Ah truly Bret Engemann is one of the good guys.  He was the charming and handsome guy at Timpview High School.  Athletics ran in his blood.  After graduating from high school, Bret went on to play football at BYU and also the Raiders.  But as we started diving deep into this podcast, I discovered a lot of things about my old friend.  For one, life threw him many, many curve balls.  Things did not go according to plan.  Bret had to step into the dark many times in his life.  And through it all, he learned and grew even more.  He learned the importance of being nice to EVERYONE.  He also learned that it's way more important to find joy in the process rather than the outcome.  We talked about the illusion of control and how our unpredictable future has led to understanding what is really the most important thing in his life.  We also talked about his short lived career on the Bachelorette and how that led to him being married to his wife.  These things could never be written in a script.  Too unbelievable.  And yet, it's all true.  Great catching up with my buddy.  Enjoy!

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