Sheryl Lee Ralph won an Emmy for her work on Abbott Elementary as Barbara Howard, a firm yet big-hearted veteran teacher. It was recognition she’d long deserved in a career that’s spanned USO tours, roles alongside Sidney Poitier and Robert De Niro, and an iconic performance in the original Dreamgirls musical. In a live conversation from this year’s Vulture Festival, Sam asks Sheryl about the lessons she’s still learning — and teaching — and the wisdom she’s gained along the way.

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