Can we get there by incremental steps or should we go the whole hog?The Great debate from Sustainable Living FestivalAs climate change poses an existential threat, Cam Walker (Friends of the Earth) argues we need to engage everyone. People start with the incremental steps building community consensus then go the whole hog of shutting down coal fired power and installing bold new solar power with storage. The people at Port Augusta in S.A are shining the way and Cam describes how communities move mountains.Craig Wilkins from Conservation Council of South Australia, tells how renewable ownership radicalises people. BZE's Miwa Tominaga reveals how volunteers work together on no compromise plans that become the norm in no time. Cassy O'Connor and Senator Janet Rice explain how the race to get 100% renewables is being fought in parliament.MC: Miriam Lyons - GetUp!’s Senior CampaignerGuests:Cassy O’Connor - former Tasmanian Minister for Climate ChangeCraig Wilkins - Chief Executive, Conservation SAMiwa Tominaga - Beyond Zero Emissions Janet Rice - Federal Senator for Victoria Cam Walker - Friends of the Earth National Campaigns Coordinator