mark Redsten breaks down what environmental protections were scrapped from the $91 billion dollar proposed budget, the message sent from Republican legislators and the future of these crucial clean water and clean energy initiatives. Background Reading: Take action : tell the Joint Finance Committee and your elected officials to restore Governor Evers' clean water, clean energy and climate change budget items! Sign-up for Clean Wisconsin's Action Network . We’ll send you regular updates with opportunities to contact your legislators to protect our air, water and natural heritage. Like 'State of Change?' Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at www.cleanwisconsin.org Sign up to get the latest news from Clean Wisconsin in your inbox at <a h
Wed, May 05, 2021
Electrifying transportation in Wisconsin
Through electrifying our cars, trucks, buses and other modes of transportation, we can cut carbon emissions and curb climate change in Wisconsin. While carbon emissions from electricity have gone down, carbon emissions from transportation have increased over the last decade and is now the leading contributor of carbon emissions in the United States. In this episode, we drive around with Clean Wisconsin's Jon Drewsen, an EV owner himself, to talk about the pros and cons of driving an electric vehicle and why it is crucial the state legislature invest in the transition to clean transportation in Wisconsin. We later talk with Kathy Kuntz from Dane County's Office of Energy and Climate Change about the county's accomplishment of having the most EVs on the road in the state and what needs to happen in Wisconsin to help increase the demand of electric vehicles. We also speak with Ned Noel, a senior planner with the City of Eau Claire, to learn about the importance of investing in EV infrastructure now so municipalities and the state can be ready for the future. Background Reading: Learn about the work Clean Wisconsin is doing to help advocate for investments in clean transportation and support statewide electric vehicle infrastructure here . Read more from Clean Wisconsin's Scott Blankman on why electric vehicles must be the future of travel in Wisconsin. Read the City of Eau Claire's Electric Vehicle Roadmap . Like 'State of Change?'
Thu, April 01, 2021
Beer, wool socks and energy efficiency
Energy efficiency may not be as flashy as electric vehicles or solar panels, but it is an important step that all Wisconsinites can take to save energy and save money. In this episode, Clean Wisconsin's Climate Solutions Director Chelsea Chandler explains how residents and business owners have a great tool in their tool box when it comes to being more energy efficient, and that is the statewide program Focus on Energy. It is a program that provides Wisconsin state residents and businesses with resources, incentives and support to implement energy-efficiency and renewable energy projects. Later in the show, we talk with Isaac Showaki, the president of Octopi Brewing in Waunakee, Wisconsin, about how using Focus on Energy has helped make his business more energy efficient and saved him money in the long run. Background Reading: Tell your state legislators and the budget-writing Joint Finance Committee: Support increasing our investment in Focus on Energy in the budget here . Learn all about the Focus on Energy program and its benefits for all Wisconsinites! Read how Clean Wisconsin is working toward a clean energy future here . Clean Wisconsin's Climate Change Mini-Report includes different recommendations that can help move Wisconsin forward on addressing climate change while building healthy communities and a healthy economy for all. Like "State of Change?"
Mon, March 22, 2021
The toxic reality of PAH
It's that time of the year when the days get warmer and Wisconsinites start their spring cleaning. For some, that means re-sealing their driveways, but certain pavement sealants can be harmful to both the environment and public health due to having high levels of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAH. In this episode, we sit down with Clean Wisconsin's water resource specialist Ezra Meyer and staff scientist Paul Mathewson to explain what PAHs are and how certain pavement sealants are toxic to the landscape and the health of Wisconsinites. We also talk with the former mayor of Port Washington to discuss what the town did to help curb PAH exposure and what the state government can do, as well. Background Reading Clean Wisconsin is a leading voice to end the use of high-PAH pavement sealants around the state. Read more on how they impact residents and the environment here. Read more from Paul Mathewson how high-PAH pavement sealants affect public health . Tip when looking for alternatives to high-PAH pavement sealants: Tar can have a lot of different names, and some other byproducts can have very high levels of PAHs. To be safe, check the “Material Safety Data Sheet” of the product (try searching online) and avoid anything including CAS #’s 64742-90-1, 65996-92-1, 65996-93-2, 65996-89-6, 69013-21-4, or 8007-45-2. Like our podcast? Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at www.cleanwisconsin.org<
Fri, March 05, 2021
What's in the state budget?
On February 16th, Gov. Tony Evers outlined his $91 billion dollar 2021-2023 biennial budget. Despite the many challenges our state is facing right now with the COVID-19 pandemic, impacts from climate change and many residents struggling without clean drinking water, the governor's budget includes strong clean energy and clean water initiatives. We sit down with Clean Wisconsin’s Director of Government Relations Carly Michiels to break down what exactly is in the governor’s budget, what happens next with the Joint Finance Committee and the future of the governor's environmental priorities. Background reading: Read Carly's latest blog post that goes into greater detail about the governor's environmental priorities in the budget. Take a look at our press statement we released following the budget announcement. Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at www.cleanwisconsin.org Sign up to get the latest news from Clean Wisconsin in your inbox at www.cleanwisconsin.org/email Like State of Change? Help support our podcast and our work to protect Wisconsin’s environment at www.cleanwisconsin.org/donate
Fri, February 12, 2021
What does the Biden administration mean for climate action in Wisconsin?
With the recent election of President Joe Biden, there is a new focus on strengthening environmental protections and building the momentum to take action on climate change at the federal level. We’re also seeing leadership and opportunities for climate action in Wisconsin. In today’s episode, we sit down with Clean Wisconsin’s Climate Solutions Director Chelsea Chandler to dive into how climate has become a winning political issue, the new momentum for climate action in various levels of government and what it all means in terms of opportunities to advance climate solutions in Wisconsin. Background Reading: Read the Biden-Harris administration's statement on the executive orders signed in the first days of Joe Biden's presidency to tackle climate change. Learn more about Clean Wisconsin's recommendations on what we can do now to tackle climate change in our policy team's mini-report "Strategies for Climate Action in Wisconsin." Read the full report from the Governor's Task Force on Climate Change to learn more about their policy recommendations. Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at
Sat, February 06, 2021
The vicious cycle of nitrate contamination
Imagine turning on your faucet to get a glass of water or to fill up a pot for dinner but that water is contaminated with dangerously high levels of nitrates. That's the reality for hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites who use groundwater as their drinking water source through private wells or public water systems, limiting their access to clean drinking water and putting their health at risk. In this episode, we sit down with Clean Wisconsin's water program director Scott Laeser to learn where the nitrate contamination is coming from, who is most at risk and why the solutions are so complex. Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. You can learn more about Clean Wisconsin and our work at www.cleanwisconsin.org Sign up to get the latest news from Clean Wisconsin in your inbox at www.cleanwisconsin.org/email Like State of Change? Help support our podcast and our work to protect Wisconsin’s environment at www.cleanwisconsin.org/donate
Fri, December 18, 2020
Looking back, looking forward
2020 has been a challenging year as the coronavirus pandemic continues to surge across Wisconsin and the rest of the country. Despite having to transition working from home during these difficult times, Clean Wisconsin has been able to continue its work to protect our environment and public health. In this episode, we speak with Clean Wisconsin President and CEO Mark Redsten about the organization’s big accomplishments in the past year, as well as priorities for 2021. We also sit down with Clean Wisconsin’s new content manager and producer of State of Change Molly Dove to talk about the exciting episodes planned for the podcast starting in January. Background reading: Summaries of Clean Wisconsin’s priorities centered around clean air , clean water , clean energy and climate change Clean Wisconsin’s staff scientist Paul Matthewson’s research on health and economic impacts of nitrate pollution in Wisconsin Gov. Evers’ Task Force on Climate Change recommendations for legislative action and policies Subscribe to State of Change on Apple Podcasts , Google Play Music , Spotify , or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to rate our show and give us a review. It helps other people find us. <!-
Mon, October 05, 2020
A very modest rule, delayed
The ongoing crisis of PFAS pollution in Wisconsin drinking water centers around one primary source: firefighting foams. While some are trying to take aim at tackling this major threat to public health, others are standing in the way. In this episode of the podcast, we talk with our policy expert, Carly Michiels, about industry efforts to upend emergency rules for 'forever chemical' pollution, and what it could mean for drinking water in public health around the state. Background: In Episode 2 , we talk more in-depth with Carly about PFAS pollution in Marinette, which has been the epicenter of 'forever chemical' pollution in Wisconsin. According to the DNR, roughly 2 out of every 3 fire departments have PFAS-laden firefighting foams, while 62% of fire departments don't have any policy about how to handle or dispose of the products. Take Action: Tell the Natural Resources Board to put public health over profit and pass these emergency rules at their October Board meeting.
Thu, August 20, 2020
When the waters came
Two years ago, the small village of Mazomanie, in Dane County's northwestern corner, saw the small creek that runs through the center of their town grow into a raging river as record rains fell in an unprecedented storm. After it was all over, the region saw more rain in a 24 hour period than has ever fallen in Wisconsin before, costing small communities like Mazomanie homes, businesses, and millions of dollars in damage. The science community has long pointed to climate change as a major reason for an increased heavy rain events leading to more flooding. But local communities like Dane County--and now state officials--are taking action to limit the impacts of climate change, as well as tackle the root cause: carbon emissions. In this episode of State of Change, we talk with the Mazomanie Village Administrator about his experience with the 2018 flooding that rocked his community. We also talk with Dane County Executive Joe Parisi about Dane County's leadership in local action on climate change, and we chat with Chelsea Chandler, our new Climate Solutions Director, about efforts at the state level through the Governor's Task Force on Climate Change. Background reading: --A post on our blog on Dane County's Climate Action Plan that was released earlier this year. --Our science team created this local climate action map . --They also looked at whether we're seeing more heavy rain events in Wisconsin. --A post on our blog in the aftermath of Dane County's record rainfall and devastating flooding --Great <a href= "https://madison.com/wsj/weather/photos-see-the-aftermath-of-severe-floo
Fri, April 17, 2020
Protecting our H.O.M.E.S.
In March 2020, a group of Wisconsin residents traveled to Washington, D.C., to advocate lawmakers in Congress to support funding and protections for our Great Lakes. These Wisconsin residents come from many different backgrounds and communities along Lakes Michigan and Superior, but one thing connected them all: water, and the aim to protect it from the threats brought by invasive species, pollution and climate change. In this episode of the podcast, we head to nation’s capital to meet up with three of these advocates and learn that human connection may be our best hope of protecting our Great Lakes. Background reading: You can read more about the Great Lakes Restoration Initiative and how it helps Wisconsin’s Great Lakes communities at the DNR’s website . In January, the DNR and EPA announced they are spending over $29 million over the next 8 years to address polluted sediment in the Milwaukee Estuary Area of Concern. The goal is accelerate the cleanup of the estuary and to delist it as an Area of Concern. Take Action: Tell members of Congress to support funding for clean water and public health in COVID-19 response legislation. A special thanks to Brenda Coley and Joe Fitzgerald at Milwaukee Water Commons. Learn more about the Healing Our Waters—Great Lakes Coalition .
Tue, March 10, 2020
Not a drop to drink
Marinette is defined by water. From industry like shipbuilding to its location where the Menominee River empties into the Bay of Green Bay, water is at the center of life there. But it's also been the Wisconsin community at the center of a drinking water pollution crisis from a class of chemicals called PFAS, which has been linked to serious health issues including cancer. Residents in the area have struggled to get access to clean drinking water after it was found that the chemical had been leaching into private wells from a nearby firefighting training facility. Despite this crisis being a top issue for lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, the State Assembly failed to pass meaningful legislation that had bi-partisan support before adjourning for the year. We talk with Oliver Redsten about how this issue is impacting the residents of Marinette. We also catch up with Carly Michiels, our government relations director, about how the Assembly failed to pass bold legislation to address this crisis, and what it could mean as more communities around the state discover PFAS pollution in their drinking water. Background reading: Read Oliver’s story about his journey to Marinette to understand the PFAS issue that has impacted many residents in the area. Read up on the CLEAR Act and why we called on lawmakers to support this legislation. Here’s an explainer on PFAS pollution and how it’s impacted communities around the state. You can also send a message to the State Senate to tell them to veto the Assembly’s failed attempt at addressing PFAS pollution. Special thanks to Chuck and Cindy Boyle of S.O.H2O ; Ruth and John Kowalski of Marinette; Darsi Foss of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources; and Carly Michiels of Clean Wisconsin. … <!-- wp:par
Mon, February 24, 2020
Nemadji
Superior, Wisconsin, was once home to booming industries, which have all but disappeared. But recently, a new opportunity for economic development came knocking: a 625 megawatt gas-fired power plant on the banks of the Nemadji River, which feeds into Lake Superior. While for some this sounds promising, for others in Superior and nearby communities, there are serious concerns: not only would the plant contribute billions of tons of carbon emissions over its lifetime, contributing to climate change, but it would also require destroying wetlands along the river, the very wetlands that help to reduce the flooding that have ravaged this community in recent years from heavy rain events. Plus, the plant would require more water each day than the entire City of Superior uses per day, threatening to put a strain on the groundwater many people rely on. In this episode, we go to the banks of the Nemadji River in Superior to talk with local residents and learn about what this gas plant could mean for the area if it is built. Learn more about this proposed project and sign up for updates about ways you can help block this plant at www.cleanwisconsin.org/stop-nemadji Background reading: We bust the myth that gas plants help support renewable energy , as the utilities behind this proposed plant have argued. We don’t get into it in the episode, but a big reason why we don’t need gas plants is because of the rise of energy storage solutions. We unpack how batteries will play a role in Wisconsin’s energy future. Katie Nekola mentions that the lifespan of this plant conflicts with Gov. Evers’ goal to have Wisconsin carbon-free by 2050, which he announced in August 2019. We delve into the governor’s goal and why it matters. You can watch our video on this issue, which features many of the people you heard in the episode. Special thanks to Dr. Jonathan Patz of the Global H
Trailer · Mon, January 27, 2020
Trailer: This is the Defender
Wisconsin's environment is changing faster and more dramatically than anyone expected. But there's another kind of change happening, too. Around the state, there's a growing movement to try and stop the dangerous trends before it's too late. From Clean Wisconsin, this is State of Change, a podcast telling the stories of Wisconsin's rapidly changing environment and the people who are trying to do something about it.
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