Dave and Chris briefly talk with producer Isaac Lee about K-pop’s rise as an international phenomenon (0:00) before Dave’s interview with global superstar musician CL (18:30) about her complex identity shaping her unique artistry as well as, of course, Korean food. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

The Dave Chang Show

CL on Representing Korean Culture and Breaking the Mold

Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.